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Tezzz said:
The Chelsea players should try and pass to him every now and then. Watching him play is actually heart breaking, the chelsea midfield will see him making a run, stare at him for 5 seconds, and then look away. You need a player who can actually put him through on goal or even create a half-chance for him to bury.
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This.
 
Sorry to drag this up again but going back to the Lampard penalty vs Southampton and the slating he got on here i thought i'd clear it up. After an interview with CTV Lampard was asked whether Ba had a chance of taking it and scoring his hat-trick and Lampard thought his first went down as an own goal. Ba was also asked about it and he said there was no way he would take it away from him. Case closed.
 
Tezzz said:
The Chelsea players should try and pass to him every now and then. Watching him play is actually heart breaking, the chelsea midfield will see him making a run, stare at him for 5 seconds, and then look away. You need a player who can actually put him through on goal or even create a half-chance for him to bury.
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Seriously lol. A side which has Mata with 16 and Hazard 13 assists this season are the problem apparently lol.
 
I think Torres doesnt carry any hunger or belief anymore..sure he makes runs but only half-hearted ones, an when in a scoring position tends to take that extra touch which tends show a striker out-of-form. Lost his pace an arrogance since his liverpool days, lost his aggression so EPL is no longer suited to him!
£50m...was a punt that has back-fired!
IMO Chelsea have signed a player in Ba...been ace for Newcastle since we signed him, shown arrogance and confidence an could be an ideal replacement for Drogba!
As for your manager situation...Abramovich is king, an wants everyone to see that..all to often! Pressure from day one, to the day youre sacked. Why he sacked Robbie is beyond me..as is why he appointed spanish git who still struggles with basic english lol
 
barakus said:
I think Torres doesnt carry any hunger or belief anymore..sure he makes runs but only half-hearted ones, an when in a scoring position tends to take that extra touch which tends show a striker out-of-form. Lost his pace an arrogance since his liverpool days, lost his aggression so EPL is no longer suited to him!
£50m...was a punt that has back-fired!
IMO Chelsea have signed a player in Ba...been ace for Newcastle since we signed him, shown arrogance and confidence an could be an ideal replacement for Drogba!
As for your manager situation...Abramovich is king, an wants everyone to see that..all to often! Pressure from day one, to the day youre sacked. Why he sacked Robbie is beyond me..as is why he appointed spanish git who still struggles with basic english lol
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I hate the fact Rafa pronounces the word "club" like "kloob". Reallt grates on me lol.
 
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CJACKO11 said:
Seriously lol. A side which has Mata with 16 and Hazard 13 assists this season are the problem apparently lol.
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Nope, Ive said that they have the quality but its more like the decisions at times they make. As Ive said, I have witnessed where a Mata pass could have released Torres for a chance, but it hasnt happened. What I want to see is that the pass actually happens at those times. And now no, Im not saying they never pass to him, cos they do. But what I can think of now out of my mind is that most of the time when he gets a pass where he has to run into the ball, he makes something out of it other than a wild guess far off the mark.
 
You never know. If a certain Everton manager decides not to renew his contract by the summer..........
 
Nick Chelsea said:
Any comparison between the two is just insulting to Drogba, and we can't have that.
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The stats don't lie. Torres's scoring this season is better/similar than Drogba had in 6 out of 8 season, so how is one club legend and the other "pure and utter ****" and gets booed when subbed?

Oh i have an idea, perhaps he's being scapegoated beyond ridicule. Goalkeeper fuckup? Well Torres could have scored. Defender fuckup? Well Torres could have scored. Famine in Africa? Well Torres could have donated some money, after all he makes 150k/w, rich pig.

Nobody is denying he could play better, but he's not nearly as bad as you're claiming.
 
Tyton said:
The stats don't lie. Torres's scoring this season is better/similar than Drogba had in 6 out of 8 season, so how is one club legend and the other "pure and utter ****" and gets booed when subbed?

Oh i have an idea, perhaps he's being scapegoated beyond ridicule. Goalkeeper fuckup? Well Torres could have scored. Defender fuckup? Well Torres could have scored. Famine in Africa? Well Torres could have donated some money, after all he makes 150k/w, rich pig.

Nobody is denying he could play better, but he's not nearly as bad as you're claiming.
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Maybe because his performances in some games are costing us points. Maybe because his lack of movement is costing us chances. Maybe because he was threatening to leave last season if he was not given the the role of first-choice striker and has failed miserably. Maybe because his monumental ****-ups in front of goal have cost us trophies already this season. Maybe because he is wildly inconsistent.

Is he being scapegoated? Yes to a certain extent he is but thats because fans know that if we had a better striker we would be winning a lot more games than we are now. See RVP for Manchester United. Is the criticism of his performances undeserved? Definitely not.

Its not his fault. Its the clubs for putting too much faith in him.
 
Also stop blaming Rafa. Its not his fault Ivanovic decides to **** up and gift Swansea two goals or the fact that he had to play with 10 men for 80 minutes.
 
ajt09 said:
You never know. If a certain Everton manager decides not to renew his contract by the summer..........
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Oh man... I've said in the past that I really love him, hence why I don't want him to come. He is for the long-term and we can't offer him that. Unfortunately. Hopefully he won't take over at United, because thats another 25 years of consistent mightiness.

But yeah, if those mugs upstairs had a clue about football, Chelsea FC would be something completely different.
 
Alcaraz said:
Maybe because his performances in some games are costing us points. Maybe because his lack of movement is costing us chances. Maybe because he was threatening to leave last season if he was not given the the role of first-choice striker and has failed miserably. Maybe because his monumental ****-ups in front of goal have cost us trophies already this season. Maybe because he is wildly inconsistent.

Is he being scapegoated? Yes to a certain extent he is but thats because fans know that if we had a better striker we would be winning a lot more games than we are now. See RVP for Manchester United. Is the criticism of his performances undeserved? Definitely not.
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Well everyone has bad games and good games. If you get one major chance for a striker in 90 mins which aint a goal, its not good enough for a striker. Just look at how many shots other strikers in the league are having? Of course the striker needs to show the lethal touch by only needing that one chance, but it cant workout everytime.

His lack of movement is costing chances. Yes well as Ive said, he is at times in the right channels and when he is there, he doesnt get the ball. But you got Hazard, Mata, Oscar and stuff. Chip in behind the backline the ball and see whether Torres gets it. As I said, find him from behind 10 guys if need be. Put the ball by chip, cross, low pass or anything behind the line or somewhere where he is lurking. Then see what happens, if it aint starting to be beneficial, then Ill admit he aint willing to move anymore.

Yes he demanded a first-choice striker role, but I think he said during the interview that he was promised something which he didnt actually get during that season (probably more playing time I presume). He just doesnt want to sit on the bench as no footballer do. Understandable aint it but yes, I bet someone is gona bring up that he aint in the position to demand such things considering his performances. According to Goal.com he has scored 15 goals this season in total, it aint that bad haul for a guy whose been having difficulties ever since his move to the club and the season aint over yet.

Monumental ****-ups in front of goal, a striker needs more than one awesome chance at goal. Mistakes do happen and players do miss chances, but since he usually has that one chance at goal, he aint grabbing it always and then he gets the blame. Yes, as I pointed out, striker needs to have that lethal touch at times (needing only that one chance). Just out of curiosity I checked Torres, RVP, Suarez and Tevez statistics by googling and found that in Premier League, RVP has 74 shots in 21 games whereas Torres has 47 shots in 20 games. Tevez had 19 games and 60 shots and Suarez racking up the most in 20 games and 123 shots! Suarez gets about 6,51 shots per game and has scored 15 goals only. RVP has 3,52 shots and 16 goals, Tevez 3,16 and 7 goals. For me, this says that Torres aint found in the areas where he could have a chance to score. Now this is again tied to his lack of movement as some say, but I already said what I thought about it. Yes, inconsistency comes cos he aint having the shots and chances. I got the stats from ESPN FC and I believe its reliable, since goal.com had the same amount of goals in PL as ESPN FC.

Well RVP is immense class, no doubt about it but hes having more shots, which means he is found in the areas where he can have a pop. I mean, they have Carrick.

Im sorry if my mathematical calculations are incorrect, but they shouldnt be.
 
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Nick Chelsea said:
Unlikely though. Roman wants the other guy.
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The other guy won't come and he needs to realise that!

ajt09 said:
You never know. If a certain Everton manager decides not to renew his contract by the summer..........
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Roman doesn't deserve someone like Moyes. He would pick him up, chew him up and spit him out within 6 months and Moyes is better than that.

Alcaraz said:
Also stop blaming Rafa. Its not his fault Ivanovic decides to **** up and gift Swansea two goals or the fact that he had to play with 10 men for 80 minutes.
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He did have to play with 10 men but my criticism was more with the timing of subs which he continues to do!
 
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