The Chelsea Thread

[JDY]

Ramieres' FM attributes scream attacking full back, but in real life, do you really want a man who is capable of doing what he did against Barca restricted to the back 4? It's akin to when Essien used to get plonked in at right back.

Indeed, I was just suggesting it as another option. Bear in mind what Ramires did against Barca (2nd leg) was when he was playing at right back. If we stick to the 4-2-3-1 and we don't sign Hulk, playing him on the right would be a no brainer.

Luiz has played there once or twice. Was really good in one and woeful in the other.

Edit: For the last time, Hazard said his dream role is no.10, not that he must play there. Everyone has there preferred position, they don't always play there.

 

[zzeezzy]

Wanted to play there. At the end of the day, playing every game LW > Playing less games at #10.

Yes true, but at United the only real competition is Young on the left hand side, at Chelsea Marin will be competing for that spot so it is about even in that respect, I think gametime wise United could of offered him just as much.

 

[Mike.]

I kind of disagree with you, I think he would get plenty of gametime regardless of if we signed Kagawa or not, at Chelsea he will HAVE to play out wide unless Mata is on the left, but Hazard is better on the left than Mata is. At United he would of been able to play that no.10 position providing Kagawa did not sign for us, even if he did, Kagawa can play anywhere and it is not like Young is better than him on the left hand side.

To be honest though I think United pulled out a while ago, because he did say he wanted to play for United a while back and they probably hated all the hastle he was causing and not to mention the agent fee's.

Edit: As it is not confirmed though, we still don't know what is happening 100%.

Kagawa is predominantly an AMC, it's Hazard who plays across the band. Hazard would hve mostly started on the left with Kagawa/Rooney through the middle. Even without Kagawa, still second to Rooney in the hole. And we rotate a lot, he has less competition at Chelsea, and they tend to rotate less than we do.

United wont have pulled out. He had deals agreed with all 3 clubs, he simply chose Chelsea (as it stands).

 

[Irish Scouse]

Yes true, but at United the only real competition is Young on the left hand side, at Chelsea Marin will be competing for that spot so it is about even in that respect, I think gametime wise United could of offered him just as much.

Very doubtful. He will be the main LW at Chelsea.

Young is much more competition than Marin (who had an average season in the Bundesliga, probably a backup player if Kalou leaves).

 

[Mike.]

Ramires would be wasted at right back. Leave him in that AMR slot, with Marin as cover/competition, and use the money on a regista instead of Hulk.

 

[zzeezzy]

Ramires would be wasted at right back. Leave him in that AMR slot, with Marin as cover/competition, and use the money on a regista instead of Hulk.

No Mike they need Hulk over Modric, shush!

Kagawa is predominantly an AMC, it's Hazard who plays across the band. Hazard would hve mostly started on the left with Kagawa/Rooney through the middle. Even without Kagawa, still second to Rooney in the whole. And we rotate a lot, he has less competition at Chelsea, and they tend to rotate less than we do.

United wont have pulled out. He had deals agreed with all 3 clubs, he simply chose Chelsea (as it stands).

I keep forgetting about Rooney for some odd reason, we have to keep Rooney in that AMC spot he is so much better there than lone striker, you are right Hazard would have no chance of getting that spot at United.

 

[Subtle]

Can anyone source where he said he wants to the no.10? Not saying that he wanted to be a number 10, but actually saying that he wants to be the no.10 at his English club. Preferably include the French version also.

If not, can we end this ****** thing about him wanting Mata's spot?

 

[Jake]

Can anyone source where he said he wants to the no.10? Not saying that he wanted to be a number 10, but actually saying that he wants to be the no.10 at his English club. Preferably include the French version also.

If not, can we end this ****** thing about him wanting Mata's spot?

As far as i can tell (i got bored of his twitter antics long ago) he has regularly stated his favourite position is as a classical ten. His idol is Zidane and that's where he wants to play. But nowhere has he demanded it, although based on his salary demands, his agents fee and the other rumoured lunacy surrounding his transfer, it wouldnt surprise me if there was a clause in his deal stating what position he is to be played in.

But just because someone has a favoured position doesn't mean they are unhappy/ineffective elsewhere. It's widely known that Ivanovic wants to play CB, but is more than happy (and always plays well) at right back, same with Essien when he played right back under Mourinho. Rooney is a ten, the epitome of it, but he has played as a poacher (the season when he scored all those goals) and also has operated from the left on many occasions to help the team.

 

[Mike.]

Can anyone source where he said he wants to the no.10? Not saying that he wanted to be a number 10, but actually saying that he wants to be the no.10 at his English club. Preferably include the French version also.

If not, can we end this ****** thing about him wanting Mata's spot?

Not necessarily wanting to play there, but calling it his favourite position, still wont play there anyway.

 

[Dunc]

To be fair, on SSN, they just said that he has stated that he wants to play as the 10. Not sure he's demanded it though, don't see how someone can 'demand' to be played in a position anyway, at the end of the day the manager is in charge.

 

[oja20]

Very exciting team we have now but I'm a bit sad our big powerful style of play is coming to an end, it defined Chelsea


I still think we need a striker. Torres and Lukaku aren't enough cover unless we plan on moving Studge back to the middle.
I'm actually looking forward to seeing Romelu the Romantic strut his stuff in the big leagues, he looked ok vs Liverpool but a bit raw still. Not necessarily a player you'd want as your 1st choice if Torres got injured for 2 months. Yet.

Also expecting one of Azip or VDW to come in at RB. Strange one really as I didn't think Bos did that bad this season but I guess we got our moneys worth.

Regista - the one position the fans seem to know we need but I'm not too sure it'll happen. Lamps seems to throw a huff when he's dropped and a Regista + Lamps in the 2 of midfield plus Hazard and Marin on the wings doesn't leave much protection for the defence. I can't see it happening.


The manager? Robbie will get the job on a 1 year contract so Roman can seduce Pep for a year.

Just my two pennies.

 

[zzeezzy]

Chelsea's main priority should be getting a regista though, as they have needed it so badly. Without that I can see it being another inconsistent domestic campaign for them.

 

[Subtle]

We don't need a regista, they're just very useful in the style of football that's popular at the moment. A midfield pivot of a holder with a tireless box to box player is arguably as good, just different.

 

[Alcaraz]

Chelsea's main priority should be getting a regista though, as they have needed it so badly. Without that I can see it being another inconsistent domestic campaign for them.

Hardly, even without a regista we will still do well. Just saying that if we do get Modric then we might have a team as good as Manchester City's

 

[Alcaraz]

This is what I don't get, you would assume Chelsea will play something like that next season but Hazard said he wanted to play in the no.10 position (Mata in your formation) but he won't get that unless Mata plays Left and Hazard plays there, but Mata is not as good as Hazard is on the left. So not completely sure why he chose Chelsea over United (although nothing has been confirmed yet).

Also Torres simply has to deliver this season, make or break in my opinion, if he does not deliver it could effect Chelsea hugely this season.

Hazard has hardly demanded to play the No. 10 role. Seems to me like he just commented that it was his favourite position and it got blown out of proportion. He anyways tends to drift down the left where he is very effective and Mata is one of the best No. 10s in the world in my opinion. No real debate here. He would not have played the No. 10 Role in any of the 3 clubs he narrowed himself down too

Agree with your view on Torres, if there was ever a season to step up it is now. Lukaku providing competition/cover. And if all else fails then just stick Sturridge up there and try get Falcao/Hulk in January if they are availiable.

No point wasting 40m on Hulk/Falcao now as things stand. If we had to spend that kind of money then we might as well do it on a regista. If Chelsea do not have enough confidence in Lukaku to provide Cover for El Nino then why not oursue a cheaper option, someone like Remy.

Plus zzeezy its pretty much assured we are not going to move for Falcao. Roman assured Torres about his future at the club and promised him the No. 1 Role next season.

 

[Alcaraz]

We don't need a regista, they're just very useful in the style of football that's popular at the moment. A midfield pivot of a holder with a tireless box to box player is arguably as good, just different.

Agreed but obviously a regista is much better. Mata has been forced to drop very deep last season in order to move the ball and it obviously limited his influence. Not sure but I remember reading that Hazard also went through the same problem.

 

[Alcaraz]

Also according to SSN, Chelsea allowed Hazard to reveal his potential destination as long as he did not conduct interviews before he was officially announced by the club. Probably going to be announced after the England-Belgium Friendly for my moneys worth

 

[Puddz]

Anyone else kinda unhappy about this? I always signed him on FM12 when I could and now it's going to be harder :'(

 

[Quasit]

Anyone else kinda unhappy about this? I always signed him on FM12 when I could and now it's going to be harder :'(

No because THE Ox :wub: will be upgraded for FM13.

 

[CJACKO11]

To be fair, on SSN, they just said that he has stated that he wants to play as the 10. Not sure he's demanded it though, don't see how someone can 'demand' to be played in a position anyway, at the end of the day the manager is in charge.

Not at Chelsea they aren't lol.


Browsing through some of the recent posts and i am in the we need a deep lying playmaker rather than another winger. Hulk is very good but for me he is just an over priced, older Sturridge and with Marin, Ramires, Hazard and Mata all interchanging i don't think we need another one. Now Modric along side Mikel would be devastating and i think we should pay the 40million they want for him. On the right back situation who ever we get will have to play second fiddle to Ivanovic who has turned into a world class right back and even got Madrid and Barca looking at him. Either VDW (24) or my choice Azpilicueta who is still only 22 and with Marseille not in the Champions League next season could very well be enticed. Either way the future of Chelsea FC is looking very bright with these recent signings, players leaving and academy players coming through. CFC is here to stay unfortunately.