I'm with the confidence thing myself like I mentioned earlier. He's broken now and just a shadow of how he used to be. Clean slate required for him
right Im having my two pennies on the torres debate!!!!
I'm not having he doesn't get th chances, He blatantly does how many sitters has he missed not only this season but last? United game missed pratically an open goal anyone remember that?
There are two problems with torres that I can see right his first is pace, he has lost a few yards he is not blistering onto balls like he used to, someone mentioned the everton game were he was to slow to get onto a ball. its plain to see that has gone and I'm sorry but in his liverpool days that was his biggest most potent attribute not that he was just fast but how explosively fast he was if we are talking in fm terms his acceleration was surely a 20 remember when he just use to pratically run through dfenders for fun. But I'm afraid this is gone it is no longer there I don't know if its injuries or hedoesn't fullyfeel comfortable with his legs to let them go IDK.
Secondly his confidence everyone bemoaning his lack of movement but I pesonally think he doen't want the ball he is that scared of missing now i just thimk his confidence is shot and iactually think it is too far goe think he should just move back to athletico and be happy again.
So you mix these two with the fact teams have worked out how to play torres you can just sit deep because the explosiveness of the pace isn't there I think its going to carry on like this till something give and chelsea can buy all the DLP appoint new managers d what they like. I personnally don't think he will ever be the same player again which is a shame
In that very same game Oscar put Torres through on goal to finish off the game,but he was too slow to get the shot off and Distin managed to get the tackle in.
To the last one, or he didnt get the ball and then relocated himself. And well if they have passed it, then its not working, tho this is just my opinion.
That link you brought up Alcaraz regarding Torres, well Torres reaction in the first set of photos tells us the answer. He was waiting for Hazard to make the pass so that he can run into it. If he had run first, it might have been offside. Here Hazard should have played the pass and Im certain he would have ran for it, got it and scored. But Hazard never made it and therefore he was like wtf.
2nd set of photos is also clear, thats what Ba did when he scored his 2nd. He thought Bertrand would pass and he would do same tap-in as Ba did against Southampton.
Summary of the situation in photos: Lack of sync.
EDIT: and to Nick, yes I saw the Corinthians game and yes, that was a great miss, but it wont help if everyone starts throwing stones at him for it. He probably knows it himself that he missed and badly, but these do happen in football, its not like the first time a player misses awesome chance and now youre going to say Torres has had many of those kind of chances. Yes, he has made mistakes in front of goal, no doubt about that one.
The Torres run was poor and Oscar should've took Distin away rather than run in the same direction as Torres. If Oscar had two good chances to put Torres through why did he only deliver 50% of the time?
I dont understand you at all. Its up to the striker to make the run and create the opportunity for the playmaker to pass the ball. Which is exactly what Ba did and Torres did not as the photo's quite clearly point out.
Your expecting Hazard to pass the ball into no-mans land on the off-chance that it might prompt a run from Torres which shoudl be the other way around as Torres should make the run prompting the pass from Hazard.
Your expecting Hazard to pass the ball into no-mans land on the off-chance that it might prompt a run from Torres which shoudl be the other way around as Torres should make the run prompting the pass from Hazard.
EDIT: and to Nick, yes I saw the Corinthians game and yes, that was a great miss, but it wont help if everyone starts throwing stones at him for it. He probably knows it himself that he missed and badly, but these do happen in football, its not like the first time a player misses awesome chance and now youre going to say Torres has had many of those kind of chances. Yes, he has made mistakes in front of goal, no doubt about that one.
Good form was rather relative. Even then he was still doing silly things, not taking shots and missing some easy chances. I reckon you might be right and he does need a rest, but I don't think it is to the point where he takes a performance drop as massive as it seems.
Are you serious? We've backed him. We've been patient with him. Fans have sung his name everywhere. How many chances should we give him?
I will ask you again, would SAF have had the patience we've shown?
Torres was waiting for Hazard to put the pass on and he would have moved immediately for it. QUOTE]
And would have never reached it
Torres was waiting for Hazard to put the pass on and he would have moved immediately for it. QUOTE]
And would have never reached it
I highly doubt that, I feel he would have scored or at least could have managed to get a good chance.
I know you lot already agree
But WHY is Frank Lampard leaving on a free.
He is running the show today against Stoke, such a good experienced player to have
He is on 150k p/w and its just not sensible to keep a 34 year-old player on those sort of wages in the FFP era. He would have to take a massive pay-cut to justify his inclusion which I doubt he will do. Plus all good things must eventually end.
Psst, he's already said he's willing to do so and I think you can worry a little less about FFP when you're losing one of your key players.