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The wage could be correct, it could be incorrect. GC points out that most reputable sources went with the £75k though. But its the speed at which it's accepted that it must be because of the money only, by Alcaraz that bemuses me.

Except their isn't any other tangible reason for him to choose United over Chelsea other than money. Not that's it's a bad thing mind ... I just don't get why United fans get so defensive when the tables are turned and it's actually them outspending teams to players
 
Except their isn't any other tangible reason for him to choose United over Chelsea other than money. Not that's it's a bad thing mind ... I just don't get why United fans get so defensive when the tables are turned and it's actually them outspending teams to players
Because you havent any proof on the wages. But you choose to pick the figure that suits your argument. Why isn't there a tangible reason? you're not Luke Shaw, you can't possibly know what his reasons are. He might have gone because they are one of the biggest clubs in the world, that they have a manager who prides himself on creating intelligent players from top class young talent (with a proven record in it), that he gets to be part of the challenge of putting United back on top, He might have gone simply because it's Manchester United, he might just like Manchester. No one actually knows. Point is, he's gone. Why are none of these tangible reasons? Because you say so?

No one is getting defensive. Stupid thing to say when both Tyton and Godcubed are making the points. Just pointing out the holes in your logic. Again where is this evidence of £130k wage. It's been reported in papers, but so has the £75k rising to £100k. My point is, why do you assume it has to be the former, apart from the fact it suits your argument.

You dismiss everything that doesnt fit your argument that he's gone because of the money, despite having zero concrete evidence to it.
 
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Just want to throw my 2 pence in here because i have seen a lot of negative comments about Drogba coming back and as much as everyone is enititled to their own opinion i see none which are valid! He isn't coming back to be 1st, 2nd or even 3rd choice if Torres stays! Bamford is nowhere near Premier League standard as of yet and need more time so won't effect him and Lukaku (if he even stays) will be infront of Drogba in the pecking order. We also have to factor in that we lost some big personalities in the dressing room this summer in Lampard, Cole and Luiz so he will help massively in that regard.


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Just want to throw my 2 pence in here because i have seen a lot of negative comments about Drogba coming back and as much as everyone is enititled to their own opinion i see none which are valid! He isn't coming back to be 1st, 2nd or even 3rd choice if Torres stays! Bamford is nowhere near Premier League standard as of yet and need more time so won't effect him and Lukaku (if he even stays) will be infront of Drogba in the pecking order. We also have to factor in that we lost some big personalities in the dressing room this summer in Lampard, Cole and Luiz so he will help massively in that regard.


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Think he will provide some much needed leadership, can wheel him out for certain games as well. I would still keep Torres mind.
 
Just want to throw my 2 pence in here because i have seen a lot of negative comments about Drogba coming back and as much as everyone is enititled to their own opinion i see none which are valid!

That's because most of our comments were made on assumption that Torres would leave. Since he stays I see no problem with Drogba coming back. Extra striker always helps, especially since you'll most likely play 50+ games a year, Costa has glass hamstrings, Lukaku is unreliable, and Torres can't hit a barn.
 
That's because most of our comments were made on assumption that Torres would leave. Since he stays I see no problem with Drogba coming back.

That's the thing. he shouldnt replace Torres. But signing him as a key dressing room man and 4th striker, very good idea.
 
I'm more than happy to keep all four strikers this season! Costa/lukaku to be used mainly in the premier league, Torres majory of the European group games and drogba mainly as a late sub now and again in all comps
 
Just reading what Mourinho has said about Shaw and how it would kill Chelsea if they had paid him those wages is a bit of a contradiction to what Chelsea paid to someone who was 21 when they signed him and was just 2 years older than Shaw and giving him £185,000 per week. Also Spending £32 Mill on the player as well. That player is Eden Hazard.

Chelsea have offloaded Cashley Cole and Lampard now which has freed up £245,000 per week and letting Luiz go saves another £75,000 per week as letting E'too go as well.

So Mourinho saying that Shaw would kill Chelsea is just another attempt from him just trying his stupid mind games as he knows United are making serious waves this year. To me he is starting to run scared already before the Premier league kicks off.
 
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Just reading what Mourinho has said about Shaw and how it would kill Chelsea if they had paid him those wages is a bit of a contradiction to what Chelsea paid to someone who was 21 when they signed him and was just 2 years older than Shaw and giving him £185,000 per week. Also Spending £32 Mill on the player as well. That player is Eden Hazard.

Chelsea have offloaded Cashley Cole and Lampard now which has freed up £245,000 per week and letting Luiz go saves another £75,000 per week as letting E'too go as well.

So Mourinho saying that Shaw would kill Chelsea is just another attempt from him just trying his stupid mind games as he knows United are making serious waves this year. To me he is starting to run scared already before the Premier league kicks off.
Shaw hasn't proven anything so far, yet Hazard was player of the year in France twice in a row, even at his young age, also managed to win the title with Lille.
Just because Lampard and Cole left, and they had huge wages, doesn't mean you have to replace them with other players with similar wages. He had options for the LB position in Filipe: lower transfer fee, lower wages, and at the moment, Filipe is a better player than Shaw.
 
Bit far saying Mourinho is running scared from utd lol if there's one thing Jose never does it's run from a challenge
 
Shaw hasn't proven anything so far, yet Hazard was player of the year in France twice in a row, even at his young age, also managed to win the title with Lille.
Just because Lampard and Cole left, and they had huge wages, doesn't mean you have to replace them with other players with similar wages. He had options for the LB position in Filipe: lower transfer fee, lower wages, and at the moment, Filipe is a better player than Shaw.

Filipe is also 28 and at his peak. Shaw isnt, and has at the very least another decade in him.

Filipe is also on 80k a week based on spanish reports
 
Bit far saying Mourinho is running scared from utd lol if there's one thing Jose never does it's run from a challenge

He's not running scared, just having a wind up, to which LVG didnt bite, and has said he will talk to Jose privately
 
Have Chavski not spent over a billion pounds since Abramovich took over. Yeah Jose spending £100,000 a week is really going to cripple your club. Fool.
 
Have Chavski not spent over a billion pounds since Abramovich took over. Yeah Jose spending £100,000 a week is really going to cripple your club. Fool.

And they are paying Luis 80k a week anyway


Thing is, his complaint was about paying a player that young that much money ( which is still actually up for debate). But the very young hazard 21 when (signed) was given 180k. Bear in mind his argument was less about the quality of the player, but about the age. Which makes zero sense when you look at Eden Hazard
 
He's not running scared, just having a wind up, to which LVG didnt bite, and has said he will talk to Jose privately

I really don't see why some people still take him serious in all honestly 99% of the time he is trying to wind somebody up you just have to take what he says with a pinch of salt and the thing is he admitted himself he loves the abuse he gets when he has wound people up which just makes him do it even more.
 
Have Chavski not spent over a billion pounds since Abramovich took over. Yeah Jose spending £100,000 a week is really going to cripple your club. Fool.

Now you have gone and done it. Being britical of Mourinho by calling him a fool will have a certain member on here all over you like a rash.
 
Just want to throw my 2 pence in here because i have seen a lot of negative comments about Drogba coming back and as much as everyone is enititled to their own opinion i see none which are valid! He isn't coming back to be 1st, 2nd or even 3rd choice if Torres stays! Bamford is nowhere near Premier League standard as of yet and need more time so won't effect him and Lukaku (if he even stays) will be infront of Drogba in the pecking order. We also have to factor in that we lost some big personalities in the dressing room this summer in Lampard, Cole and Luiz so he will help massively in that regard.


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Personality in the dressing room is always important, and respected legends of the club are definitely more than welcomed even if they are past their peak. I have nothing but praise for this signing, because I had always believed that a football club is more than just the 11 players on the field. Henrik Larsson joined us for 6 months and we benefited way more than the numbers or his performance on the field indicates.
 
Mourinho didn't sign Hazard.
Filipe on an 80k pay is pretty much expected.
Shaw on the other hand is 19 if i'm not mistaken, and he has pretty much the same wage as Filipe. Every time he will renew his contract, i seriously doubt his wages will go down. 75k/week for a 19 year old, will bite you in the *** in a few years.
I hope Shaw makes it, and becomes a great player, but our objective this year is winning the title. If that doesn't happen, most likely Mourinho will leave (unfortunately). United is rebuilding, so to go for a young player is logical, but when you aim high, you go for a certainty. And Filipe is one. He may or may not flop, like any other player, but we have a better chance with him than Shaw.
Again, Shaw is a great prospect, but if we would have gotten him, we should have kept Ashley too.
 
And they are paying Luis 80k a week anyway


Thing is, his complaint was about paying a player that young that much money ( which is still actually up for debate). But the very young hazard 21 when (signed) was given 180k. Bear in mind his argument was less about the quality of the player, but about the age. Which makes zero sense when you look at Eden Hazard

Not exactly sure where in the world you get your figures because Hazard is being paid 100k p/w
 
Because you havent any proof on the wages. But you choose to pick the figure that suits your argument. Why isn't there a tangible reason? you're not Luke Shaw, you can't possibly know what his reasons are. He might have gone because they are one of the biggest clubs in the world, that they have a manager who prides himself on creating intelligent players from top class young talent (with a proven record in it), that he gets to be part of the challenge of putting United back on top, He might have gone simply because it's Manchester United, he might just like Manchester. No one actually knows. Point is, he's gone. Why are none of these tangible reasons? Because you say so?

No one is getting defensive. Stupid thing to say when both Tyton and Godcubed are making the points. Just pointing out the holes in your logic. Again where is this evidence of £130k wage. It's been reported in papers, but so has the £75k rising to £100k. My point is, why do you assume it has to be the former, apart from the fact it suits your argument.

You dismiss everything that doesnt fit your argument that he's gone because of the money, despite having zero concrete evidence to it.

There are plenty of articles which have his wages pegged at around 100k p/w. I am not even going to bother post them up because that's the figure that's been reported like everywhere. No I am not Luke Shaw but the very fact that you can't dream up of an alternative reason shows that money was the biggest factor. He went to United because they are the biggest club in the world? That's sounds a bit ludicrous considering he is a Chelsea fan. He went to United because of LVG? That's again a bit ludicrous because he actually agreed to sign under Moyes. Also Jose is second to none in terms of player development. He went because he liked Manchester over London? That part made me laugh. Obviously any of these reasons are possible but maybe you should read them back and see how convincing they actually sound before you blame me for squirreling something

Also I actually never mentioned £130k p/w. Not sure where you got the idea that I picked that figure. All I said was that United blew everyone out of the transfer market with their exorbitant contract offer for Shaw. A fact that has been backed up by plenty of papers and now Mourinho himself. I haven't dismissed anything .. On the controrary, you are the one who dismisses the very idea that United might actually outspend a rival to a player and instead keep insisting that it's down to other reasons like the fact that he likes Manchester. Yeah and Drogba came back to Chelsea because he liked the Dim Sum down the street. Sounds about right
 
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