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Madridista CR7 said:
All you fu**ing wankers are against a City supporter again. Go wank yourself idiots.
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Calm down. No one's against City supporters. It's a valid point that your side is nowhere near as effective without your best player in the side..

City is much more than Tevez....he is a big part of City now but it's not like if he leaves the team we can't win. He can be replaced.
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Clearly not.. Otherwise when he had his little tantrum earlier this season, City would have told him where to go. Tevez is City's best player by some margin IMO - A squad full of talented players worth a ridiculous amount of money, but most of those players haven't yet gelled properly and Tevez clearly carries the team at times.

Who would you replace him with? Wayne Rooney? There's not exactly a host of world-class strikers, like Tevez, available atm. (Probably because your team has bought and destroyed the careers of most of them)..

Btw....are Everton doing now great when they won a not in form Chelsea with penalties?
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Oh yeah, cos Everton are in form.. Chelsea, bar this weekend, are finding form again.
 
Blakefish80 said:
****, You're right. My apologies. I ofcourse meant short sighted. Dzeko has shown signs already of his incredible technique. Give him a bit of time. He is way better than Cahill and if you lot are being honest with yourselves you know that's true..
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I'm pretty sure I wrote right now hence ignoring his potential and taking the players as they are right now. And currently, Cahill wins hands down. And also, you still have to beat Villa to get to Everton, which isn't exactly a given result.
 
You chaps are welcome to your opinion about how effective City are without Carlos Tevez, But if you genuinely believe we are a one man team then i seriously question your footballing knowledge. I get to all Citys home games and most away games (work permiting) and yes, Tevez is a world class striker, Yesterday he scored his 50th goal in 69 games for us. Not sure there's a better record anywhere. But he isn't our most important player. Infact some people i sit next to at Eastlands believe we play better without him as he is increadibly greedy.

Our most important players are Vincent Kompany, David Silva THEN, and only then, Carlos Tevez. If he left or suffered a long term injury i wouldn't exactly be devestated having to SETTLE with a forward line of Balotelli, Silva, Dzeko... Still the best forward line in the league IMO.
 
Blakefish80 said:
You chaps are welcome to your opinion about how effective City are without Carlos Tevez, But if you genuinely believe we are a one man team then i seriously question your footballing knowledge. I get to all Citys home games and most away games (work permiting) and yes, Tevez is a world class striker, Yesterday he scored his 50th goal in 69 games for us. Not sure there's a better record anywhere. But he isn't our most important player. Infact some people i sit next to at Eastlands believe we play better without him as he is increadibly greedy.

Our most important players are Vincent Kompany, David Silva THEN, and only then, Carlos Tevez. If he left or suffered a long term injury i wouldn't exactly be devestated having to SETTLE with a forward line of Balotelli, Silva, Dzeko... Still the best forward line in the league IMO.
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if im not mistaken, tevez provides half the goals man city scores.
 
This will Shock the world. But i am on the City Fans side. :O. Dzeko is a great player and whilst Tevez is very good. they are a very good side without him.. In the Manchester Derby Dzeko did more in 20 minutes then tevez did in 90. think about that.
 
Blakefish80 said:
And Berbatov has scored the lions share of your goals. Is he your most impoortant player? I'd say right now that is probably Nani.
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Nani has carried our attack for much of the season, much in the same way Tevez and Silva have for you. .
 
Joel` said:
Nani has carried our attack for much of the season, much in the same way Tevez and Silva have for you. .
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Silva deffo. Without him we have shown a worrying lack of creativity. But come on, City have a wonderfull squad capable of great football when they actualy decide to turn on the heat like we all know they can. What we need is cohesion and time. Imagine how good this group will be given a couple of seasons playing together.

Carlos Tevez is world class, Probably the best striker in the world right now IMO. But City are still one of the best teams in the league without him.
 
Aaron Ramsey has been pencilled in for the FA Cup Fifth-Round replay with Leyton Orient.

The Wales midfielder is currently on loan with former club Cardiff City but he is due back this weekend and, fitness permitting, will be considered for Arsenal duty a little over a year since his last first-team appearance ended with a double leg fracture.

“He is on loan until Saturday,” Wenger told Arsenal.com. “After that he comes back. He could be available for the second game against Leyton Orient on Wednesday.

“I have had good reports from Cardiff and I intend to use him. He could not play last Saturday because he had a little hip problem and we demanded that he rest.

“I think he will play this Saturday again and then we will see if he comes through that game well. After that he is available for Arsenal.”

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Would be brilliant for him to make his return ASAP. Could do with the extra quality in the run-in to the end of the season.
 
Lookin forward to seeing Ramsey back. Extremely talented lad. Be interesting to see how he responds after the break. Good luck to the lad. Sooner he's back the better imo
 
Arsenal keeper Manuel Almunia will start with Wojciech Szczesny on the bench against Leyton Orient. Robin van Persie (knee), Cesc Fabregas (hamstring), Theo Walcott (ankle), Laurent Koscielny (hamstring) and Alex Song (knee) have been ruled out.
Leyton Orient's Jonathan Tehoue was his side's hero in the first game and has recovered from a migraine to play.
Harry Kane is suspended but Steve Dawson (knee), Matthew Spring (calf) and Jimmy Smith (hamstring) are doubts.


BIG-MATCH FACTS
The tie in context
• Leyton Orient are the sole surviving League One representatives in the FA Cup, and the lowest ranked club left in the competition.
Winners to play
• Away to Manchester United in the quarter-finals on Saturday, 12 March (1715 GMT)
Gulf in class
• Arsenal are 53 places higher than Leyton Orient in the league standings.

Head-to-head
• This is the 12th competitive meeting of these clubs.
• Leyton Orient have only won two of the previous 11, and have never beaten Arsenal away from home.
FA Cup records and best performances
• The O's earned this replay, courtesy of an 89th minute equaliser from Jonathan Tehoue.
Arsenal 1-1 Leyton Orient, Jan)
• That was the first time Leyton Orient held the Gunners in five FA Cup meetings, and only the second time they had scored against them in the competition.

The clubs

ARSENAL
Current form
• Smarting from Sunday's late Carling Cup defeat to Birmingham at Wembley.
• That defeat followed an 11-match undefeated sequence of nine wins and two draws.
• Won the last seven league and cup matches at the Emirates Stadium.
• Not lost in 13 at home, since Tottenham's 3-2 triumph in the Premier League on 20 November.
FA Cup form
• This is their third successive round against lower league opposition, and the second occasion that they have been taken to a replay.
• Last eliminated by a club outside the top two divisions in January 1992, when Wrexham prevailed 2-1 at the Racecourse Ground.
• Since winning the cup for the 10th and most recent time in 2005, Arsenal have only progressed beyond the fifth round stage once. They were semi-finalists in the season before last.
• If they do not concede, it will be Arsenal's 150th clean sheet in FA Cup history.

LEYTON ORIENT
Current form
• Undefeated in 13 league and cup games.
• Won seven and drawn six since losing 5-0 to Brighton on New Years' Day; their only loss in 22.
FA Cup form
• Already accounted for Championship high-fliers Norwich and Swansea.
• Not qualified for the quarter-finals since their club record run in 1978, which culminated in a 3-0 defeat to Arsenal in the semi-finals at Stamford Bridge.
• Fulham was the last Premier League club they ousted; 2-1 away from home in the third round in January 2006.
 
Courtesy of BBC Sport:
Man City v Aston Villa

FA Cup fifth round
Venue: Eastlands Date: Wednesday, 2 March Kick-off: 1945 GMT
Coverage: BBC Sport website, BBC Radio 5 live, BBC local radio, also live on ITV1.

TEAM NEWS
Manchester City winger David Silva (ankle) and right-back Micah Richards (calf) may return to face Aston Villa.
But manager Roberto Mancini will again be without Vincent Kompany (hip), Nigel de Jong (ankle), Adam Johnson (ankle) and keeper Shay Given (shoulder).
Aston Villa left-back Nathan Baker is out with concussion and Fabian Delph is likely to deputise.
Ciaran Clark will play at centre-back with Carlos Cuellar and James Collins out, while Jean Makoun is suspended.

BIG-MATCH FACTS
The tie in context
• One of these clubs will join the five Premier League sides who qualified for the quarter-finals on the weekend before last.
Winners to play
Home to either Everton or Reading in the quarter-finals on Sunday, 13 March (Kick Off: 1645 GMT).
Gulf in class
• Manchester City are nine places higher than Villa in the top-flight.
Head-to-head
• This is the 158th competitive meeting of these clubs, and their third this season. Honours are even after the two Premier League clashes.
Manchester City 4-0 Aston Villa (Prem Lge, 28 Dec)
Aston Villa 1-0 Manchester City (Prem Lge, 22 Jan)
FA Cup records and best performances
• This is the eighth occasion these clubs have been drawn to meet each other in the FA Cup.
• Manchester City progressed for the fifth time in their most recent clash this month five years ago. They won 2-1 in a fifth round replay at Eastlands.
• Villa have not knocked out City since a 3-2 triumph in the 1938 quarter-finals.

The clubs
MANCHESTER CITY
Current form
• Undefeated in four league and cup games (W2, D2), conceding just one goal in the process.
• Lost one of eight.
• Not lost in eight at home; won seven and drawn one at Eastlands, since Everton's 2-1 triumphant visit on 20 December.

FA Cup form
• Needed home replays to get past Leicester and Notts County in the previous two rounds.
• Knocked out by Stoke in the fifth round last season; the last time they were drawn against a Premier League club in the competition.
• The four-times winners, who have not lifted the trophy since 1969, are hoping to reach the last eight for the first time in four years.

ASTON VILLA
Current form
• Saturday's 4-1 home win over Blackburn, was Villa's first victory in four in all competitions.
• Lost one of nine.
• Kept one clean in 21 league and cup games.

FA Cup form
• Already knocked out Championship club Sheffield United and fellow Premier League Blackburn in this cup run.
• The seven-times winners, who last lifted the trophy in 1957 and last appeared in the final in 2000, reached the semi-finals last year.
• Been knocked out by Premier League clubs in nine of the last 11 occasions they have been drawn against them in the competition.

Match officials
Referee: Mark Clattenburg (Tyne & Wear)
Assistant referees: Simon Long and Ceri Richards
Fourth official: Jon Moss​
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I'm hoping for a Villa win but can see us being edged out 1-0 or 2-1.
 
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Reckon Arsenal will make hard work of Orient, 2-1 with a late winner.

City is tough. They'll probably win 3-1.

EDIT: Scratch that one, considering the following team:

VILLA LINE-UP: Friedel; Herd, Dunne, Clark, Delph; Bannan, Petrov, Bradley, Agbonlahor; Delfouneso, Heskey. Subs: Marshall, Pires, Reo-Coker, Walker, A Young, Downing, Albrighton.

So, midfielders at the fullback positions, a central mid on the left and a striker on the right. Great...
 
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MAN CITY: Hart, Richards, Boateng, Lescott, Zabaletta, Vieira, Barry, Silva, Y Toure, Kolarov, Balotelli.

VILLA LINE-UP: Friedel; Herd, Dunne, Clark, Delph; Bannan, Petrov, Bradley, Agbonlahor; Delfouneso, Heskey. Subs: Marshall, Pires, Reo-Coker, Walker, A Young, Downing, Albrighton.

Not happy with that line up, I understand rotation and all that but we've already effectively thrown in the towel, only playing 2 actual defenders, Luke Young is apparently fit again and isn't in the squad. Players can't complain of tiredness since they just had 2 weeks off before Blackburn and Bent isn't even in the squad! Can't see a win in this for us now.
 
Arsenal 1/3/2011

Confirmed: Miquel and Henderson start. TEAM: Almunia; Eboue Squillaci Miquel Gibbs; Diaby Denilson; Bendtner Rosicky Henderson; Chamakh.

Henderson is a left footed central midfielder. Not quick, but good on the ball, intelligent. Takes a good set piece. Quite injury prone.

London-born, Henderson has played for both England & Ireland. Hard working and stylish. He follows me on Twitter, so must be a top guy too!

Henderson is not a star player, but he works hard, gets stuck in and is a massive Arsenal fan. Delighted to see him start. Good luck, Hendo!

All this according to Young Guns on Twitter
 
ChippyLowe said:
MAN CITY: Hart, Richards, Boateng, Lescott, Zabaletta, Vieira, Barry, Silva, Y Toure, Kolarov, Balotelli.

VILLA LINE-UP: Friedel; Herd, Dunne, Clark, Delph; Bannan, Petrov, Bradley, Agbonlahor; Delfouneso, Heskey. Subs: Marshall, Pires, Reo-Coker, Walker, A Young, Downing, Albrighton.

Not happy with that line up, I understand rotation and all that but we've already effectively thrown in the towel, only playing 2 actual defenders, Luke Young is apparently fit again and isn't in the squad. Players can't complain of tiredness since they just had 2 weeks off before Blackburn and Bent isn't even in the squad! Can't see a win in this for us now.
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Well Bent is ineligible to be fair :P Is that Delph at full back again?
 
Joss said:
Confirmed: Miquel and Henderson start. TEAM: Almunia; Eboue Squillaci Miquel Gibbs; Diaby Denilson; Bendtner Rosicky Henderson; Chamakh.

Henderson is a left footed central midfielder. Not quick, but good on the ball, intelligent. Takes a good set piece. Quite injury prone.

London-born, Henderson has played for both England & Ireland. Hard working and stylish. He follows me on Twitter, so must be a top guy too!

Henderson is not a star player, but he works hard, gets stuck in and is a massive Arsenal fan. Delighted to see him start. Good luck, Hendo!

All this according to Young Guns on Twitter
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Arsenal_James1997 said:
Arsenal Team To Face Leyton Orient:

Team in full: Almunia, Eboue, Squillaci, Miquel, Gibbs, Diaby, Denilson, Rosicky, Chamakh, Henderson, Bendtner

Subs: Szczesny, Sagna, Nasri, Wilshere, Djourou, Clichy, Arshavin

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/team-news-henderson-and-miquel-start
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Zoom. Strong bench..
 
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