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Happily take Blackburn. That'll probably be the Sunday, day after we're back from Germany so a short trip will do nice.

Blue ***** got a horrendous trek.
 
Tyton said:
Eh, that doesn't really mean anything. Brazilian players have a long known habit of over-hyping and promoting their own. Pele used to do it all the time.
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I was just posting what he said...

I don't agree with it because obviously he isn't up there with the likes of Ozil lol.

I do think there is a lot more to come from him though!

Epic Terrorist hit the nail on the head with his post just after my original one.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Quicky on Souness. 1984 European Cup semi against Bucharest. Big Romanian gronk rakes his studs down the back of Kenny's hammy forcing him off first half. Graeme didn't forget, Second half, got himself between said gronk and the lino Kemmy side, and bang, the Romanians down in a heap with a broken jaw in two places. Taking care of your own. Then the return over there, they're all baying for his blood. Seat cushions and all sorts being thrown the pitch at him as we come out. And he's stood there webbing them back the crowd with Paisley going nuts lol.
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He was basically the footballing equivalent of an Ice hockey enforcer haha
 
Subtle said:
They haven't though. They clearly told people that he was going to be available in the summer, this was the price (38m), that's how it was. From what I understand, this is why we didn't lodge an official bid. You however, went in there and poked the sleeping lion by offering 38m now. Then he came out with that utterly stupid interview and the combination of the two, despite Akhmetov telling you not this window, has caused them to become pretty ****** off. Fair bit of blame for the club and the player really.
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Subtle has this bang on. Clubs and players should never try and put Shakthar in corner. They will always come out on top. They sell when they want, for the price they want
 
Subtle said:
Of course it would, because he was never available for 38m this window, that was the price they quoted for the summer and the club made it very clear that if he wanted to leave in this window the release clause would need to be met because they would not willingly give him up. They were two separate possibilities, you tried to combine the best elements of both into one deal and they justifiably told you to sod off.



They already basically said they will sell in the summer but they need him to finish the campaign. They have been saying that ever since we were linked to him in November.



It's nothing to do with being mobsters, they were very clear about what they would accept and when, and you guys basically ignored it and tried to force the transfer under your terms, as did the player himself with that stupid interview. You might get away trying to bully a club like Southampton with that sort of thing, but here you're dealing with someone that is more than willing to tell you where to stick your offer. Shakhtar have a history of refusing to bow to player pressure and of not being intimidated by pretty much anyone. You only need to look at the Fernandinho deal. They bent City over for every penny they wanted there, refused to compromise and even made the player himself effectively pay £4m to be transferred.

If anything, the ones acting like mobsters are Liverpool. Declaring interest and making a lowball bid in order to get the player come out and say he wants to leave, forcing the selling club into a ****** position. That's why I commented on Sterling, because you guys had a fit the second he got his head turned by City, yet you do exactly the same thing to everyone else. You even did it to Lacazette in the summer iirc. Which is how it goes really, that's the game and everyone else does it. The hypocrisy is the funny part.

(for the record, the cases are obviously not the same as Sterling really pushed his through but the overwhelming principle is the same)
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Liverpool clearly didn't learn from the last time they tried to business with them.
 
God. Another 11 hours or so of Teixera speculation as desperate sites look for added clicks and even more desperate fools on Sky try fill dead air time by making excitement out of none story's.

**** Transfer Windows. Used to be a lot better before them IMHO.

The last day of a window is the worst day of the year
 
What makes me laugh is how Sky Sports News even act like this deal could even get done today.
 
Huge transfer news for us:

Sturridge has made a loan move from the physio room to the training ground on a 2 week deal before returning
 
Joint statement from the LFC Supporters Committee, and Spirit of Shakily and Spion Kop 1906 fan groups on the conclusion of the ticket working group:


On Saturday 30 January representatives of all three supporters groups that make up the Ticket Working Group, met with LFC for the last time following 13 months of discussion about ticket prices and accessibility. The club presented their final proposal and plan to announce next-season’s prices for the entire stadium this week.

The outcome is extremely disappointing and a missed opportunity for LFC to lead in a fairer approach to ticket prices. After months of time and effort, meetings and debate of ideas and plans to lower supporters’ costs, the owners have chosen to increase prices for many. In the context of the huge income rises the club will receive next year, to up their revenue from fans through season and matchday tickets is both unnecessary and morally unjustifiable.

At a time of ever increasing commercial and media revenues, the club’s reliance on ‘general-admission’ returns is diminishing, and this is a lost opportunity for LFC to begin the reversal of the effects of inflation-busting prices that have forced out many loyal fans over recent years. We had hoped to find a solution to better accessibility to Anfield for younger and future generations through reduced ticket prices.

We began our engagement with the club in a spirit of cooperation and a willingness to compromise. To give the process the best chance of success we presented ideas and agreed to their requests for confidentiality, agreeing a Terms of Reference by which we have abided.
Our proposals going into the negotiation were as follows:

1. At least 70% of the ground to be paying an affordable price (£30 in our view);

2. An end to match categorisation and;

3. Increases in the number of young supporters inside Anfield.

We believe it is right and fair to lower ticket prices in order to sustain our support and subsequently the atmosphere inside Anfield.

Unfortunately, the decisions of the ownership are based purely on economics with no compromise. They have tried to frame the debate from the view that ticket prices as they stand are fair and that their planned rises somehow supports this fairness. This is an unsustainable argument being put by the owners. Fairness is not making more money than ever before from supporters.

There will be some new initiatives, but the major issues of ticket cost and categorisation remain unresolved, unappreciated by the owners and a further setback for loyal supporters trying to afford to watch their team play.

We will make further detailed comment once the new prices are released in the coming days.


Wish FSG would just sell up and **** off. We may end up with someone just as bad, but it can't be any worse. Record TV money. New stand bumping match day revenue massively and they still lamely try justify their out right greed.

Some serious protests need to be the order of the day again.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Joint statement from the LFC Supporters Committee, and Spirit of Shakily and Spion Kop 1906 fan groups on the conclusion of the ticket working group:


On Saturday 30 January representatives of all three supporters groups that make up the Ticket Working Group, met with LFC for the last time following 13 months of discussion about ticket prices and accessibility. The club presented their final proposal and plan to announce next-season’s prices for the entire stadium this week.

The outcome is extremely disappointing and a missed opportunity for LFC to lead in a fairer approach to ticket prices. After months of time and effort, meetings and debate of ideas and plans to lower supporters’ costs, the owners have chosen to increase prices for many. In the context of the huge income rises the club will receive next year, to up their revenue from fans through season and matchday tickets is both unnecessary and morally unjustifiable.

At a time of ever increasing commercial and media revenues, the club’s reliance on ‘general-admission’ returns is diminishing, and this is a lost opportunity for LFC to begin the reversal of the effects of inflation-busting prices that have forced out many loyal fans over recent years. We had hoped to find a solution to better accessibility to Anfield for younger and future generations through reduced ticket prices.

We began our engagement with the club in a spirit of cooperation and a willingness to compromise. To give the process the best chance of success we presented ideas and agreed to their requests for confidentiality, agreeing a Terms of Reference by which we have abided.
Our proposals going into the negotiation were as follows:

1. At least 70% of the ground to be paying an affordable price (£30 in our view);

2. An end to match categorisation and;

3. Increases in the number of young supporters inside Anfield.

We believe it is right and fair to lower ticket prices in order to sustain our support and subsequently the atmosphere inside Anfield.

Unfortunately, the decisions of the ownership are based purely on economics with no compromise. They have tried to frame the debate from the view that ticket prices as they stand are fair and that their planned rises somehow supports this fairness. This is an unsustainable argument being put by the owners. Fairness is not making more money than ever before from supporters.

There will be some new initiatives, but the major issues of ticket cost and categorisation remain unresolved, unappreciated by the owners and a further setback for loyal supporters trying to afford to watch their team play.

We will make further detailed comment once the new prices are released in the coming days.


Wish FSG would just sell up and **** off. We may end up with someone just as bad, but it can't be any worse. Record TV money. New stand bumping match day revenue massively and they still lamely try justify their out right greed.

Some serious protests need to be the order of the day again.
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At the end of the day all they care about is bums on seats, even If they increase ticket prices im sure the stadium will still be full. Sucks tbh and be careful what you wish for FSG are not the worst owners considering how much money they've pumped into the club.
 
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dilakh2 said:
At the end of the day all they care about is bums on seats, even If they increase ticket prices im sure the stadium will still be full. Sucks tbh and be careful what you wish for FSG are not the worse owners considering how much money they've pumped into the club.
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When it comes to the fans interests, they, led by that Harley riding shithouse Ayre, are EVERY bit as bad as the bungling twosome that went before.
 
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Oh more joy of ****ing joys.


Enriques failed to agree with Newcastle. (What? Drop from the **** Liverpool are paying me for less to actually play? Behave ********. Do I look like an actual footballer or something?).


Well, at least the animals at Knowsley Safari Park or wherever else he's taking a zillion selfies today will be happy.

Three windows in a row we've agreed a deal and he's turned it down. The PL has breed WAY too many of his ilk of player. Rather sit and rake it in than actually play.
 
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He came to us from Newcastle too didn't he? If he won't leave for a former club, where he had enough success to earn a move to Liverpool, he won't move at all. Thankfully will be gone at the end of the season.
 
Just waiting for today's **** storm when the club announce next years prices (why so early BTW? They've never done that before); with prices highly likely to hit £70 for the top of a category A game and over a grand for some season tickets. All from a club not in the Champions League and looking at a major boost in revenue from the new stand and TV deal.

FSG spend over a year in fan 'dialogue' talking about initiatives to get local kids back and lower prices; and then completely ignore those talks through complete greed. We're quite possibly looking at the highest price the entire league next year and I they'll be a lot the just give up their ST if they go North of a grand.

Expect some VERY vocal abuse tonight Boston. *****!
 
Said this about FSG and Kroenke at Arsenal before. Ignore the big loving words they use, they admire the Glazer model. This is why I have been constantly cynical about FSG
 
Match day ticket revenue accounts for a mere 12% of our total yearly revenue.

I guess we should wait for the official announcement, but everything's pointing to a massive hike.

Absolutey no justification for this at all.
 
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