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Di Marzio saying Shaqiris brother met with LFC to discuss contract talks.

Sanchez and Shaqiri, would surely mean Suarez is on the way out.

The Sanchez deal hasnt happened. Not entirely set that's up for sale. It comes down to Cuadrado, and who he replaces form Alves and Sanchez. Personally Barca are batshit even contemplating it. But then they sold Thiago, so go figure.
 
The Sanchez deal hasnt happened. Not entirely set that's up for sale. It comes down to Cuadrado, and who he replaces form Alves and Sanchez. Personally Barca are batshit even contemplating it. But then they sold Thiago, so go figure.

I know, only way I really see it realistically happening is part of a deal for Suarez which would also explain the Shaqiri movement (if true).
 
At this point I'd seriously consider selling Suarez. You're likely looking at world record transfer here. Yes, he's that good of a player but in the longterm you'll have huge losses in advertising and sponsor revenue if his behaviour keeps up (which it will) and potentially Cantona-sized ban. And then you're left in the toilet with nothing.

Let it be somebody elses problem.
 
At this point I'd seriously consider selling Suarez. You're likely looking at world record transfer here. Yes, he's that good of a player but in the longterm you'll have huge losses in advertising and sponsor revenue if his behaviour keeps up (which it will) and potentially Cantona-sized ban. And then you're left in the toilet with nothing.

Let it be somebody elses problem.

That said, it's a brave ******* man who would sell Suarez after his season just gone.
 
That said, it's a brave ******* man who would sell Suarez after his season just gone.

Definitely. Very easy to be a paper expert, but its a tough ******* call to make. You're basically deciding entire future of the club for better part of a decade. Will they raise to elite or stay the wannabes.

But this is also why I'll go with safer choice, which is to sell. Suarez is near Messi/Ronaldo level, but he's also a time-bomb, waiting to explode. Madrid or Barca can take the full blast and survive unshattered. Liverpool...may not.
 
Definitely. Very easy to be a paper expert, but its a tough ******* call to make. You're basically deciding entire future of the club for better part of a decade. But this is also why I'll go with safer choice, which is to sell. Suarez is near Messi/Ronaldo level, but he's also a time-bomb, waiting to explode. Madrid or Barca can take the full blast and survive unshattered. Liverpool...may not.

I think it was happening anyway, his agent already started the talking (it would be very hard to turn madrid or barca down etc) this gives Liverpool a very strong narrative to sell without looking bad with the fans. Especially if they spend the income well. He's brilliant like you say, but he is an epic nutcase, and he will **** up again. Adidas are already looking at their deal with him pending FIFA;s decision, so you can be sure your club sponsors might have a rethink, and that is something you cannot afford.
 
I think it was happening anyway, his agent already started the talking (it would be very hard to turn madrid or barca down etc) this gives Liverpool a very strong narrative to sell without looking bad with the fans. Especially if they spend the income well. He's brilliant like you say, but he is an epic nutcase, and he will **** up again. Adidas are already looking at their deal with him pending FIFA;s decision, so you can be sure your club sponsors might have a rethink, and that is something you cannot afford.

Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest to find out this has been going on behind closed doors for a few weeks.

We had to know that Madrid/Barca would come in for him at some point. Trading him for Sanchez + 4-50mil or whatever along with singing Shaqiri would leave a huge amount left to work on signing full backs and improving the team overall.
 
Another thing worth pointing out is that he already has bunch of previous offenses in the Prem. Just one extra biting incident and this time the ruling would be a lot more harsh then 10 match ban (which was generous to begin with).
 
Another thing worth pointing out is that he already has bunch of previous offenses in the Prem. Just one extra biting incident and this time the ruling would be a lot more harsh then 10 match ban (which was generous to begin with).

Five months, Suarez stays, everyone says how he's a reformed character who only USED to do that stuff, then he slaps someone unprovoked and gets a twenty match ban. That's what is going to happen if he stays. Nothing gets up my nose more than the "oh but he's REFORMED" bullshit people pull when they're blinded by affection towards their best players.
 
He has an illness.

That's no insult, that's pure fact. Liverpool are helping him and that doesn't make the club out to be weak, nor does that make them look a disgrace.

This is the thing with the world. Everyone shy's away from a problem because they would rather have someone else deal with it, but the shear fact of the matter is, if this issue he has is continued to be ignored? he'll keep on doing it, regardless of whether or not he is sold.

This is no longer a Football matter, but a human matter and the way them arseholes on TalkSport and other sports channels trying to put pressure on the club and other organizations to make his punishment as harsh as possible, rather than addressing the problem with dignity in seeing he gets therapy and his issue resolved is a ******* disgrace and shows you just how pathetic and ignorant people can be.
 
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He has an illness.

That's no insult, that's pure fact. Liverpool are helping him and that doesn't make the club out to be weak, nor does that make them look a disgrace.

This is the thing with the world. Everyone shy's away from a problem because they would rather have someone else deal with it, but the shear fact of the matter is, if this issue he has is continued to be ignored? he'll keep on doing it, regardless of whether or not he is sold.

This is no longer a Football matter, but a human matter and the way them arseholes on TalkSport and other sports channels trying to put pressure on the club and other organizations to make his punishment as harsh as possible, rather than addressing the problem with dignity in seeing he gets therapy and his issue resolved is a ******* disgrace and shows you just how pathetic and ignorant people can be.

What are you daft? Of course he has an illness, that's the whole ******* point. If you have a mental disorder that causes random attacks of violence, you shouldn't be in a line of work that allows you to legally hurt people. Like a policeman. Or a doctor. Or - guess what - a contact sport.

He can play ping pong or chess, but he shouldn't be allowed on a football pitch.

Jesus.
 
What are you daft? Of course he has an illness, that's the whole ******* point. If you have a mental disorder that causes random attacks of violence, you shouldn't be in a line of work that allows you to legally hurt people. Like a policeman. Or a doctor. Or - guess what - a contact sport.

He can play ping pong or chess, but he shouldn't be allowed on a football pitch.

Jesus.

^ You proved my point about ignorance.
 
He has an illness.

That's no insult, that's pure fact. Liverpool are helping him and that doesn't make the club out to be weak, nor does that make them look a disgrace.

This is the thing with the world. Everyone shy's away from a problem because they would rather have someone else deal with it, but the shear fact of the matter is, if this issue he has is continued to be ignored? he'll keep on doing it, regardless of whether or not he is sold.

This is no longer a Football matter, but a human matter and the way them arseholes on TalkSport and other sports channels trying to put pressure on the club and other organizations to make his punishment as harsh as possible, rather than addressing the problem with dignity in seeing he gets therapy and his issue resolved is a ******* disgrace and shows you just how pathetic and ignorant people can be.

Whether he has an illness or not, he just can't be allowed to get away with it. You can't just assault someone and then expect it to be okay with everyone because you have an illness, not when your job involves contact sports.

If he does have an illness and it is this bad, then he should retire from football and do something that won't endanger his fellow man. And if Liverpool do reckon he has an illness, then it's pure selfishness from them: they're willing to allow a sick man to do something that will end with him assaulting people just because he's really good at the stuff he does when he's not biting people, and is worth a shitload of money.

For what it's worth, I don't think Suarez has an illness, I just think he's a ****. And if that is the case, then Liverpool are perfectly within their rights to keep him playing and under contract. I don't think you can, on any level, say that his 'problem' is being 'ignored': that implies that everyone already knows about it and is purposefully ignoring that information for their own benefit, when in reality the only people who knows if he's actually mentally ill are the doctors that would theoretically check him over. And given there's been not a whisper about it - from a media that makes up the most outlandish stories imaginable - I'd say your prognosis most certainly isn't enough for us to just absolve him from blame because you reckon he has an illness.
 
He has an illness.

That's no insult, that's pure fact. Liverpool are helping him and that doesn't make the club out to be weak, nor does that make them look a disgrace.

This is the thing with the world. Everyone shy's away from a problem because they would rather have someone else deal with it, but the shear fact of the matter is, if this issue he has is continued to be ignored? he'll keep on doing it, regardless of whether or not he is sold.

This is no longer a Football matter, but a human matter and the way them arseholes on TalkSport and other sports channels trying to put pressure on the club and other organizations to make his punishment as harsh as possible, rather than addressing the problem with dignity in seeing he gets therapy and his issue resolved is a ******* disgrace and shows you just how pathetic and ignorant people can be.

That's a pretty weird way of putting it. Do you put a mentally ill patient in a room full of weapons, and then say 'He shouldn't be removed from the room, he should be treated..' That'd be utter foolishness, and you can draw a parallel to this. Nobody is shying away from the problem, you first have to get the patient to the right spot before you begin to treat him. Telling him to play on the football field while continuing to treat him is both foolishness, selfishness and not to mention, risky.

I'm not implying Suarez is mentally ill or anything of the sort, but if he is, then he needs time away from the football pitch and therapy to overcome it.

And yes, I agree with GC, I don't think he has an illness. He could be classified as a sociopath after this (aren't we all?), but no illness as such, just horrible temperament under pressure.
 
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