I'm full of confidence mate. As long as we don't bottle it away first leg like we nearly did yesterday.
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I'm full of confidence mate. As long as we don't bottle it away first leg like we nearly did yesterday.
Sick of reading that Liverpool fans snuck into the United fans area to start the fight. That just didn't happen.
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One of the funniest and most bizarre things I've ever seen. Those young lads had balls of steel. When they got the flag out .....
Are you ******* kidding me UEFA? It's not April 1st yet so what the ****?
Liverpool FC vow to address crowd issues with UEFA after Manchester United disturbances - Liverpool Echo
"Liverpool have also been charged with illicit chanting - something United have somehow avoided in both legs, despite vile chants about the Hillsborough disaster clearly being audible."
Liverpool FC vow to address crowd issues with UEFA after Manchester United disturbances - Liverpool Echo
"Liverpool have also been charged with illicit chanting - something United have somehow avoided in both legs, despite vile chants about the Hillsborough disaster clearly being audible."
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We don't have anyone on UEFA's executive committee like Utd. Why would this latest shambolic disgrace from them be a surprise?
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Although it does look like reading that the ***** who smashed our bus window eventually got arrested so there is that.
Hah yeah I read that and thought of you, but got so caught up in the charges I forgot to mention it.
Anyway, it's not that I should be surprised, but I still am. For some reason I thought even UEFA's incompetence had its limits. Clearly it doesn't. Clearly they're not at all interested in getting rid of this behaviour. If they were, they'd have charged United for those chants after the first game, and then maybe, just maybe, there wouldn't have been any yesterday.
And even if they're not competent enough to do that, at least have the common ******* sense to not charge only one club, whose fans chanted it for what, a couple minutes? In contrast to the huge masses of United fans who were clearly audible even on TV singing that ****, through both games. It's hard to convince myself that it's just down to incompetence. This is adding fuel to the fire of conspiracy claims, and **** yeah UEFA, that's exactly what you need now. You know, considering people have so much ******* confidence in you already.
This is only gonna make matters worse. Expect more such chants, from both sides, the next time they meet. Thanks a lot UEFA, you miserable retarded *****.
Thanks for your contribution to this section of the forum, too bad we can't just censor **** we don't like. But it's ok, I'm sure you'd have found it real amusing if the situation was turned around.
Both clubs got penalised, just accept that and move on... jesus, it's not hard. Both clubs were in the wrong here and will get punished.
Only one club got penalised for illicit chanting. Read the charges... jesus, it's not hard.
So much overreaction. For a record, I find it amusing when someone cries about conspiracy theories, more so when Liverpool fan does it.
But you're making out like Liverpool have been harshly treated whilst focussing on another club.
Does it make your club any more innocent of these charges? Fact is no. UEFA have got it wrong with the charging arguably but you have to accept it that the officials at the Anfield game didn't report any chanting so that is probably what they base it on primarily.
United have been hit with other charges anyway, but Liverpool need to focus on what they actually done wrong rather than trying to act the innocent, this will not prevent this from happening again with an attitude like that.
I'll say once again, United are not at all innocent, but I think what you guys done at Old Trafford over stepped any boundary. Invading the home end, ripping out seats and fights breaking out because of this, that is a way that can start more tragic events happening.
These chants obviously are equally bad in their own right, but unfortunately when you have two big clubs who hate each other, you are never going to stop a minority.
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I couldn't care less, Uefa doesn't surprise me anymore with their decisions - but the charge of illicit chanting against Liverpool rather than both is what's causing the fuss amongst some. Nobody is questioning any of the other charges or disputing them.
It was heard loud and often during both legs from the United end, so therefore should be charged to both clubs
It is what it is, though.
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Can we quit with the OTT rhetoric that 8 or so lads singing and dancing equates to possibly causing a tragedy. That's the second time in less than 24 hours on here.
Some frigging perspective please.
Some frigging perspective please.
Obviously they got that wrong but I don't think constantly dwelling on it will fix what your own club done wrong is my point.
If we are ever to stop stuff like this happening (which we won't because too many fans), we as fans or board members or whatever need to focus on our own club and how WE could of prevented what we done wrong.
But I agree that the UEFA charging was wrong regarding the chanting should be for both clubs, but United have already addressed this and took some responsibility by saying they will speak to fan groups I believe.
I don't have a single objection to the charges against Liverpool. And I'm not making it out like we've been harshly treated at all.
All I'm saying is that United have been extremely lucky, and that the message UEFA sends is 1) they are incompetent beyond comprehension, and 2) they clearly don't give a **** about making an actual effort to stop such chants.
And it doesn't have anything to do with the officials at Anfield not reporting it. Of course they should have, but it was even more audible at OT. Yet it's completely ignored by UEFA. That's what I'm ranting about, because the injustice in those chanting charges is ******* mindblowing.
No one is trying to act the innocent here. But according to UEFA, United are innocent as far as chanting was concerned. Imagine Liverpool chanting about Münich for 180 minutes, a few United fans incapable of biting their lips at the end of the match start chanting about Hillsborough, and Liverpool face no consequences for it while United are charged. You'd be ok with that? Of course you wouldn't.
As for the whole "invading the home end" (which seemed to be about 10-15 people from what I've seen), it's not entirely impossible that was a response to the Hillsborough chants at Anfield or even the banner over M602. And that's not me trying to place the blame over on United supporters, that's me trying to blame UEFA for not taking any of this **** seriously. Of course ultimately the blame lies with the idiots who did these things, but UEFA have a ******* responsibility. And they're ******** all over it.