The Manchester United Thread

smith123 said:
I hear carrick will play in stockings and young will don a bra and stilettos.
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LOL forgot Macheda playing for Cardiff, just scored a good goal beating 2 players then slotting home nicely. Had the talent not sure he really had the belief or the work rate to really push on to the next level.
 
Good day for the loanees today Hernandez scored for real. Zaha looked good for Palace in a cameo and got an assist. Nani scored a cracker for Sporting beating Porto. And Angelo Henriquez just cant stop scoring and bagged another.
 
Looks like we got robbed by Madrid for Ronnie. Has gone to another level this year at this rate will score 80 goals easy in all comps this season. Just banging in Hattrick after hattrick atm.
 
Theatreof Dreams said:
Looks like we got robbed by Madrid for Ronnie. Has gone to another level this year at this rate will score 80 goals easy in all comps this season. Just banging in Hattrick after hattrick atm.
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You're late to the party if you're realising that now =P I was, probably like most of us, one of those that never wanted him sold. Shame he wanted to leave though :\ Could've easily won the Champions League again with him playing for us.
 
Sherkey said:
You're late to the party if you're realising that now =P I was, probably like most of us, one of those that never wanted him sold. Shame he wanted to leave though :\ Could've easily won the Champions League again with him playing for us.
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I don't think we would if he had stayed, especially with our midfield and defence since he has left.
 
Vlaar would not be a poor transfer at all, we can't expect big names (as there isn't many) and we badly need the experience as well.

Did you see the performances LVG got out of him in World-Cup? People were comparing him to Beckenbauer he was that good. Even against the top top players like Messi he did really well.

We can all go oh you know what we should aim higher, but we said last year about Hummels, it didn't happen, no indication at all it will be on the cards again any time soon, Dortmund are a club where when they say no they mean it.

I'd be happy with this transfer anyway, prefer it in January as well as we need him sooner rather than later, things are looking not to bad at the moment, but we're still definitely short in the defensive area.
 
Roonaldo said:
I get your point. I mentioned that time is running out for those 3. The combination of factors mentioned have stifled them. My main gripe is the stability and team building at the back has been very poor especially because it happened during their stages of development. A lot of time has been invested in Evans, Jones was 16m, Smalling 10m + add ons. They were brought in do be the future of the club but that looks like it has failed.

Now we're in transition it's the perfect time to build with them. The pressure of challenging isn't there as the expectancy is top 4 :O.

The problem with signing the likes of Vlaar and Shawcross is even though they are good and equal to / better than what we have currently, it's short term-ism and that's what has got us to where we are now.
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Who's to say Jones won't live up to the potential? Before he was injured... which I admit is a regular thing.... he was great this season. He can still be a quality player.

To me Evans has only ever been a utility player, Smalling is a really good defender but he is not good on the ball when we need some kind of distribution from the back.
 
My mate who is a Villa fan says we would be mad to sign him. As for the last 2 years he has been struggling to manage a reacurring calf problem, even talk he could be out longer than expected due to the problem flairing up in training again. Whats the point of signing an injury prone player when we have enough as it is. Plus he has not played this season which is another reason it makes no sense what so ever. Would rather wait tbh. A good WC don't make a good player, and Villa shipped goals no end last season. Think they have one of the worst records in Europe over last 2 years.
 
zzeezzy said:
Vlaar would not be a poor transfer at all, we can't expect big names (as there isn't many) and we badly need the experience as well.

Did you see the performances LVG got out of him in World-Cup? People were comparing him to Beckenbauer he was that good. Even against the top top players like Messi he did really well.

We can all go oh you know what we should aim higher, but we said last year about Hummels, it didn't happen, no indication at all it will be on the cards again any time soon, Dortmund are a club where when they say no they mean it.

I'd be happy with this transfer anyway, prefer it in January as well as we need him sooner rather than later, things are looking not to bad at the moment, but we're still definitely short in the defensive area.
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He was never top defender, not to mention his injury problems. He had good World cup and decent season at Villa. And he's almost 30. What makes him United material is beyond me. There are better options there.
 
Vanjagl said:
He was never top defender, not to mention his injury problems. He had good World cup and decent season at Villa. And he's almost 30. What makes him United material is beyond me. There are better options there.
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Just looking back now his career has been littered with injuries all the way back to his days in Dutch football. Even couple serious ones. Do not want!
 
Vanjagl said:
He was never top defender, not to mention his injury problems. He had good World cup and decent season at Villa. And he's almost 30. What makes him United material is beyond me. There are better options there.
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If there is a legitimate concern for injury it won't happen anyway. I'm disregarding that factor as I don't know what the situation is really with him.
 
zzeezzy said:
If there is a legitimate concern for injury it won't happen anyway. I'm disregarding that factor as I don't know what the situation is really with him.
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Going on what LVG said in interview dont think we sign a CB till the Summer anyways. In Jan can see us looking at CMs more than anything else.
 
zzeezzy said:
Vlaar would not be a poor transfer at all, we can't expect big names (as there isn't many) and we badly need the experience as well.

Did you see the performances LVG got out of him in World-Cup? People were comparing him to Beckenbauer he was that good. Even against the top top players like Messi he did really well.

We can all go oh you know what we should aim higher, but we said last year about Hummels, it didn't happen, no indication at all it will be on the cards again any time soon, Dortmund are a club where when they say no they mean it.

I'd be happy with this transfer anyway, prefer it in January as well as we need him sooner rather than later, things are looking not to bad at the moment, but we're still definitely short in the defensive area.
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Wasn't it this mentality itself that you were criticizing some time back? That's what got us Ashley Young, btw. Highly short-term thinking, don't want Vlaar. If we're buying, go for the best - go Hummels. If it isn't possible at all (and it isn't as cut and dried as it is made out to be), then there are better options (Subotic and the like). Not Ron Vlaar.
 
Theatreof Dreams said:
I don't think we would if he had stayed, especially with our midfield and defence since he has left.
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No way. It was 2009. We still had Scholes and Giggs in our midfield - Scholes was aging, but he was still pretty **** good. Carrick and Fletcher in their prime. Vidic and Ferdinand hadn't regressed, certainly not to this extent. Evra was still excellent. With Ronaldo's pace and end product, we could surely have done it. We almost got into semis with our current squad (mostly), almost beating Real if it weren't for stupid refereeing decision to send off Nani.
 
Sherkey said:
No way. It was 2009. We still had Scholes and Giggs in our midfield - Scholes was aging, but he was still pretty **** good. Carrick and Fletcher in their prime. Vidic and Ferdinand hadn't regressed, certainly not to this extent. Evra was still excellent. With Ronaldo's pace and end product, we could surely have done it. We almost got into semis with our current squad (mostly), almost beating Real if it weren't for stupid refereeing decision to send off Nani.
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Don't forget the link up play between Roo and Ronnie as well, they had some brilliant moments together
 
hughesman said:
Don't forget the link up play between Roo and Ronnie as well, they had some brilliant moments together
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You mean the second 'Holy Trinity' of Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez? Yeah, I definitely miss that counter-attacking play. It was pure magic at times..
 
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