The Manchester United Thread

[Mike.]

Marketing is such an unquantifiable entity though. How do we calculate how many viewers tuned into United due to Pogba? How do we ascertain how many season ticket members or fans turned up to watc a game due to Pogba? Only thing we know for sure in cold hard numbers is merchandise sales which long enough will claw back significant money for Pogba but I doubt it will reach €130m

Its very much quanitifiable. You are looking at shirt sales, sponsorships. Overall drive in numbers, seasons tickets, image rights, tours. These things are tracked, thats why marketing is the massive business today, and why image rights are so important.

 

[Mike.]

Its genuinely incredible how flush with cash every English club is now. I have a feeling sums of 60-70m will be the new normal for good players soon enough.

And United were pretty flush before the TV deal.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Gianluca Di Marzio– Verified account ‏@DiMarzio

@MysteriouzR_ what i say from days. United agreed personal terms with Pogba and his agent, not yet with Juve. Bid expected on Monday. Madrid officially have ended interest.
6:58 am - 10 Jul 2016
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[Mike.]

People don't realise Madrid often have to sell to buy. They havent done so yet. They are either unwilling or unable to sell of James and Morata to fund Pogba.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Exactly Mike. Especially with there transfer ban coming up they had to be careful of how many players to sell. They have to plan ahead and strengthen other areas imo. It's still huge that we managed to keep DDG and land Pogba. Mou has made a huge difference no matter what anyone says. Yes we may have huge funds available but I doubt we would of landed Zlatan, Pogba or Mkytarian with LVG here despite the funds.

 

[Mike.]

It's not over till he signs, but the lack of Pogba spin in Madrid friendly papers is telling. But more importantly, Juve need to accept a bid first.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Burkart signing confirmed
Another academy signing confirmed. Swiss youth international Nishan Burkart is 16.

“I’m taking a relaxed approach to it all,” he said. “If it doesn’t work out with Manchester United, the excellent training will still provide a fantastic foundation for launching a career at another club.”

 

[Mike.]

Pogba never made sense for Madrid for me. Get Kante in behind Modric and Kroos.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

It's not over till he signs, but the lack of Pogba spin in Madrid friendly papers is telling. But more importantly, Juve need to accept a bid first.

Agree. Don't know if true or not but there's a lot of Juve fans saying that a reporter from La Stampa has tweeted Juve have already set there price, before a bid tomorrow.

 

[Mike.]

Agree. Don't know if true or not but there's a lot of Juve fans saying that a reporter from La Stampa has tweeted Juve have already set there price, before a bid tomorrow.

I think there is a lot of talk going on, and everyone is desperate to have that final of news. Nothing matters now till United (or Madrid) make an official bid. Everything else is just noise.

 

[Mike.]

Pogba - Matuidi double pivot tonight.

 

[Subtle]

Its very much quanitifiable. You are looking at shirt sales, sponsorships. Overall drive in numbers, seasons tickets, image rights, tours. These things are tracked, thats why marketing is the massive business today, and why image rights are so important.

You're both sort of right really. In theoretical terms, Alc is right in that you can't assign a value to things like prestige and statement of intent and look at how much that has generated for United. That's a bit of a correlation causation thing.

Thing is, that's exactly how it works in reality exactly because you can't measure it. Pretty much every marketing department works on implied value and a huge base of assumptions.

Re: Pogba, signing him would only boost the value of the club. Them being on the stock market won't change the fact that United have acquired a massively marketable asset for a rate they can afford. That's what people don't seem to get, it's all relative. It's insane money, but if you just look at United's raw figures, it's the equivalent of other clubs spending a **** of a lot less.

 

[Mike.]

You're both sort of right really. In theoretical terms, Alc is right in that you can't assign a value to things like prestige and statement of intent and look at how much that has generated for United. That's a bit of a correlation causation thing.

Thing is, that's exactly how it works in reality exactly because you can't measure it. Pretty much every marketing department works on implied value and a huge base of assumptions.

Re: Pogba, signing him would only boost the value of the club. Them being on the stock market won't change the fact that United have acquired a massively marketable asset for a rate they can afford. That's what people don't seem to get, it's all relative. It's insane money, but if you just look at United's raw figures, it's the equivalent of other clubs spending a **** of a lot less.

Manchester United is the only club in the world where the numbers thrown around make sense, on and off the pitch

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Lol Pogba mum just said on French channel TF1 that she will happily move back to Manchester when Pogba does. Lol WTF ))

 

[Theatre of dreams]

#Gianluca Cancaro: "Pogba will fly to Manchester next tuesday". Shed loads of Juve fans posting this on there main forum. He's just confirmed this on a live football chat show. They swear he is 100% reliable on all things Juve.

 

[kitchin75]

#Gianluca Cancaro: "Pogba will fly to Manchester next tuesday". Shed loads of Juve fans posting this on there main forum. He's just confirmed this on a live football chat show. They swear he is 100% reliable on all things Juve.

if thay win the final dont think any 1 will see him for while

 

[Mike.]

#Gianluca Cancaro: "Pogba will fly to Manchester next tuesday". Shed loads of Juve fans posting this on there main forum. He's just confirmed this on a live football chat show. They swear he is 100% reliable on all things Juve.

Doesn't mean anything right now. Not much point on reporting any more news on Pogba now.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

From Juve forum



Gianfiga Dellaminchia,Nicola Pompino,Cazzo de Paula(J-Channel)...are saying that this is happening Pogba is gone!

 

[Mike.]

We're at the point where he's going to join imminently or not. I'll be amazed if Pogba does anything in the next 48 hours if they win. United havent even had a bid accepted, though everything else seems agreed, so until that happens, there is still no deal.

 

[Legend Incredible]

Guys, I've finally built up the courage to say this







Pogba is overrated.

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