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Mainoo offers nothing in these games hopefully Eriksen comes on again. We are also desperate for WBs!
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Would you sell him and Garnacho to have funds to spend this summer? Mainoo has regressed heavily for me this season, feels like he's put on too much muscle mass or maybe that's just his body type but every time I watch him it's like his lumbering across the pitch.
 
dilakh2 said:
Would you sell him and Garnacho to have funds to spend this summer?
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Yes.
I'll only be happy with a control - alt - delete for this bunch. No point patching the team up.
They are s.hite.
Not up to PL standards at all.
 
dilakh2 said:
Would you sell him and Garnacho to have funds to spend this summer? Mainoo has regressed heavily for me this season, feels like he's put on too much muscle mass or maybe that's just his body type but every time I watch him it's like his lumbering across the pitch.
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I would sell Garnacho for the simple fact he seems to have issues up top on and off the pitch and doesn’t suit the system at all. I would keep Mainoo he’s a top player but he’s young and having a bad season after a good one. I think that’s aloud. Plus he’s had a couple of injuries. Funds won’t be an issue for the summer.
 
Anthony said:
Yes.
I'll only be happy with a control - alt - delete for this bunch. No point patching the team up.
They are s.hite.
Not up to PL standards at all.
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Hargreaves spitting facts! Then to top it off Ashworth decided he should get another season after how last seasons league form was 🤦🏻‍♂️


Owen Hargreaves:

"It goes back to recruitment... Ten Hag spent £620m, and there's not many of those players that would start for another top side.

"Brighton have SIX players in that starting XI that would start for Man Utd. That should never happen."
 
European Football is not going to happen next season (unless some miracle occurs in the two cup competitions) which dare I say will actually be a good thing there is no God given right for the club to play the best in Europe the players don't deserve it.

There needs to be some sort of reset but to be fair it ain't going to happen until someone gets rid of the ego lead player culture. The Glazer boys have created this situation with their policy of signing 'big' names, signing players who don't deserve them on to new contracts to 'protect transfer value',selecting managers who are either to egoastic or clearly not strong enough mentally to solve the issue and most importantly using the club as a cash cow.

It will be interesting to see how long they hang round if the source of thier income dries up which will be the case if the current situation continues, PSR has brought into focus the real state of affairs, Sir Jim is trying to put the club back on a more sensible footing but I doubt even he realised the true situation until it was too late.
 
woolly said:
European Football is not going to happen next season (unless some miracle occurs in the two cup competitions) which dare I say will actually be a good thing there is no God given right for the club to play the best in Europe the players don't deserve it.

There needs to be some sort of reset but to be fair it ain't going to happen until someone gets rid of the ego lead player culture. The Glazer boys have created this situation with their policy of signing 'big' names, signing players who don't deserve them on to new contracts to 'protect transfer value',selecting managers who are either to egoastic or clearly not strong enough mentally to solve the issue and most importantly using the club as a cash cow.

It will be interesting to see how long they hang round if the source of thier income dries up which will be the case if the current situation continues, PSR has brought into focus the real state of affairs, Sir Jim is trying to put the club back on a more sensible footing but I doubt even he realised the true situation until it was too late.
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Sir Jim who has not only done the exact same and added to the issues. But who has created a massive division and disconnect between the supporters? Bringing around booing rarely heard at Utd. Sir Jim who kept the Glazers in place to start with for his own vanity project?

That Sir Jim?
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
Sir Jim who has not only done the exact same and added to the issues. But who has created a massive division and disconnect between the supporters? Bringing around booing rarely heard at Utd. Sir Jim who kept the Glazers in place to start with for his own vanity project?

That Sir Jim?
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So you think running the club with a bloated workforce is good business! Even you said yourself it was a joke the amount of staff the club had.

Yes he has taken away some 'piviledges' which have upset people yet you don't become a billionaire without upsetting a few people along the way.

Yes he has been heavy handed at times but things needed to change. The club is in a terrible state but that isn't the fault of Sir Jim (personally I felt he was a mug to even negoitiate with the Glazers for the share he got but that's by the by). If anything he has finally laid bare the true status of the club which had been papered over by the 'noodle deals' of Woodward et al.

Too many people associated with the club (fans included) have been ignoring the facts, loyalty strangely enough does not pay bills, sometimes being cruel in the short term brings long term benefits. Better a few upset workers and fans than no club which would probably have been the case (and may well still be) if changes weren't made. The debt is spiralling and if the club isn't careful it will go the way of Blackpool, Burnley, and several other clubs (including Citeh prior to the oil money) and become a former big name.

In an ideal world the Qatari bid would have won, the club would have been free of debt and the deadwood would be gone this didn't happen instead the Spams are still milking the club whilst letting someone else take the flack for trying to sort out the problems they created. If you can't see this with your rose coloured socialist Scouse specs then how do you expect anyone else to.
 
Agree @woolly mate 👍🏼 blaming SJR for the booing at OT is laughable also. Ive been at OT many times over the years and there’s always been pockets of booing even large parts of the crowd booing. But it’s definitely gotten worse nothing to do with SJR.

Fans have just genuinely gotten fed up with a team full of players that simply are not good enough or can’t be arsed.

Whatever fans/people think of the way SJR is doing things rightly or wrongly. Least he’s trying to get things done investing into the club. Only time will tell if it works or not.

So far he’s done stuff we don’t agree with but it’s most probably necessary all the little horrible cuts will likely end up making a big difference in the long run to the overall running of the club. But at the same time he’s done/doing a fair bit of good also.

Yes there will be mistakes along the way I’m sure, nothings a sure thing in football/ sports he just needs to learn keep them to a minimal and rectify them asap.
 
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On the footy side of things.
I think we’re confident we are not going to get relegated. So we are going to run a lean squad for the rest of the season and look to save a good £10m-£30m in wages (Rashford, Antony, Casemiro in an ideal world) and maybe sell the likes of Garnacho to raise another £50m+ on top of that.

Then if we can shift more in the summer and with a few of the free transfers coming off the wage bill we should actually be in quite a solid position going forward with a lean squad ready to be added to in the key positions and in all likelihood sadly no European football unless by some minor miracle we win the Europa of FA Cup. which should give Amorim some really quality time on the training pitch to implement his ideas.
 
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woolly said:
So you think running the club with a bloated workforce is good business! Even you said yourself it was a joke the amount of staff the club had.

Yes he has taken away some 'piviledges' which have upset people yet you don't become a billionaire without upsetting a few people along the way.

Yes he has been heavy handed at times but things needed to change. The club is in a terrible state but that isn't the fault of Sir Jim (personally I felt he was a mug to even negoitiate with the Glazers for the share he got but that's by the by). If anything he has finally laid bare the true status of the club which had been papered over by the 'noodle deals' of Woodward et al.

Too many people associated with the club (fans included) have been ignoring the facts, loyalty strangely enough does not pay bills, sometimes being cruel in the short term brings long term benefits. Better a few upset workers and fans than no club which would probably have been the case (and may well still be) if changes weren't made. The debt is spiralling and if the club isn't careful it will go the way of Blackpool, Burnley, and several other clubs (including Citeh prior to the oil money) and become a former big name.

In an ideal world the Qatari bid would have won, the club would have been free of debt and the deadwood would be gone this didn't happen instead the Spams are still milking the club whilst letting someone else take the flack for trying to sort out the problems they created. If you can't see this with your rose coloured socialist Scouse specs then how do you expect anyone else to.
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Sound with him paying big transfer fees and wages on utter *****, extending a manager he bought that ***** for and having to pay him off even more, the same with a SD aye? Tell me again how that differs to the Glazers?

Cry me a F river about absolute pittance from normal people having to be shaved off. The £50 steward of the match bonus will make a big dent in the debt. I see your point. The richest man in the land has to hit the peasants,

Seriously mate, GTF defending the despicable S/house and INEOS. Who have been no different from the Glazers.

I feel for Amorim and the genuine Utd fans who are having to deal with the repercussions of his lies.
 
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Scouseinthehouse said:
Sound with him paying big transfer fees and wages on utter *****, extending a manager he bought that ***** for and having to pay him off even more, the same with a SD aye? Tell me again how that differs to the Glazers?

Cry me a F river about absolute pittance from normal people having to be shaved off. The £50 steward of the match bonus will make a big dent in the debt. I see your point. The richest man in the land has to hit the peasants,

Seriously mate, GTF defending the despicable S/house and INEOS. Who have been no different from the Glazers.

I feel for Amorim and the genuine Utd fans who are having to deal with the repercussions of his lies.
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To quote Benjamin Franklin "For the want of a nail the shoe was lost, for the want of a shoe the horse was lost, for the want of a horse the rider was lost, for want of a rider the battle was lost, for want of a battle a kingdom was lost, and all for the want of a nail." A £50 bonus may not seem to be much but coupled with the other cuts it soon mounts up. The steward whingung about a lost bonus is the least of the worries, if the club goes down the pan there will be no need for a steward which would be a greater travisity for the so call 'little people'. Think of the bigger picture for once, and accept that the little people have to suffer occasionally for the whole to survive.
 
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