Welbeck was different class infront of goal yesterday, still got a lot to improve on though. Pretty much his fault for Swansea's goal trying to play his way out of trouble outside his own area but he'll learn from it
Was so impressed with Ferdinand and Vidic's display in defence yesterday, one of the very best defensive partnerships in Europe.
Once Welbeck regularly starts adding goals to his game..... he's going to be an absolute beast of a player.
Would be just a better player IMO. Don't overrate him because he is English and comes from club's academy. A number of technical abilities needs to be improved in order for him to qualify for that term. Currently when he is in possession he looks so very clumsy. When a real beast of a player is in possession (such as van Persie, Rooney) you can feel that.
Clumsy in possession? He usually retains possession extremely well, apart from that goal we conceded yesterday which is very unlike him.
It's not just that anyway, it's what he adds to the team that goes un-noticed by so many fans who think a 'great' player has to just score goals in his position.
Clumsy in possession? He usually retains possession extremely well, apart from that goal we conceded yesterday which is very unlike him.
It's not just that anyway, it's what he adds to the team that goes un-noticed by so many fans who think a 'great' player has to just score goals in his position.
I am not talking about holding up the ball which requires mostly physical attributes anyway. I am talking about his ball control and his good ideas flair-wise but poor execution technically. His flicks and tricks usually lead to us losing the ball and sometimes even facepalms from all of my friends who are watching the current United's game.
Also I am talking about the fact that when he is in possession facing the goal he either makes short passes which don't lead to a goal threat or makes an unsuccessful dribble.
I do appreciate his work rate and I wouldn't care for his lack of goals (last season) if at least he was able to pick a through ball now and then. Since last season he wasn't able to do either of those things so that is why I rate him poorly. I think it is not acceptable for one of the world's top clubs to play a forward player (ST, AM(CLR), M(LR)) with so poor technical abilities.
Welbeck actually loses the ball very rarely.
He also is very good at doing things with his first touch, his movement is excellent, he retains possession extremely well.
His technical ability is very good, its his attacking positioning that needs work, and pushing higher up the pitch. It's not that he cant shoot, its that he doesn't shoot enough. He's taken 5 shots this season for England and United, hit the target 4 times, and scored 3 goals.
As for dribbling, only Nani Valencia and Evra dribble more successfully than him. We don't actually dribble much as a side.
2. As for losing the ball - you need to read more carefully what I've said. Namely that his poor ball control leads to us losing possession. I haven't said he loses the ballbecause of that too often. The point being he doesn't need to try tricks and magic stuff he just can't do. Also, I am extremely surprised to hear a player capable of these (below) has "very good technical ability":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVhKLOGcfr0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAH966l2zjc
Yesterday there was another flick he tried while being next to the left touch line and failed as well but can't find a video for it.
4. As for goals you're bringing up his goal tally for just a few games, I am talking about his whole last season.
5. You still haven't said anything about his passing and crossing, simply because it doesn't suit you... what about that?
1. Relatively good first touch when his chest is involved, not so good when he is trying to bring the ball under control just with a foot.
2. As for losing the ball - you need to read more carefully what I've said. Namely that his poor ball control leads to us losing possession. I haven't said he loses the ballbecause of that too often. The point being he doesn't need to try tricks and magic stuff he just can't do. Also, I am extremely surprised to hear a player capable of these (below) has "very good technical ability":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVhKLOGcfr0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAH966l2zjc
Yesterday there was another flick he tried while being next to the left touch line and failed as well but can't find a video for it.
3. As for his dribbling - yeah, van Persie and Kagawa are much worse... (sarcasm). Knocking the ball past the opponent is not dribbling (meaning Valencia too isn't a dribbler).
4. As for goals you're bringing up his goal tally for just a few games, I am talking about his whole last season.
5. You still haven't said anything about his passing and crossing, simply because it doesn't suit you... what about that?
Cristiano Ronaldo trying a Lionel Messi trick and fell down--- VERY FUNNY - YouTube Ronaldo is a **** dribbler then.
As is Messi. Lionel Messi FAIL - Copa America 2011 - YouTube
The original point was that when he adds more goals he'll be a beast of a player. What's the point of bringing this up in reply? And he was played out of position for the whole of last season. He's shown for England he's capable when he has chances.
Why are we judging a striker on his crossing? And he rarely gives the ball away passing it, so again, your point?
It's really sad how our fans like to go on about how good our youth system is, and then when we have a local lad with fantastic potential, he's constantly slated by said fans.
Fine guys, continue to be deluded and be happy with Welbeck when there were really technically proficient players like Berba and still are real goalscorers like Chicharito in the club. The first left and the latter will be leaving the club I believe. Not relied on just because they're not English... I am the fan of the club and football, not the English nationality. Speaking of which - it's obvious in the World and European championships what England and it's massively overrated players (like Welbeck) are really capable of.
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You have a go at Mike for ignoring one of your points, and then you get the face on when people challenge you back?
It's part of the club's identity that we bring through homegrown players. And I don't know where you're from, but myself, as an Englishman, I like seeing our players coming through and doing well.
And Chicharito's an amazing goalscorer, but every other aspect of his game is weaker than Danny (though he was showing improvement last year), and I was a big fan of Berba too, but we basically replaced him with RVP, which is hard to complain about.
Fine guys, continue to be deluded and be happy with Welbeck when there were really technically proficient players like Berba and still are real goalscorers like Chicharito in the club. The first left and the latter will be leaving the club I believe. Not relied on just because they're not English... I am the fan of the club and football, not the English nationality. Speaking of which - it's obvious in the World and European championships what England and it's massively overrated players (like Welbeck) are really capable of.
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Bit of a ridiculous thing to say really, you don't want local lads in your team?