The Manchester United Thread

Good win for Liverpool. Neither team played particularly well really, but well on getting the result.

sunilvk7, your posts are as predictable and laughable as always. Keep it up.

You are boring as predicted.
 
the three united fans were made up danny, see liverpool thread

Then whoever made it up, should be ashamed. Also, it's clear to see what that Liverpool fan is doing, he should be banned.
 
I rather have 10 seasons of proven ability rather than someone who will 'potentially' give me 20 seasons of goalkeeping for 18 million

In a footballing sense that is

In a fiscal sense, its a gamble as well

And United have a proven track record of bringing out the best of players potential. De Gea has already proven his ability. He's moved to a more physical league, he still needs to bulk up and learn the league. For the majority of signings that move to England, the cliche that 'they need a year to adapt' to the league gets thrown out time and time again as an excuse for poor performances, this is more applicable than ever to De Gea, yet all he ever gets is abuse and the media spotlight on his mistakes, and nothing on what he does well - and he has done plenty well this season as well. How many other goalkeepers move from Spain at 20 to play first team football for United?

There seems to be an obsession with the media to hound De Gea and lend him no support. IIRC, mike. posted a stat a few weeks ago where Hart had statistically made about the same errors as De Gea this season - would you ever guess it from media coverage? Who else would we have signed? Neuer? Stekelenburg? Neuer has made a couple of horrific errors for Bayern this season already, Stekelenburg I'm not sure about but I'm fairly positive he will have. Who are the other top keepers in the league? Hart? Reina? Chesney? All have made significant errors that have cost their teams this season, yet it is De Gea who will have an entire post-match dedicated to him.

He also has vision issues and needs laser surgery to correct long sightedness at the end of the season, and has barely played with the two experienced centre halves in Vidic and Ferdinand. When he played with Vidic the only time he conceded in 5 or so games was that penalty to Newcastle. Why does no one mention that? Lindegaard too has made mistakes this season, in far less minutes played, yet he's our saviour?

De Gea does have proven ability. Ask anyone in the Spanish media for their opinion on him who have watched him for the past two seasons.
 
Famous atmosphere and fan/s, making monkey gesture.

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I regularly pull that face when I have an itch.

As do I.

Although, I was joking, as you can see in my response to Mike, it's clear to see what he is doing, and should be banned.
 
And United have a proven track record of bringing out the best of players potential. De Gea has already proven his ability. He's moved to a more physical league, he still needs to bulk up and learn the league. For the majority of signings that move to England, the cliche that 'they need a year to adapt' to the league gets thrown out time and time again as an excuse for poor performances, this is more applicable than ever to De Gea, yet all he ever gets is abuse and the media spotlight on his mistakes, and nothing on what he does well - and he has done plenty well this season as well. How many other goalkeepers move from Spain at 20 to play first team football for United?

There seems to be an obsession with the media to hound De Gea and lend him no support. IIRC, mike. posted a stat a few weeks ago where Hart had statistically made about the same errors as De Gea this season - would you ever guess it from media coverage? Who else would we have signed? Neuer? Stekelenburg? Neuer has made a couple of horrific errors for Bayern this season already, Stekelenburg I'm not sure about but I'm fairly positive he will have. Who are the other top keepers in the league? Hart? Reina? Chesney? All have made significant errors that have cost their teams this season, yet it is De Gea who will have an entire post-match dedicated to him.

He also has vision issues and needs laser surgery to correct long sightedness at the end of the season, and has barely played with the two experienced centre halves in Vidic and Ferdinand. When he played with Vidic the only time he conceded in 5 or so games was that penalty to Newcastle. Why does no one mention that? Lindegaard too has made mistakes this season, in far less minutes played, yet he's our saviour?

De Gea does have proven ability. Ask anyone in the Spanish media for their opinion on him who have watched him for the past two seasons.


If he has proven ability then why cant he replicate that in the EPL, then surely it is Ferguson's fault for not giving him more chances, I agree with what you said then the only way to resolve the issue is to give De Gea as many chances as to adapt to the league which Ferguson has not done by rotating him with Lindegaard

Yes media has an obsession to hound players, De Gea and Torres just to name a few, not forgetting that both of these players performances are hardly helping tbh

And my post was basically saying that the idea that buying De Gea over someone more experienced makes more fiscal sense is completely wrong

De Gea has potential, yes he has done well in the La Liga but that does not mean he will do as well in the EPL as well.. its gamble

Plus if he has sight issues, why did it not trouble him when he was at At Madrid, there he was very good and he played behind a worse defence at At Madrid

And his situation is similar to that of Lukaku, proven player in a different league and Chelsea justs plashed 20 million purely on potential because the stles of football in the Jupler League and EPL are different hence we dont know if he will be able to replicate his form in Belgium here, we are taking a gamble on him doing so
 
If he has proven ability then why cant he replicate that in the EPL

It's his first season in the EPL and for a new club, remember Berbatov's first season for United? And didn't he win the golden boot last year?

He has ability, he just isn't showing it, currently.
 
It's his first season in the EPL and for a new club, remember Berbatov's first season for United? And didn't he win the golden boot last year?

He has ability, he just isn't showing it, currently.

Peter Schmeichel did exactly the same thing in his first season
 
Does anyone know what minute this was in? I've got Sky+ and I'll have a look back at it. I'll even upload the video to youtube. It'll clear things up whether he was doing the monkey gesture or not..
 
If he has proven ability then why cant he replicate that in the EPL, then surely it is Ferguson's fault for not giving him more chances, I agree with what you said then the only way to resolve the issue is to give De Gea as many chances as to adapt to the league which Ferguson has not done by rotating him with Lindegaard
To give him a break from the relentless media pressure?
And my post was basically saying that the idea that buying De Gea over someone more experienced makes more fiscal sense is completely wrong
No it isn't wrong. There's an appreciable probability of failure in any transfer. It's not significantly greater in De Gea's case, the only way it wouldn't make fiscal sense is if it fails, applying probability of failure and it's still fiscally smarter. And footballing sense, since the end product should be a superior player for a superior length of time.
De Gea has potential, yes he has done well in the La Liga but that does not mean he will do as well in the EPL as well.. its gamble
We couldn't have realistically signed anyone from the EPL, so it was a gamble whoever we signed if you want to phrase it like that.
Plus if he has sight issues, why did it not trouble him when he was at At Madrid, there he was very good and he played behind a worse defence at At Madrid
He did, he was meant to have surgery but they pulled out of it so he didn't have it mid-season. You don't think playing behind the best centre back in the world and captain would aid his development and learning of the league?
And his situation is similar to that of Lukaku, proven player in a different league and Chelsea justs plashed 20 million purely on potential because the stles of football in the Jupler League and EPL are different hence we dont know if he will be able to replicate his form in Belgium here, we are taking a gamble on him doing so

You're taking a gamble on any transfer, even inter-league ones.
 
Does anyone know what minute this was in? I've got Sky+ and I'll have a look back at it. I'll even upload the video to youtube. It'll clear things up whether he was doing the monkey gesture or not..

He is. He should be banned. Simple.
 
Peter Schmeichel did exactly the same thing in his first season

Exactly. What was Peter Schmeichel doing when he was 20?

For the first goal where were the defenders jumping with Agger and co.

On the 2nd, Evans missed his header, Pat was caught out.

Yes Dave was at fault too but the blame is shared
 
Both links says he was sold.
"signed for German side Hannover 96 on a two-year deal."
Don't know many loan deals for 2 years tbh ;)

Spain, Portugal, Germany and Argentina (Among others, but those are the ones I remember) allow for 2-year loan deals. For instance, Jeffrey Bruma is on a 2-year long loan at HSV, with Chelsea having a clause that allows them to recall him in the sumer if they need so.
 
A game where I thought United had the best of it overall, although Liverpool's substitution to remove Carragher and shore up the midfield in the final period of the second half gave them control of the match for me.

A draw probably would have been a fair result, but Liverpool got a result they should be delighted with, after knocking out City earlier in the week.

As for the comments about Liverpool scoring via Andy Carroll and a route 1 goal... imagine that, lumping the ball to the striker who is taller than everyone else and hoping for a nod on. What were they thinking? :$
 
Disappointed obviously but I'll soon get over it if we win the league game in a couple of weeks. If Liverpool end the season as League/FA Cup winners and Man Utd as League champions then I'm more than happy with that
 
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