The Manchester United Thread

Boo hoo, you got a big team in final 16.



Don't mind if I do.

This years group; Galatasary, Cluj, and Braga. Hardly the group of Death.

Last years group; Benfica, Basel, and Giejguhuah. They also surprisingly finished 3rd in this group.

Should I go on?

Please go on..

You should learn about seeding and how it works. Most top teams get easy draws in group stages with one good team and 2 average teams from smaller leagues.
 
Yes, since you picked 2 years out of 15...

Like i said look at every group and knockout for the last 15 years, instead of trying to be selective. You'll be surprised who we have come up against.

It wasn't selective, it was the last 2 years. I'll go more into it when I get in.
 
This is something stupid you are bickering on about, jesus it is based on seeding in the Champions League, United obviously therefore have a much greater chance of being in an easy group compared to City for example who have only just come into it and haven't even got past the group stages yet. So in all likelyhood they may very well have a hard group next season.

Real Madrid have higher seeds than United. Did you see there group this year?
 
Please go on..

You should learn about seeding and how it works. Most top teams get easy draws in group stages with one good team and 2 average teams from smaller leagues.

That not withstanding, We've generally had some pretty tasty groups, and some tough knockouts
 
It wasn't selective, it was the last 2 years. I'll go more into it when I get in.

I've already seen the last 15 years, the links i provided above show our groups and knockouts.

Like I said you'd be surprised at who we play.

The season before the two you posted: Valencia Rangers Bursaspor

Followed by Marsellie, Schalke,Chelsea Barca.

The year before: Besiktas, Wolsburg, CSKA Moscow, followed by AC Milan and Bayern Munich

And before that: AalBorg, Celtic, Villarreal, followed by Inter, Porto, Arsenal, Barca

And when we last won it: Dinamo Kiev, Roma, Lisbon, followed by Lyon, Roma, Barca, Chelsea

Have a look through the links
 
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Real Madrid have higher seeds than United. Did you see there group this year?

We could have drawn against Dortmund. It's not United's fault that City are in Pot 3 or 4. Ajax are hardly tough team. So we avoided only Dortmund. Big ******* deal.
 
That not withstanding, We've generally had some pretty tasty groups, and some tough knockouts

Liked our 2007-08 run. Roma, Sporing Lisbon, Dynamo in Group stage, Lyon, Roma, Barca in KOs. It was great CL.
 
Hi guys, I'm here for the retarded United conspiracies.

I think Rooney is a member of the mafia and fixes games.
 
Hi guys, I'm here for the retarded United conspiracies.

I think Rooney is a member of the mafia and fixes games.
Well, Howard Webb is going to be ref for the game. So you make valid point. Rooney being member of mafia is the only way Webb could get this game.
 
Well, Howard Webb is going to be ref for the game. So you make valid point. Rooney being member of mafia is the only way Webb could get this game.

I cant wait for the number of conspiracies that will pop. I may have to follow Rawk Meltdown for the weekend.
 
I've already seen the last 15 years, the links i provided above show our groups and knockouts.

Like I said you'd be surprised at who we play.

The season before the two you posted: Valencia Rangers Bursaspor

Followed by Marsellie, Schalke,Chelsea Barca.

The year before: Besiktas, Wolsburg, CSKA Moscow, followed by AC Milan and Bayern Munich

And before that: AalBorg, Celtic, Villarreal, followed by Inter, Porto, Arsenal, Barca

And when we last won it: Dinamo Kiev, Roma, Lisbon, followed by Lyon, Roma, Barca, Chelsea

Have a look through the links

*quarter-finals and don't count, you've got to face a big team some time mate.
 
I cant wait for the number of conspiracies that will pop. I may have to follow Rawk Meltdown for the weekend.
Some time ago, I wanted to explain people that there's no conspiracies at all. I lost so much time doing that. I find it funny and adorable now.
 
*quarter-finals and don't count, you've got to face a big team some time mate.

Doesnt take away from my point when you look at the groups, even with our number one seeding, and then, Marseille, Milan, Inter, Lyon all last 16, hardly small fry.
 
*quarter-finals and don't count, you've got to face a big team some time mate.

Let's look at the seeds for this year.

Pot 1: Chelsea, Barca, United, Bayern, Madrid (Same seed as us you see, not higher), Arsenal, Porto, Milan.

Pot 2: Valencia, Benfica, Shakhtar, Zenit, Schalke, City, Braga, Dynamo.

Pot 3: Olympiakos, Ajax, Anderlecht, Juventus, Spartak, PSG, Lille, Galatasaraay.

Pot 4: Celtic, Dortmund, BATE, Dinamo, Cluj, Malaga, Montpellier, Nordsjaelland.

So, from pot 2, I would call Valencia, Shakhtar, Schalke and City as teams you'd want to avoid. We can't draw City, and so we only had a 3/7 chance of drawing a 'good' team from pot 2, rather than the usual 1/2 chance when City weren't in the CL. 50% odds generally backup what happens, in that you usually draw a 'good' team from pot 2.

From pot 3, I'd call Juve and PSG as teams you wouldn't want to draw, giving a 25% chance of drawing a difficult team from pot 3. From pot 4, Dortmund and Malaga, 25% again. So, the odds for United drawing a group of death is equal to 0.027, and yet you're convinced it's a conspiracy?
 
*quarter-finals and don't count, you've got to face a big team some time mate.

Do you understand how the champions league works? United are a seed 1 so they are going to be the biggest team in their own group about 90% of the time. Real only had such a tough group this year because of how the seed system works. Anyway, the champions League draw is completely random so why on earth are you complaining about what teams we get in our groups? It's not our fault if you don't think the teams are big enough. Anyway, we lost two games in our group! 1 against CFR Cluj and the other we lost to Galatasaray. So that is 2/3 of our group we lost too. Don't moan and preach about conspiracy theories when you have no proof and just believe them because you can. Also even if they are true it's not like United have won the Champions League or another trophy more than once in the past except the League cup which we only have once twice in the past 6 years.
 
*quarter-finals and don't count, you've got to face a big team some time mate.

Let's look at the seeds for this year.

Pot 1: Chelsea, Barca, United, Bayern, Madrid (Same seed as us you see, not higher), Arsenal, Porto, Milan.

Pot 2: Valencia, Benfica, Shakhtar, Zenit, Schalke, City, Braga, Dynamo.

Pot 3: Olympiakos, Ajax, Anderlecht, Juventus, Spartak, PSG, Lille, Galatasaraay.

Pot 4: Celtic, Dortmund, BATE, Dinamo, Cluj, Malaga, Montpellier, Nordsjaelland.

So, from pot 2, I would call Valencia, Shakhtar, Schalke and City as teams you'd want to avoid. We can't draw City, and so we only had a 3/7 chance of drawing a 'good' team from pot 2, rather than the usual 1/2 chance when City weren't in the CL. 50% odds generally backup what happens, in that you usually draw a 'good' team from pot 2.

From pot 3, I'd call Juve and PSG as teams you wouldn't want to draw, giving a 25% chance of drawing a difficult team from pot 3. From pot 4, Dortmund and Malaga, 25% again. So, the odds for United drawing a group of death is equal to 0.027, and yet you're convinced it's a conspiracy?

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