The Manchester United Thread

I really, REALLY want Chelsea to sign Guarin. Such overrated, well he's not even overrated now, people finally figured out he's mediocre with few nice goals. He doesn't work hard, he's worse tackler than Scholes was and he's generally inconsistent. Why would anyone want to pay even a close to 18m is beyond my reach. I would rather see Cleverley and Fellaini in the squad because while Cleverley is also inconsistent as ****, he somehow fits in our 'fantasy gamestyle' and Fellaini is good footballer who had **** time settling in due United fans ( and me, god I hated that transfer so much), injuries and simply not fitting in the system. If Chelsea got him, then he would probably excel.

The price being bandied about is 12-13m if i am not wrong ... There are rumours he is demanding a significant pay rise thought but none from any credible source
 
Even if it's for an unreasonably high price when there are other options to explore? Probably not.
 
Guarin for 5 Million? No. He is a waste of whatever wages we pay.
 
See there you go, you did end up playing the 'I have watched him more than you' card ... You have your own opinion on a player and that's fine with me but don't try to force it onto me with the premises that I don't watch him at all/enough

Your Fletcher point makes no sense at all. If a player who has been crocked for the better part of 2 seasons comes in and starts looking like your best midfielder then that pretty much says it all about the state of your midfield

Rooney was a more plausible target than Fabregas considering he actually wanted to leave and Jose is the sort of manager who most players would like to play for. Going after Fabregas was hilarious in the extreme considering he never wanted to leave and Moyes just isn't a big name to attract players considering his biggest qualifications in getting the United job seem to be being Scottish and managing to somewhat overachieve at a mid-tier club

When someone says some average player is better than any ManUtd CM then I ehave waxpect that person to tched the player for few games to make a solid opinion, if not whatever you say is hard to take it seriously.

Fletcher point makes no sense to you and I don't expect it to make any sense to you. But I'm sure most ManUtd fans would agree that Fletcher is playing well and that's not because our midfielders are ****, it's because he is bringing lot to the table.

Again, I'm not forcing my opinion. I said Guarin is as average as they come and you came up with "He is better than all your midfielders". By saying that I would expect someone to watch him for number of games rather than making comments so loosely.
 
When someone says some average player is better than any ManUtd CM then I ehave waxpect that person to tched the player for few games to make a solid opinion, if not whatever you say is hard to take it seriously.

Fletcher point makes no sense to you and I don't expect it to make any sense to you. But I'm sure most ManUtd fans would agree that Fletcher is playing well and that's not because our midfielders are ****, it's because he is bringing lot to the table.

Again, I'm not forcing my opinion. I said Guarin is as average as they come and you came up with "He is better than all your midfielders". By saying that I would expect someone to watch him for number of games rather than making comments so loosely.

Didnt I say that I had watched Inter a fair few times ... Just that I didn't give Guarin any special attention but he looked fine to me. If you except someone to watch a player 10-20 times and concentrate solely on that player before he can form am opinion on him then go talk to professional scouts. I am sadly just the average fan who enjoys his football

But fair enough, since you seem so 100% certain on your opinion then I am more than happy to agree to disagree ... Who do you reckon Man Utd should sign this window then?
 
Even if it's for an unreasonably high price when there are other options to explore? Probably not.

12-13m is hardly unreasonable ... A bit on the high end yes but that's what you expect in January. What are the other options? Matic is probably heading to Chelsea. Doubt Cabaye will be sold now. Pogba is a pipe dream
 
12-13m is hardly unreasonable ... A bit on the high end yes but that's what you expect in January. What are the other options? Matic is probably heading to Chelsea. Doubt Cabaye will be sold now. Pogba is a pipe dream

Because he's not even worth ?10 million.
 
Didnt I say that I had watched Inter a fair few times ... Just that I didn't give Guarin any special attention but he looked fine to me. If you except someone to watch a player 10-20 times and concentrate solely on that player before he can form am opinion on him then go talk to professional scouts. I am sadly just the average fan who enjoys his football

But fair enough, since you seem so 100% certain on your opinion then I am more than happy to agree to disagree ... Who do you reckon Man Utd should sign this window then?

I don't want United to spend 10-15 Million on average players who won't improve us at all.

If we are risking 15 Million then add few more and test for Cabaye. There are reports Ever Banega is available, he is bit inconsistent but he is the player who can take us to few levels higher as he is amazing player.

We can even test Inter with 20 Million bid for Kovacic if at all we are prepared to spend big. Also there are few CMs who are available at reasonable prices just that we have to dig bit deeper.
 
Getting no one is better than being lumbered with another average player on a long term contract and high wages.
 
As a huge United fan I used to worship Roy Keane when he played for us. He was one of the best midfielders in the world at the time. His passion, desire and winning mentality meant he was the obvious choice for captain. Although not regarded by a large number of United fans as the best midfielder and captain in the club's history with many believing Bryan Robson at his peak was still the best. Something I totally agree with by the way. Keane still had hero status when he played for us, something that has dwinded since.

Since Keane left United he has soured all the good work he did for the club by a series of remarks about players and Sir Alex along with some of his anti United remarks he has made whilst working as a pundit on ITV. His tv show with Patrick Viera was shown before Christmas and I have tried to watch it numerous times but found myself getting wound up by Keane's Fergie digs so I kept turning it off. Yesterday, however I finally managed to watch it and Patrick Viera came across really well and by the end Keane did too. I was fscinated by Keane's United XI he came up with. There was no room for Giggs, Scholes, Vidic, Cole, Yorke or Neville.

His ultimate XI
Schmeichel
Parker
Irwin
Pallister
Staam
Beckham
Keane
Ince
Ronaldo
Cantona
Van Nistlerooy.
How would you design a tactic if you had these players? wat style would you play and what player roles would you assign?
His ultimate XI is largely based on players he got on with or those that challenged Fergie. Was always jealous of Giggs/Scholes as he saw them as Fergies favourites, which is probably true. Putting Paul Ince in there ahead of Paul Scholes is laughable, Beckham ahead of Giggs as well is an odd odd choice.
 
Hmm fair enough if that's your opinion, so who would you get instead?

I don't know who is realistic and pragmatic to get. I just want to get players who will improve us, rather than add little. We will just have to wait and see.
 
I don't want United to spend 10-15 Million on average players who won't improve us at all.

If we are risking 15 Million then add few more and test for Cabaye. There are reports Ever Banega is available, he is bit inconsistent but he is the player who can take us to few levels higher as he is amazing player.

We can even test Inter with 20 Million bid for Kovacic if at all we are prepared to spend big. Also there are few CMs who are available at reasonable prices just that we have to dig bit deeper.

Newcastle won't sell Cabaye to a a rival club now, especially one that they have a realistic chance of finishing above. You have been tooting Banega's horn on here for as long as I can remember, obviously their is something not quite right with his game otherwise he would have moved to a bigger club by now

Kovacic is a good option although I don't know how much of an impact he can have here and now
 
Dont get me wrong, I never said Fletcher wasn't any good. All I am saying is despite being crocked for the better part of 2 seasons, he is still your best midfielder which shows the dire state of your midfield

And again I never said Guarin is a great player. There are definitely better players out there. I just feel he would be a boost to either Chelsea or Manchester United considering the dire state of our respective midfields and the skill-set he offers. Plus there aren't too many better midfielders than him available in the January window

In short ...

Would I purchase Guarin in the summer? No

Would I purchase Guarin in January when the state of my midfield is dire and my club is fighting for a Top 4 place or the title? Yes

Well done, throwing more money on a player who isn't going to get you out if that situation.
 
Newcastle won't sell Cabaye to a a rival club now, especially one that they have a realistic chance of finishing above. You have been tooting Banega's horn on here for as long as I can remember, obviously their is something not quite right with his game otherwise he would have moved to a bigger club by now

Kovacic is a good option although I don't know how much of an impact he can have here and now
Ok, now you are talking ****, if you think Newcastle are suddenly a rival club. I've long wondered if you have just been trolling, and now I really think you are.
 
I don't think his wages will be all that high tbh
Umm, that's why he hasn't been offered a deal yet, because hes demanding a pay raise with his extension....We're about to get rid of Anderson, and you want him replaced with Guarin.... give me strength
 
Newcastle won't sell Cabaye to a a rival club now, especially one that they have a realistic chance of finishing above. You have been tooting Banega's horn on here for as long as I can remember, obviously their is something not quite right with his game otherwise he would have moved to a bigger club by now

Kovacic is a good option although I don't know how much of an impact he can have here and now

Bold part is absolute nonsense.

Ever Banega is not moved to bigger club because of his attitude issues and nothing wrong with this game. You are assuming there is something wrong because he isn't moved?

Kovacic improves us. Simple and he is a player with plenty of potential. Will go on to become a gem of a player.
 
Newcastle would sell if the right figure came along. which is somewhere around 25m probably. Marchisio is tough more because he is a Juve boy, but he isn't the first choice and given enough money....
 
Well done, throwing more money on a player who isn't going to get you out if that situation.

And that's how Chelsea ended up with Demba Ba. Useful player but not good enough for a big team (tbh I thought he was good enough back then).
 
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