The Manchester United Thread

[Mike.]

I think you completely missed the crux of that.

Not really, It's what you make of the structure. It's the clubs who have to ability to use that, if players are being thrown in an out thats because of the club, not the structure.

So we can be enthused about it, because we make it work

 

[Mike.]

Yes, nor is Matuidi. You're not going to get an identical replacement for Pogba you do realise that?

If someone asked me right now what our midfield lacks I'd say creativity and someone with a really good passing range, unfortunately we didn't go for Pjanic, he would of been my choice but going for Krychowiak you have a player who is capable of filling in different roles effectively. Even though you could use him more as a holding midfielder he can do the box to box as well. He got a strong all round game.

Yes I do realise that, but I'd at least pick a player who gets remotely close to what he does, unlike you.

I mean he is not a line breaker like either Pogba or Matuidi, nor is he a goal scorer. He's pretty much identical to Schneiderlin, a defensive mid with an engine on him.

He's not going to bring either creativity or that running game

 

[ninjaskill]

If someone asked me right now what our midfield lacks I'd say creativity and someone with a really good passing range, unfortunately we didn't go for Pjanic, he would of been my choice but going for Krychowiak you have a player who is capable of filling in different roles effectively. Even though you could use him more as a holding midfielder he can do the box to box as well. He got a strong all round game.

He was always going to join his old boss Emery at PSG. He would have picked the over United I think

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Not really, It's what you make of the structure. It's the clubs who have to ability to use that, if players are being thrown in an out thats because of the club, not the structure.

So we can be enthused about it, because we make it work

I'd take complete issue with it not being down to the structure as it doesn't give competitive games to any significant degree regardless. And that was my initial point to TOD's post before I went off on the state of youth football in England. I personally don't know how he can be excited to watch those kind of games. We've some terrifically talented kids for their age group at L'pool. But watching them in U-18's/ U-21's games is, to me, a pointless exercise. Watching someone like Canos last year in a Brentford game to watching him against his peers in a half-hearted U-21 game is a Worlds of difference.

 

[Mike.]

He was always going to join his old boss Emery at PSG. He would have picked the over United I think

I think he will do really well there, long term that midfield destroyer role will be his, with motta aging

 

[zzeezzy]

Yes I do realise that, but I'd at least pick a player who gets remotely close to what he does, unlike you.

I mean he is not a line breaker like either Pogba or Matuidi, nor is he a goal scorer. He's pretty much identical to Schneiderlin, a defensive mid with an engine on him.

He's not going to bring either creativity or that running game

Matuidi has a good engine, but so does Schweinsteiger despite his age, Schneiderlin and Herrera. When they are on the ball is what counts, for me Matuidi would offer very little to what we would benefit from in that regard.

Meh I don't know, this Pogba story is getting boring quickly to be honest, he doesn't deserve to be highest transfer player and if there is any doubt of him wanting to come we should pull the plug. We can't afford to mess up a £100m transfer and have a player not perform.

 

[Mike.]

Also this has hardly dragged on. He's just out of the Euros. Have a little patience people.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

I think he will do really well there, long term that midfield destroyer role will be his, with motta aging

Related, it'll be interesting to see how Emery does without Monchi supplying him with the talent he has at Seville to fit exactly what Emry does

The French league he'll **** regardless as it's almost impossible not to given the gulf between PSG and the rest. But Europe will now be real interesting to watch.

 

[Mike.]

Matuidi has a good engine, but so does Schweinsteiger despite his age, Schneiderlin and Herrera. When they are on the ball is what counts, for me Matuidi would offer very little to what we would benefit from in that regard.

Meh I don't know, this Pogba story is getting boring quickly to be honest, he doesn't deserve to be highest transfer player and if there is any doubt of him wanting to come we should pull the plug. We can't afford to mess up a £100m transfer and have a player not perform.

Matuidi, though he is no playmaker is excellent on the ball, the fact that you repeatedly dismiss that doesn't change that. He is

Just because you are bored of it, doesn't mean you pull the plug. It will be resolved one way or another soon enough

 

[Mike.]

Related, it'll be interesting to see how Emery does without Monchi supplying him with the talent he has at Seville to fit exactly what Emry does

The French league he'll **** regardless as it's almost impossible not to given the gulf between PSG and the rest. But Europe will now be real interesting to watch.

In that transfer respect I dont think it will matter much. He doesn't need to find bargains the way he needed to at Sevilla, as he will always have money and they have a serious depth. This will be a pure test of Emery, and i think it will be intriguing to see in the CL, because Blanc underachieved for me.

 

[zzeezzy]

Also this has hardly dragged on. He's just out of the Euros. Have a little patience people.

When an agent comes out and says 'he might sign a contract to stay at Juventus', it just sounds like we are getting used to be a part of a deal that suits them.

 

[Mike.]

When an agent comes out and says 'he might sign a contract to stay at Juventus', it just sounds like we are getting used to be a part of a deal that suits them.

If Juve don't accept the bid then he can't move, which is what he said.

Juventus have had the same stance throughout, they are desperate to keep him. Throwing him money isn't an issue, and whatever they could offer, could not compete with United or Madrid anyway

 

[epic terrorist]

When an agent comes out and says 'he might sign a contract to stay at Juventus', it just sounds like we are getting used to be a part of a deal that suits them.

or maybe he is saying that to get United to up their offer, works both ways mate

 

[Mike.]

or maybe he is saying that to get United to up their offer, works both ways mate

Pogba and Juve will never get a better offer in this position again. Only way it would be bigger is if he was moving from United to Madrid

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

In that transfer respect I dont think it will matter much. He doesn't need to find bargains the way he needed to at Sevilla, as he will always have money and they have a serious depth. This will be a pure test of Emery, and i think it will be intriguing to see in the CL, because Blanc underachieved for me.

Absolutely. Blanc failed massively when his remit was to win the European Cup. The same way as I don't see how Pep's not coming into City as a failure his last job when that was what he was hired to do at a club similar to PSG that far ahead domestically you'd have to be a real moron to fail.

I'm more curious on transfers going forward to see the type of players who come into PSG. Yeah, they have all the resources going and he's now shopping in the big boy pool. But it's one thing having that and another having someone like Monchi who totally understands the type of player needed for what the coach does.

How much of it was Emry/ how much of it was down to what Monchi supplied him with?

A pure test of him in a much bigger spotlight indeed.

 

[zzeezzy]

or maybe he is saying that to get United to up their offer, works both ways mate

That can't be true because it's already absurd as it is.. if he wants more I'd tell him to jog on. As we've seen, Pogba is good but he's not the elite bracket like the other players who have cost huge money.

 

[Mike.]

That can't be true because it's already absurd as it is.. if he wants more I'd tell him to jog on. As we've seen, Pogba is good but he's not the elite bracket like the other players who have cost huge money.

I dont think he does want more tbh. He's simply waiting for Juve to react to any bid we make. We'll have have to wait and this week

 

[Theatre of dreams]

If Pogba wants to stay at Juve then just leave it and move on, not worth the hastle. Should of just signed the polish Krychoviak or however it is spelt.

Who said he wants to stay?

 

[Theatre of dreams]

I dont think he does want more tbh. He's simply waiting for Juve to react to any bid we make. We'll have have to wait and this week

Exactly or maybe we have had an offer or been given a price and Juve are trying to get replacements in first. All ifs and buts. We won't know till someone official or well sourced says. People need to stop believing all that is posted. Especially by agents and Riola. Remember the things he was saying about Zlatan and Mkytarian before they signed!

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Sports Witness reporting that Riola and Pogba are meeting today. And Utd are going to bid tomorrow.