The Manchester United Thread

[Mike.]

Jose said we have 3 out of our 4 players and we are 75% done in the transfer market. When the last player comes in we are finished. He doesn't have any intention from what he was saying to make more signings.

He had 4 priorities. Pogba is the last. However we enquires about bonucci and fabinho. So if the opportunity arises we are fine. We aren't short on the winger either. Miki will play right,

 

[zzeezzy]

He had 4 priorities. Pogba is the last. However we enquires about bonucci and fabinho. So if the opportunity arises we are fine. We aren't short on the winger either. Miki will play right,

Bonucci would be the signing of the summer, forget Pogba, forget Mkhi. That would literally be unreal to get him. But I can't see it, sadly, why would Juve consider selling now? I don't get it.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Bonucci would be the signing of the summer, forget Pogba, forget Mkhi. That would literally be unreal to get him. But I can't see it, sadly, why would Juve consider selling now? I don't get it.

Every player has his price. And they do have some excellent centre half prospects ready to step up. Not ideal as he's one of the best in the World at this time. But every player has his price.

 

[Mike.]

We can talk about Pogba and his potential. But he is already an excellent player. United signings have come from all spectrums: raw talent, world class veteran, excellent player in his prime and future global superstars. If people want to sniff at that, that's up to them.

 

[Mike.]

Bonucci would be the signing of the summer, forget Pogba, forget Mkhi. That would literally be unreal to get him. But I can't see it, sadly, why would Juve consider selling now? I don't get it.

They won't. He's off.the market.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

We can talk about Pogba and his potential. But he is already an excellent player. United signings have come from all spectrums: raw talent, world class veteran, excellent player in his prime and future global superstars. If people want to sniff at that, that's up to them.

There's also been some highly expensive flops through Ferguson's time going back to the early days and the likes of Leighton, Webb and Phelan. Not a slight on him as there's not a manager around without his share of failures. Even more so someone as long standing as Ferguson.

Just redressing the balance that not everyone has worked out and no guarantee this will. (I happen to think he would like. But it's all relative.).

 

[zzeezzy]

Every player has his price. And they do have some excellent centre half prospects ready to step up. Not ideal as he's one of the best in the World at this time. But every player has his price.

True but having someone like Bonucci is so beneficial to the younger defenders coming up as well. In terms of his experience, tutoring and mentality, he really would be a huge loss for Juventus if he left.

 

[ninjaskill]

True but having someone like Bonucci is so beneficial to the younger defenders coming up as well. In terms of his experience, tutoring and mentality, he really would be a huge loss for Juventus if he left.

They would still have cheilinni and barzalgi to do that if bonucci left, not that I think he will though

 

[Mike.]

There's also been some highly expensive flops through Ferguson's time going back to the early days and the likes of Leighton, Webb and Phelan. Not a slight on him as there's not a manager around without his share of failures. Even more so someone as long standing as Ferguson.

Just redressing the balance that not everyone has worked out and no guarantee this will. (I happen to think he would like. But it's all relative.).

There's also been cheap flops. Transfers are never guaranteed, and no is arguing they do.

 

[Chelski Shogun]

They would still have cheilinni and barzalgi to do that if bonucci left, not that I think he will though

True, but Bonucci's different to Barzagli and Chiellini. Juve can replace Pogba but Bonucci would be almost impossible to replace.

 

[Mike.]

Well, speaking from my own clubs POV, I'm pretty sure that's the way we're headed under Klopp. He's had to recruit in certain areas this first season from what he inherited, but I'm sure we'll end up with a conveyor belt system down the road where if, for arguments sake, Barcelona came in with silly money for a Countinho say £50/60 million, there's someone here already coming through to step up. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the January window used sparingly to pick up top potential talent from say Eastern Europe who then get loaned back and brought on as they develop and get coached up into better players. It's the way he's always worked, he openly admits he's not into the big name marque signing and would rather recruit younger, hungrier players that want to be here, that he can do with what he likes to do best, trust in his own coaching ability's, and coach them up to be said 'marque players' like he did at Dortmund.

People are that conditioned to Sky telling them you need X player, and think if you just go spend on big names they'll all fit together (stop laughing at the back); that they neglect to understand the importance of properly building a team and running a financially stable club. That can compete equally as well as a major spender if your scouting/ recruitment and coaching is right.

It's nothing to do with condition. Marquee players have always existed. The numbers changed but relative price has always been there.

Dortmund are currently shelling out 30 million for schurrle. Liverpool are just spent 31m on Mane and 25m on Wijnaldum

 

[Mike.]

Higuain is nothing to do with the Munich model. It's about trying to get a forward with his numbers. There are very few available and he is one they know wants to join.

 

[steveorobbo]

Just seen de gea on Facebook share a pic with his new home shirt with the hashtag #FirstNeverFollows. Is this an Adidas specific hashtag? I'm sure I've been Pogba's account using that same hashtag for a while.

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[Scouseinthehouse]

It's nothing to do with condition. Marquee players have always existed. The numbers changed but relative price has always been there.....

With respect, that's utter bunkum. Of course they were there in relative value to the time, but was never the same clamour for major name signings across the board like their is now. And never the angst among supporters when they didn't get that. The whole landscapes changed the PL years among fans and what the majority, often unrealistically, expect/ demand.

 

[steveorobbo]

Actually doesn't matter. Just done a search. Didn't realise pogba was personally sponsored by adidas aswell. Thought it was a cheeky hint from de gea. Wishful thinking haha

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[Mike.]

With respect, that's utter bunkum. Of course they were there in relative value to the time, but was never the same clamour for major name signings across the board like their is now. And never the angst among supporters when they didn't get that. The whole landscapes changed the PL years among fans and what the majority, often unrealistically, expect/ demand.

Nope they always have. Clubs have always had special players, The marketing has changed, but it's always been there. People just want to get snobby about football and hark back to the so-called glory days.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

Respectfully completely disagree. It was NOTHING like this before the explosion after the '90 WC and the invention of the greed is good lea ..... sorry, EPL. But then there was never the same influx of foreign transfers, or transfers in great numbers in general, so there was never the envy of other clubs to get wound up about as is the norm today. You had odd exceptions (not a slight on Utd. Just the way you've been since the '80's) like Utd who threw major money at big money signings chasing it much of the 26 year drought. But major signings weren't the norm and fans demanding them didn't happen either. They happened they were a big event. Most where lesser signings that developed into stars at their respective clubs and stayed. The whole football landscape has changed in most every degree, not least with fan impatience the last two decades.

To deny that is to put spin on the PL and then some.

 

[kitchin75]

Respectfully completely disagree. It was NOTHING like this before the explosion after the '90 WC and the invention of the greed is good lea ..... sorry, EPL. But then there was never the same influx of foreign transfers, or transfers in great numbers in general, so there was never the envy of other clubs to get wound up about as is the norm today. You had odd exceptions (not a slight on Utd. Just the way you've been since the '80's) like Utd who threw major money at big money signings chasing it much of the 26 year drought. But major signings weren't the norm and fans demanding them didn't happen either. They happened they were a big event. Most where lesser signings that developed into stars at their respective clubs and stayed. The whole football landscape has changed in most every degree, not least with fan impatience the last two decades.

To deny that is to put spin on the PL and then some.

talking about about not wining it for 26years your lot cant be far off that am i right #justsayinglol

 

[Theatre of dreams]

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Pogba's contract at #mufc: 5 years€20m per season, inc bonuses[media set]

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Sorry guys wrong thread!