The Manchester United Thread

[RhQQ]

When you look at forward players United have available - Rooney, Martial, Lingard, Miki, Young and Rashford - none of them are technical geniuses or world beaters, but the one thing they have in common, is they're all work horses. Whatever combination of players you create out of that, you will have very industrious front three. They will all help defend, and in attack they may not be dribbling past 5 players, but they will make themselves available for pass and try to make things happen.

And maybe that's what you need to do really. I mean when your central midfield always consists of two brilliant passers of Herrera(Carrick)/Pogba, maybe what you need to do is to just give them options upfront and the goals will come, instead of having them feed Zlatan for 90 minutes and pray for a moment of magic.

Whatever the explanation, it certainly seems like a transformed team, although we'll see how long it lasts.

Agree with most the sentiment of the post, but I think you're definitely doing Martial and in particular Mkhitaryan an injustice by saying that haha. Martial is one of the best young wide forwards in Europe (just been off it/questionably handled this season), and Mkhitaryan is world class, both highly technical.

But I get what you're saying, Zlatan can be a little one dimensional. But a brilliant dimension all the same.

 

[djs1]

crucial dropped points for pool,up to us to take advantage and secure that CL spot.come on boys

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Great weekend!

 

[djs1]

can anyone else hear mourinhos mind ticking,plotting his master plan for city

 

[Vanjagl]

So top4 looks quite interesting.

 

[djs1]

any news on pogba?

 

[Theatre of dreams]

any news on pogba?

Mourinho was talking about accumulation of muscle fatigue after the match.

 

[djs1]

Mourinho was talking about accumulation of muscle fatigue after the match.

guess he will be wrapped in cotton wool for a few days then

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

No way of cutting it Peps been a major flop this season! And like I said before he joined City I'm not convinced he's the man to be successful there. Without having the a team full of the best players in world football. Time will tell but i don't think he will be the dominant force pundits were expecting/ certain he would be.

For me Mourinho will always be better at getting a team to play above its level than Pep. Mourinho can get a team to play well with good players. Pep needs the top quality players to need to perform.

Did you just seriously write that la?

Mourinho is the very definition of a 'cheque book manager.' He's the only manager in history who's totalled over £1 BILLION in player buys. You've said on countless occasions this year 'wait until Jose has his own squad', with your big want another ridiculous massive money outlay on Greizmann. That's on top of the £150 plus million spent his first summer window, breaking a World record transfer fee in the process, with Utd going into the season with the most expensively assembled squad in World football.

Mock Guardiola all you like as the other club the City winning nothing this year/ his first ever year with no silverware as a manager. Talk about Pep being over hyped to your hearts content.

But suggesting Pep can only achieve success with top players whilst the guy you're putting him up against has made a career after Porto of only moving to situations where he can outspend the rest of the league is a ridiculous thing to say.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

Did you just seriously write that la?

Mourinho is the very definition of a 'cheque book manager.' He's the only manager in history who's totalled over £1 BILLION in player buys. You've sound on countless occasions this year 'wait until Jose has his own squad', with your big want another ridiculous massive money outlay on Greizmann. That's on top of the £150 plus million spent his first summer window, breaking a World record transfer fee in the process, with Utd going into the season with the most expensively assembled squad in World football.

Mock Guardiola all you like as the other club the City winning nothing this year/ his first ever year with no silverware as a manager. Talk about Pep being over hyped to your hearts content.

But suggesting Pep can only achieve success with top players whilst the guy you're putting him up against has made a career after Porto of only moving to situations where he can outspend the rest of the league is a ridiculous thing to say.

I never said Mourinho has never spent money! But least he can get the best out of decent players. Pep on the other hand this season has not far from it tbh.

 

[djs1]

its like comparing ronaldo v messi,both world class legends in the game but have very different characters.pep and jose have contrasting ways of setting up a team.different philosophies absolutely but i cant see how we can say one is better than the other when there are so many factors involved.

 

[Legend Incredible]

Did you just seriously write that la?

Mourinho is the very definition of a 'cheque book manager.' He's the only manager in history who's totalled over £1 BILLION in player buys. You've sound on countless occasions this year 'wait until Jose has his own squad', with your big want another ridiculous massive money outlay on Greizmann. That's on top of the £150 plus million spent his first summer window, breaking a World record transfer fee in the process, with Utd going into the season with the most expensively assembled squad in World football.

Mock Guardiola all you like as the other club the City winning nothing this year/ his first ever year with no silverware as a manager. Talk about Pep being over hyped to your hearts content.

But suggesting Pep can only achieve success with top players whilst the guy you're putting him up against has made a career after Porto of only moving to situations where he can outspend the rest of the league is a ridiculous thing to say.

City do have the most talented team in the league.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

its like comparing ronaldo v messi,both world class legends in the game but have very different characters.pep and jose have contrasting ways of setting up a team.different philosophies absolutely but i cant see how we can say one is better than the other when there are so many factors involved.

TBH I can agree with that. But least we've made some serious progress this year. City have gone backwards imo. Even a lot of there own fans are saying the same.

 

[RedUnited]

I think offensively City look great at times, but defensively.. not so much!
I'm sure that Pep with a summer window will make City a very dangerous team overall, as he always does with great teams

 

[djs1]

do you think we should view a draw thursday as a good result,especially given that liverpool dropped points?

 

[Theatre of dreams]

I think offensively City look great at times, but defensively.. not so much!
I'm sure that Pep with a summer window will make City a very dangerous team overall, as he always does with great teams

Who's faults that though!? He signed those defenders and GK. He spent 180m and have gone backwards imo. Plus City new Pep was coming for ages, looks like bad planning or poor management/decision making to me.

 

[zzeezzy]

Pep's City are a threat and it's too soon to say Mourinho has had a good first season with us, that will be decided in the coming weeks. All I do know is that we have it in our own hands and two options rather than one to get CL football, which is great.

On the Pep vs Mourinho debate, I find it pointless, one persons opinion will be different to another.

Only thing I shall say is that for me, Mourinho winning CL with Porto and especially Inter is far more impressive than what Pep has done. Which is no disservice to Pep, as he has done incredible stuff with Barca but it's not on the level of winning a CL with Porto or Inter. Neither clubs have come close to winning the CL without Mourinho.

 

[Scouseinthehouse]

I never said Mourinho has never spent money! But least he can get the best out of decent players. Pep on the other hand this season has not far from it tbh.

You inferred, not for the first time, that only one of them needs top class players to be successful.

Which is ridiculous considering the other person you're talking about has made sure he only works in the best scenarios in a league where he can outspend anyone else on top players. And repeatedly does.

 

[Theatre of dreams]

You inferred, not for the first time, that only one of them needs top class players to be successful.

Which is ridiculous considering the other person you're talking about has made sure he only works in the best scenarios in a league where he can outspend anyone else on top players. And repeatedly does.

Not Peps fault I suppose he inherited two of the best squads over the last years. Like Zzeezzy said about Mourinho achievement at Inter especially in the CL final. I don't think Inter win that with Pep in charge. But like many have also said they have different management styles. In no way am I saying Peps a poor manager or Mourinho has been flawless this season. It's just always been my opinion that he would struggle in the prem that's all.

 

[wkdsoul]

Who's faults that though!? He signed those defenders and GK. He spent 180m and have gone backwards imo. Plus City new Pep was coming for ages, looks like bad planning or poor management/decision making to me.

This is the main factor in the seasons trophyless, if it matters which it really didn't. Txiki is ******* awful recently.

The other was the GK which is purely Peps, its a lynchpin postition to change for HIS team/style which he doesn't have yet. Bravo is gash. He found out his fbs are ****, and needed replacing 2/3 yrs ago at least.

Mou has a much solid foundation to build from, groundwork/gutting of the squad post-Moyes was laid by LVG.

I love the "barca was easy" though argument on Pep. They went from losing it by 17 points, to winning it by 9 (& treble I think?) the season he took over... lol. Mou was ******* genius at Porto though

I'd like a team with the back coached by Mou, the front by Pep please???