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As we all know Di Marzio is one of the most credible in the game at the moment on transfers. He has said all along that our priorities are M'Bappe, Morata and Griezzmann, in that order.

Absolutely crazy if true... why is there such interest in M'Bappe? The cost is absurd for a one season wonder... that's all he is at the moment. It would just be a less proven Martial for me. I don't want M'Bappe for that price, maybe I'm the only one here.
 
zzeezzy said:
As we all know Di Marzio is one of the most credible in the game at the moment on transfers. He has said all along that our priorities are M'Bappe, Morata and Griezzmann, in that order.

Absolutely crazy if true... why is there such interest in M'Bappe? The cost is absurd for a one season wonder... that's all he is at the moment. It would just be a less proven Martial for me. I don't want M'Bappe for that price, maybe I'm the only one here.
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You're the only one.
 
Bujakaa said:
Strange take on Grizz, seems bitter to say that one bad world cup would show that he is not world class player and ruins a big move. There are many world class players who have had bad international record, clubs still want them.
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absolutely no bitterness towards griez whatsoever,i applaud his decision to stay.sorry if you misunderstood what i meant.no guarantees he will still be the man jose wants after russia
 
zzeezzy said:
WhoScored.com
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Ivan Perisic: Of players to score 10+ goals in Europe's top 5 leagues last season, only 1 had a worse conversion rate than Perisic (10.6%)

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Sums up my thoughts about Perisic tbh, if it happens. Decent player, but inconsistent and we're signing him more for his work-horse attitude Jose loves than anything else.

Last thing we need is another attacker who can't convert!

Argh, I'm so mixed on Perisic, but overall not that happy if it happens. Think we could of done better.

He'll be our new Nani.
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Another stat that says absolutely nothing. Where are most of his shots coming from? Outside the box? Does he take all the free kicks? He's not in a great team is he. Half of them shots could be from distance when there's no other option.
 
steveorobbo said:
Another stat that says absolutely nothing. Where are most of his shots coming from? Outside the box? Does he take all the free kicks? He's not in a great team is he. Half of them shots could be from distance when there's no other option.
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If it says nothing to you that's fine, but for me it says a lot.

How many games did we have this season against smaller teams in league that we couldn't get the win despite creating many chances BUT we were not converting them as our players were not clinical enough. Perisic has quality, but is bad decision-maker and as the conversion rate shows, he isn't clinical either.

Our main problem this season was converting chances... doesn't matter how you look at it. The fact that Perisic has such a bad conversion rate doesn't exactly make you feel our main weakness has been addressed with him. It was being addressed with Griezzmann though but we now know that likely isn't happening.

We will get a no.9 to address our lack of goals hopefully, so this isn't all on signing Perisic. But we need more goals from elsehwhere in the team, hopefully Perisic will give us that. But Serie A is no PL, so you can argue he won't get the same volume of chances anyway.
 
zzeezzy said:
If it says nothing to you that's fine, but for me it says a lot.

How many games did we have this season against smaller teams in league that we couldn't get the win despite creating many chances BUT we were not converting them as our players were not clinical enough. Perisic has quality, but is bad decision-maker and as the conversion rate shows, he isn't clinical either.

Our main problem this season was converting chances... doesn't matter how you look at it. The fact that Perisic has such a bad conversion rate doesn't exactly make you feel our main weakness has been addressed with him. It was being addressed with Griezzmann though but we now know that likely isn't happening.

We will get a no.9 to address our lack of goals hopefully, so this isn't all on signing Perisic. But we need more goals from elsehwhere in the team, hopefully Perisic will give us that. But Serie A is no PL, so you can argue he won't get the same volume of chances anyway.
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How does that say he's not clinical? If 90% of his shots are from outside the box, what do you expect it to be? For all you know he could have 100% conversion rate for one on ones or a very high rate from shots inside the area. Without the full stats its meaningless.

Yes our problem was scoring goals but it wasn't through lack of trying. How many keepers came to OT and got MOTM by having a game they will probably never have again in their career? It was just one of them freak seasons where nothing seemed to go in. You wouldn't expect that again this year regardless of who we add to the squad.

Griezmann coming in may or may not have addressed the situation either. He has just as much chance as anybody else of being a flop coming to the Premier League. Not saying he would have been, but you never know. Until they put the shirt on and get on the pitch, its all if's and but's.
 
What was Martial's conversion rate before he arrived? **** that what's been his conversion rate since? He was the second coming of Jesus last season, and I bet his rate was just as bad.
 
steveorobbo said:
How does that say he's not clinical? If 90% of his shots are from outside the box, what do you expect it to be? For all you know he could have 100% conversion rate for one on ones or a very high rate from shots inside the area. Without the full stats its meaningless.
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I guess you make a fair point, that statistic doesn't show the whole story. But Inter fans themselves this season and by watching them generally you see parallels between them and us this season. Some Inter fans have even put this blame on to certain players in their team, Perisic is one of three they specifically target.

Here is a brief paragraph written about Inter and Perisic earlier in the season. Honestly if this wasn't being specific you would think it was about United this season as well!

Inter fluff the most crosses per game in Serie A (26) and are in the bottom six for shot conversion despite being second in total shots. Perhaps even more surprisingly, this may have a lot more to do with Ivan Perisic than many would have assumed.

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Stats aren't everything, it can be debated all day. But Perisic for me has always been a player who create that odd moment of brilliance and he does have quality. But he has shortcomings which have been mentioned before that I believe could outweigh what he will bring to this team.
 
According to who scored he has .2 shots a game from inside the six yard box .7 from outside the box and 2.1 shots a game from inside the box. However as he is a wide man who cuts in they could be due to terrible angles and not having any teammates forcing him into taking shots he wouldn't really want to
 
steveorobbo said:
How does that say he's not clinical? If 90% of his shots are from outside the box, what do you expect it to be? For all you know he could have 100% conversion rate for one on ones or a very high rate from shots inside the area. Without the full stats its meaningless.
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I'd expect him to stop shooting from every position as soon as he sees the goal.
 
zzeezzy said:
As we all know Di Marzio is one of the most credible in the game at the moment on transfers. He has said all along that our priorities are M'Bappe, Morata and Griezzmann, in that order.

Absolutely crazy if true... why is there such interest in M'Bappe? The cost is absurd for a one season wonder... that's all he is at the moment. It would just be a less proven Martial for me. I don't want M'Bappe for that price, maybe I'm the only one here.
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I think after being a main player in a team that won the league and had a great run in the UCL and scoring a boatload of goals I would say much more proven than Martial
 
epic terrorist said:
I think after being a main player in a team that won the league and had a great run in the UCL and scoring a boatload of goals I would say much more proven than Martial
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Looks a tremendous talent but clubs should see how he goes the second season before ponying up this kind of ridiculously stupid money.
 
Don't see Mbappe moving this Summer. He would be a fool to unless he's guarenteed to start every week. Monaco have set there stall out and rightly so rejecting big big offers. There quickly getting dismantled, they need to keep hold of as many as possible. Tielmans and Gaspar are good signings they have acquired. Need to keep Mbappe to stand a chance of another good season. All aboard the Lacaztte/Lukaku train.
 
Theatre of dreams said:
Don't see Mbappe moving this Summer. He would be a fool to unless he's guarenteed to start every week. Monaco have set there stall out and rightly so rejecting big big offers. There quickly getting dismantled, they need to keep hold of as many as possible. Tielmans and Gaspar are good signings they have acquired. Need to keep Mbappe to stand a chance of another good season. All aboard the Lacaztte/Lukaku train.
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Been an absolute breath of fresh air this season cannot wait to watch them again really hope they dont lose too many
 
Few reports coming out now that Atletico convinced Griezmann to stay one more season due to the ban. And Griezmann communicated this as soon as he decided with Mourinho/club and both were understanding. Can see this ending the same way the Ronaldo deal happened. He gets to stay another year bail the club out, look good to the fans. Leave next Summer when we will agree with Atletico to pay in installements instead of one lump sum. And they can rebuild with the funds.
 
Theatre of dreams said:
Few reports coming out now that Atletico convinced Griezmann to stay one more season due to the ban. And Griezmann communicated this as soon as he decided with Mourinho/club and both were understanding. Can see this ending the same way the Ronaldo deal happened. He gets to stay another year bail the club out, look good to the fans. Leave next Summer when we will agree with Atletico to pay in installements instead of one lump sum. And they can rebuild with the funds.
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Yeah, after United wins UCL and EPL. Then he'll want to join. No thanks to glory hunters. (A)
 
Theatre of dreams said:
Few reports coming out now that Atletico convinced Griezmann to stay one more season due to the ban. And Griezmann communicated this as soon as he decided with Mourinho/club and both were understanding. Can see this ending the same way the Ronaldo deal happened. He gets to stay another year bail the club out, look good to the fans. Leave next Summer when we will agree with Atletico to pay in installements instead of one lump sum. And they can rebuild with the funds.
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or stays look good to the fans then ends up at real
 
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