The Manchester United Thread

Marca:

In the case of Morata, his departure to Mourinho's United is so advanced that it could be closed next week independently of what happens to the Portuguese. The striker is fully convinced of his departure.

Don't really need this tbh. We already know he's ready to leave. What we need is an official agreement between the club's.
 
I wouldnt be paying £50m for Dier and taking more game time away from TFM. We even have Blind who can do a job there when needed. Depending on formation next season, Pogba and Herrera are starting the majority of games so no point spending £50m on a player that would potentially be sat on the bench most weeks if we go 4-2-3-1.

Get a right and left back for £25m each which would make the squad a **** of a lot stronger (if Darmian and Young are going), and use TFM and Tuanzebe more, along with Pereira in the squad.
 
I wouldnt be paying £50m for Dier and taking more game time away from TFM. We even have Blind who can do a job there when needed. Depending on formation next season, Pogba and Herrera are starting the majority of games so no point spending £50m on a player that would potentially be sat on the bench most weeks if we go 4-2-3-1.

Get a right and left back for £25m each which would make the squad a **** of a lot stronger (if Darmian and Young are going), and use TFM and Tuanzebe more, along with Pereira in the squad.

i agree but these dier rumours,and thats all they really are at this stage,arent going away
 
I wouldnt be paying £50m for Dier and taking more game time away from TFM. We even have Blind who can do a job there when needed. Depending on formation next season, Pogba and Herrera are starting the majority of games so no point spending £50m on a player that would potentially be sat on the bench most weeks if we go 4-2-3-1.

Get a right and left back for £25m each which would make the squad a **** of a lot stronger (if Darmian and Young are going), and use TFM and Tuanzebe more, along with Pereira in the squad.
Hope to see more of Tuanzebe, TFM next season and Periera. Think the first 2 will end up going out on loan. Can't see us signing any RB or LB for 25m each especially not both. Can't think of that many good FBs available for that price! Would rather give game time too CBJ, Varela, Riley, Mitchell and spend money elsewhere. FBs not a priority for me this Summer.
 
We're in back the Champions League now mate, any position that warrants improving or needs more stability, is a priority. "it's fine, we'll stick it out in those areas" doesn't cover it, now is the time to bolster and prepare to try and fight on all fronts. I'd say LB is definitely an area to look at with the whole lack of trust/clarity in Shaw, and if Darmian leaves, we need a back-up/rotational solid RB too.
 
We're in back the Champions League now mate, any position that warrants improving or needs more stability, is a priority. "it's fine, we'll stick it out in those areas" doesn't cover it, now is the time to bolster and prepare to try and fight on all fronts. I'd say LB is definitely an area to look at with the whole lack of trust/clarity in Shaw, and if Darmian leaves, we need a back-up/rotational solid RB too.
Would only sign a FB IF Darmian and Young leaves. Defo a LB if he does. We are not exactly short atm. Valencia, Shaw, Darmian, Blind, Rojo, Tuanzebe, TFM, Mitchell, Young, CBJ, Riley, Varela, Bailly, Lindelöf can all play FB even Smalling and Jones at RB. Like I said if a few leave defo, especially LB. Just can't see us spending 40-50m without it being absolute necessity.
 
Valencia, Darmian, Shaw and Blind are the only ones I'd be confident going into CL K.O game with at FB. If Darmian's gone, that leaves it at 1 RB & 2 LB's. If Shaw's injured, and his track record would make it difficult to dismiss the thought, then we're down to 1 RB & 1 LB that's trusted.

You've named a host of CB's and youth players who half of them aren't natural in this position mate. In the words of Jose, we need "specialists" in respective positions. FB's definitely an area to look at, if just for natural quality in depth alone.
 
Valencia, Darmian, Shaw and Blind are the only ones I'd be confident going into CL K.O game with at FB. If Darmian's gone, that leaves it at 1 RB & 2 LB's. If Shaw's injured, and his track record would make it difficult to dismiss the thought, then we're down to 1 RB & 1 LB that's trusted.

You've named a host of CB's and youth players mate. In the words of Jose, we need "specialists" in respective positions. FB's definitely an area to look at, if just for natural quality in depth alone.
Yeah that's fair enough. But can't rule them out completely depends what he thinks of the youth coming through.
 
I hope Darmian stays, been really good end of the season and great to have someone who can play both LB/RB!
 
This is why signing someone like Fabinho would make so much more sense as he can in a crisis also cover in other position such as fullback. Although I guess you could argue Dier can fill in CB.
 
This is why signing someone like Fabinho would make so much more sense as he can in a crisis also cover in other position such as fullback. Although I guess you could argue Dier can fill in CB.

He's wank at CB though, at least he's average at DM
 
This is why signing someone like Fabinho would make so much more sense as he can in a crisis also cover in other position such as fullback. Although I guess you could argue Dier can fill in CB.
Dier can play RB in a 3 or 4 and CB to a good enough level. Defo not wank!
 
Tbf to Dier he has been a fundamental part to a team that has finished above us for the last two seasons and at times looked the best team in the league generally.

We're probably being harsh on him, but I don't get excited by Dier, however if he comes in and does a job no one will complain. You don't need all the shiny toys to get a winning team.
 
Tbf to Dier he has been a fundamental part to a team that has finished above us for the last two seasons and at times looked the best team in the league generally.

We're probably being harsh on him, but I don't get excited by Dier, however if he comes in and does a job no one will complain. You don't need all the shiny toys to get a winning team.
Exactly even going back to Fergie, players like ****, Fletcher, Park, O'Shea, Brown, P Neville etc all played part in us winning Prem, CL and cups. Mourinho is very good at building a team and identifying weaknesses in the team/ squad.
 
Tbf to Dier he has been a fundamental part to a team that has finished above us for the last two seasons and at times looked the best team in the league generally.

We're probably being harsh on him, but I don't get excited by Dier, however if he comes in and does a job no one will complain. You don't need all the shiny toys to get a winning team.

And I'd have little arguments if he was being signed for the money he's worth, and as a squad player. My issue is going all out and paying what you would pay for a shiny new toy, for a limited, overrated player, when better options at a similar or cheaper cost are out there.

But that's the last I'll post on the topic until a DM is signed.
 
And I'd have little arguments if he was being signed for the money he's worth, and as a squad player. My issue is going all out and paying what you would pay for a shiny new toy, for a limited, overrated player, when better options at a similar or cheaper cost are out there.
While I agree in a way on the price. But not many players are going for what there actually worth.

VVD - 60m
Pickford -30m
Morata- 90m euros
Perisic we will over pay on
Klassen - 24-27m
most decent FBs are being quoted at 40-50m.
Belotti and Lukaku way overpriced
Barkley

Its insane! We just have to hope Mourinho has got the right targets that he thinks will fill the gaps to take us on a title challenge.
 
And I'd have little arguments if he was being signed for the money he's worth, and as a squad player. My issue is going all out and paying what you would pay for a shiny new toy, for a limited, overrated player, when better options at a similar or cheaper cost are out there.

But that's the last I'll post on the topic until a DM is signed.

Just one thing, I don't think he'd be a rotational player if he came in for 50m. My bet would be that he would be the go to option as the DM in a 4-3-3.
 
VVD borderline world class. Pickford has huge potential/good quality, possibly England's next #1 and Everton's for years to come. £23.6m is fine for Klaassen. Morata & Lukaku are overpriced but that's generally normal with goalscoring strikers, and Morata would significantly improve our side so I'd have no issue with it. No idea about Barkley, wouldn't want him, just like Dier, he's overrated/overpriced because he's English.

And ZZ, that's what I'm worried about! Anyway, have a good evening
 
Just one thing, I don't think he'd be a rotational player if he came in for 50m. My bet would be that he would be the go to option as the DM in a 4-3-3.
I think we will have to switch to a 433 for a lot of games next season especially in CL. Can see why Mou wants him.
 
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