The Manchester United Thread

They got complacent about the MSN's ability to fire them to trophies and almost looks as if they felt they could have any other 8 people on the pitch and win trophies, they have failed to recruit and most of their key players are around or over 30. Think they will have to put up with Real winning the next few La Liga's but will still be a very big threat in Europe with Messi and Suarez's ability to score making them tough opposition in a two legged tie
 
If Liverpool have a chance against Barca, then so do United, Spurs and Chelsea.
 
If I can manage to stay awake, which is debatable as I'm absolutely goosed, I'm quite looking forward to the second La Liga encounter this week later. Thought Barcelona were unlucky to be 2 behind after the second half display the weekend.
 
I'd give every PL team a reasonable chance against them.

Why do you think Liverpool are above the likes of Chelsea & United in Europe? Unless they tighten up that vulnerable open midfield, which doesn't even have that creative spark anymore with Coutinho out the picture (so I'm not sure what makes them play open) and that shambolic high back line, I wouldn't be putting forward Liverpool's name as the PL's best hope of a good CL run or to beat Barca/Madrid. I'd have City, Chelsea & United ahead. The Pep factor with that squad, the tight Italian system of Conte's which will only strengthen if he gets late personnel, and the Jose factor who unlike most of the hipster managers nowadays, knows when to be conservative and when to push the boat out, especially in these tight tactical European games.
 
The Jose factor ..... Mate, let's be honest, you were very lucky right through the knockouts last year against some **** poor sides.

I've defended Utd more than most regulars in here for winning 2 trophies over not finishing top 4. But you could (and would against better opposition) of gone in most every knockout Round bar the game against Les Verts. That's not troubling a top footballing side.
 
RhQQ said:
Why do you think Liverpool are above the likes of Chelsea & United in Europe?
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He doesn't.
His modus operandi is to derail the Manchester United thread into chatting about ABU. Anything but United.
The Mods spotted it before and they will spot it again.
 
Anthony said:
He doesn't.
His modus operandi is to derail the Manchester United thread into chatting about ABU. Anything but United.
The Mods spotted it before and they will spot it again.
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Anthony, please grow the F up.

Firstly, a difference of opinion isn't derailing anything. If you don't like that then message boards aren't for you.

Secondly, they didn't spot anything. I asked for something to prove a point on what was going on at that time and I got exactly what I wanted. Or have we completely forgotten that? But regardless, that is little to no concern of anyone else's.

Anything But United ..... How old are you mate? Because you're not acting father material with that bunkum.
 
Good grief, the pair of you shut up.

Scouse, no point was proven, you were being a bell at the time

Anthony you're being far too sensitive

As for Liverpool? When was the last time you lifted a European trophy? Based on the two games so far, you're in zero shape to be lifting anything

Thought so. Talking about being better than sides who have lifted them more recently is utterly stupid.

Moving on.
 
Seeing how Madrid are raping this Barca team over 2 legs is a decent indicator as to where we are. Barca not the force they once were, but it's still an El Classico. We gave them a much tighter/better game.

I am quietly confident on us having a solid run in the CL this season.
 
RhQQ said:
Seeing how Madrid are raping this Barca team over 2 legs is a decent indicator as to where we are. Barca not the force they once were, but it's still an El Classico. We gave them a much tighter/better game.

I am quietly confident on us having a solid run in the CL this season.
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This Madrid team is lightyears ahead of anyone atm. I'm echoing your thoughts about CL this season. Yes they could of scored more against us but so could we the same that night. Can't wait OT under the lights CL footy and Mourinho at the helm :P
 
What the actuall **** havr Liverpool done in last 12 years to be even remotly (sp) considered close to some top European teams? Let alone one of the best teams in the Millenium? You're not even top5 in the England, let alone in Europe. Holy **** the denial and ignorance.
 
Vanjagl said:
What the actuall **** havr Liverpool done in last 12 years to be even remotly (sp) considered close to some top European teams? Let alone one of the best teams in the Millenium? You're not even top5 in the England, let alone in Europe. Holy **** the denial and ignorance.
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Won Champions League? ;)
 
Vanjagl said:
When? In 2005/2006 of Im not wrong? Its been over 10 years since they've been relevant. Of you want to be petty over 1 season, so be it.
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Well English teams haven't really been relevant in the competition for many years now not just Liverpool.
 
Quasit said:
Well English teams haven't really been relevant in the competition for many years now not just Liverpool.
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United and Chelsea have both been to finals, Chelsea only a few years back and won it since. Either way they haven't been relevant since
 
Mike. said:
United and Chelsea have both been to finals, Chelsea only a few years back and won it since. Either way they haven't been relevant since
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Yeah I especially meant since the Chelsea CL win was it 5 or 6 years ago.
 
Vanjagl said:
What the actuall **** havr Liverpool done in last 12 years to be even remotly (sp) considered close to some top European teams?Let alone one of the best teams in the Millenium? You're not even top5 in the England, let alone in Europe. Holy **** the denial and ignorance.
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Where did the exaggeration come from, from me saying City and Liverpool are best suited to play the likes of Barcelona?

But if you want to take that literally, they've won twice as many UEFA competitions as any other English side this Millenium (1 more if you say Utd have won the FIFA WC Cup), and been to the joint most CL/ Europa finals as any English club. (Utd.). 4 times. Winning as many of those as any other English club.

So, presumably, you're saying every other English side is of absolutely no relevance in Europe this Millenium either as they've all performed worse? (I know, you extrapolated what I said to 'best.' I'm just asking?).

And being as they were among the top 4 sides in England last year, and everyone likes to take everything literally, not sure where the 'not even top 5 in England' comes in?

Point being they're wholly relevant across Europe. They always have been and always will be regardless down to that European history. Which was reinforced under this manager the run to Basle two years ago. Not least against Dortmund. Or maybe they aren't too cracky either?

Maybe everyone's just full of denial and ignorance? Who knows?

Enjoy the draw a week Friday.

*Edit* Thursday. Has been the past few years. Not sure why I've still got Friday stuck in my mind.
 
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