Where did the exaggeration come from, from me saying City and Liverpool are best suited to play the likes of Barcelona?
But if you want to take that literally, they've won twice as many UEFA competitions as any other English side this Millenium (1 more if you say Utd have won the FIFA WC Cup), and been to the joint most CL/ Europa finals as any English club. (Utd.). 4 times. Winning as many of those as any other English club.
So, presumably, you're saying every other English side is of absolutely no relevance in Europe this Millenium either as they've all performed worse? (I know, you extrapolated what I said to 'best.' I'm just asking?).
And being as they were among the top 4 sides in England last year, and everyone likes to take everything literally, not sure where the 'not even top 5 in England' comes in?
Point being they're wholly relevant across Europe. They always have been and always will be regardless down to that European history. Which was reinforced under this manager the run to Basle two years ago. Not least against Dortmund. Or maybe they aren't too cracky either?
Maybe everyone's just full of denial and ignorance? Who knows?
Enjoy the draw a week Friday.
*Edit* Thursday. Has been the past few years. Not sure why I've still got Friday stuck in my mind.