The Manchester United Thread

Wow, you know at half time, i had this feeling that we were going to draw this game based on last season. It had all the symptoms. Dominating the game, creating good chances...missing chances, then when lukaku missed the pen in the 2nd half, I jumped to the conclusion that it was last season all over again until that one corner...wow, what a relief! But another question came up...were we going to concede a late goal? And we scored (debatable offside decision). I believe the mentality has improved.

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Was fearing it too, Legend Incredimaria. But these reds mean business. (God I'm sounding like Scouse now lol)
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
And conversely, if Utd had, had any sort of decent record against their immediate competitors last year, there's every chance they'd of finished 4th and not 6th.

All relative. All games matter.
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We dropped 24 points at home. That was the issue. I'm not sure why it's being argued otherwise tbh. The top 4 clashes simply haven't been that decisive in the last 20 years.
 
zzeezzy said:
.... Stoke away next... will be a real challenging game ......
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Meh. It's not half the place it was to go a few years back. Now they're somewhat established as a PL side, the crowd has become pretty quite like most any other PL home crowd, losing the intimidation factor. And Hughes is taking them more and more away from Pulis and having them playing actual football which makes things a whole bunch easier.

Like anyone else they deserve respect but it's certainly not an away trip to be feared like it was a few years back.
 
RhQQ said:
FFS forgot it was International break
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Can't stand it, but this week should be a bit interesting, given the last week in transfer window and how spicy things seem to be for certain clubs and players needing out.
 
So missed the match due my girlfriend spending all my cash on a shopping trip :( A quick summary how we did please from anyone? Got a few pop ups on my phone from Ducker, Ogden, BBC, Sky. All said we pretty much dominated and look like a real 2005 Mou Chelsea team!?
 
Dominated. FB's and team shape in general pushed very high, knocked it around with supreme ease without steamrolling them at the same time. Very little space between the lines, Leicester very compact - but we pushed and pushed and found a way, unlike last season.

Martial very good, Pogba was the machine again who is just like a kid in the candy shop with Matic tucked in behind (who was quietly excellent once again today). Bailly handled Vardy superbly, Jones was fantastic too. All in all, a well deserved, hard earned 3 points in a type of game we would've drew 0-0 or 1-1 last season.
 
First half we dominated and created a lot, felt like it was gonna be one of them days if we didn't score.. 2nd half a bit better, but still the same. Then Rashford came on and scored 1-0 from a corner tap in, then Lingard and Fellaini came in, Rashford with a great through ball to a superb run by Lingard who cuts inside and shoots Fellaini on his thigh ( suspect offside ) and it goes in the net!

Super subs seems to be our thing this season! :D
 
Just seen that save from big Dave at the end for the clean sheet :) and don't think Mata was offside but need to see it again. Great assist by Lingard! Good for Rashford to get his first goal. Another 2 different scorers today. Read somewhere that Mky broke an assist record today?
 
I think Mata was just off, Mike said no though? They didn't offer us the best angle, not even in replays. Unless they did post match? Didn't catch it.

Like I said, we dug in and got it. Yes we played nice tidy football for large spells, but how many times did breath taking footbal come to nothing at Old Trafford last season? Do whatever the **** you can, just get that ball in the back of the net. Once you make the breakthrough, they have to come out to play... and that suits us.
 
RhQQ said:
I think Mata was just off, Mike said no though? They didn't offer us the best angle, not even in replays. Unless they did post match? Didn't catch it.

Like I said, we dug in and got it. Yes we played nice tidy football for large spells, but how many times did breath taking footbal come to nothing at Old Trafford last season? Do whatever the **** you can, just get that ball in the back of the net. Once you make the breakthrough, they have to come out to play... and that suits us.
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Seen a few highlights/ reports just don't look like conceding atm.
 
What I found interesting was the positiveness of our defensive line, it wasn't deep at all for a side that was playing against Jamie Vardy (remember how he raped Liverpool last season with their high line, Arsenal this season, etc) but I suppose when you have a CB like Bailly, who's as quick a CB in the league (probably give most forwards a run for their money), with that supreme aggression, always on the front foot, always stopping players in their tracks - that highline isn't as risky as it would be with most other clubs. Man's a beast.
 
RhQQ said:
I think Mata was just off, Mike said no though? They didn't offer us the best angle, not even in replays. Unless they did post match? Didn't catch it.

Like I said, we dug in and got it. Yes we played nice tidy football for large spells, but how many times did breath taking footbal come to nothing at Old Trafford last season? Do whatever the **** you can, just get that ball in the back of the net. Once you make the breakthrough, they have to come out to play... and that suits us.
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Mata was onside. If any part of him was off it was his arm, and going off the rules you cant score with your arm so that doesnt count. I think Fellaini was slightly off to be fair but considering Mata's disallowed goal its swings and roundabouts. Both very hard calls for the linesman to make in real time. Especially Mata's with another player shooting and the keeper saving for the rebound.
 
steveorobbo said:
Mata was onside. If any part of him was off it was his arm, and going off the rules you cant score with your arm so that doesnt count. I think Fellaini was slightly off to be fair but considering Mata's disallowed goal its swings and roundabouts. Both very hard calls for the linesman to make in real time. Especially Mata's with another player shooting and the keeper saving for the rebound.
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I'd love to have a view from the opposite side, and see if Mata's left leg is ahead of play.

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Counts for nothing now, just curiousity. The camera deceives sometimes
 
NBC had the back his boot off FWIW.

But being as Utd won the game, it's all pretty immaterial.

*Edit* That said, even if today and the Arsenal game at Stoke were correct, I don't see how a lino can make an accurate, split second judgement on a hairsbreadth of a gap at full the speed of a PL game? Sounds contradictory if they actually got the decisions right. But there's no way you could see in normal time Lacazettes boot lace off. Or the back of Mata's heal.

What happened to the benefit of the doubt going to the attacking team?
 
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RhQQ said:
What I found interesting was the positiveness of our defensive line, it wasn't deep at all for a side that was playing against Jamie Vardy (remember how he raped Liverpool last season with their high line, Arsenal this season, etc) but I suppose when you have a CB like Bailly, who's as quick a CB in the league (probably give most forwards a run for their money), with that supreme aggression, always on the front foot, always stopping players in their tracks - that highline isn't as risky as it would be with most other clubs. Man's a beast.
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The game at Leicester? Leicester got the bounce from their managerial change, suddenly deciding to be totally up for it again and actually play football. And L'pool were in a real slump of injury's and confidence those couple of months. That's not the example you want to be using given the context.
 
Mate I remember watching it, Lucas was playing CB in a high line against Jamie Vardy of all people, it was suicidal
 
And you've just added to the context by saying Lucas was playing CB. The context of everything that night is a bad example to use of a high line defending Vardy.
 
Scouseinthehouse said:
And you've just added to the context by saying Lucas was playing CB. The context of everything that night is a bad example to use of a high line defending Vardy.
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Which if you read my post, is my point. Not every team have an Eric Bailly. He's like a Varane; athletically gifted CB's, who have insane recovery pace to match their aggressive styles. Perfect high-line CB's, as iffy as I am about high-lines.

They can play in a high Guardiola line, or at the heart of a Tony Pulis bus.. rare profiles.
 
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