The Manchester United Thread

Given poor recruitment has been ongoing problem for 3 different managers, all signs are pointing upwards. Woodward seems only interested in signing players for their marketing value so he can place more noodle adverts on them. The whole place seems like recruitment is being run by a gang of premium agents, rather than an efficient organization that uses its own scouting network and it's own resources to sign talents according to long-term strategy.
 
Really hope Fellaini leaves, with his recent moaning it may come true. I don't think we're going anywhere as a footballoing team when we rely on him. On the pitch or off the bench. Long-term we don't want to be playing hoof ball to Fellaini, even as a get out option. We need a greater vision.

Also Ibra has to go, absolutely done and dusted, does not offer enough in the modern game to be a functional forward. Despite a moment of brilliance he can produce.

Get in an alternative forward who can offer something different to Lukaku, Dybala would be a dream but it won't happen.

I'd keep Blind because he is a decent utility player, can do a great job as a CB. Sometimes better than our actual CB's.

Wise investment needed, not buying big names for the sake of it. As Tyton pointed out this is my biggest issue with Woodward. He sees us as a galactico, or that is what his vision is for us. Madrid-esque.
 
Tyton said:
Given poor recruitment has been ongoing problem for 3 different managers, all signs are pointing upwards. Woodward seems only interested in signing players for their marketing value so he can place more noodle adverts on them. The whole place seems like recruitment is being run by a gang of premium agents, rather than an efficient organization that uses its own scouting network and it's own resources to sign talents according to long-term strategy.
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We've signed Ribalta from Juventus so hopefully things should start to change
 
zzeezzy said:
Really hope Fellaini leaves, with his recent moaning it may come true. I don't think we're going anywhere as a footballoing team when we rely on him. On the pitch or off the bench. Long-term we don't want to be playing hoof ball to Fellaini, even as a get out option. We need a greater vision.

Also Ibra has to go, absolutely done and dusted, does not offer enough in the modern game to be a functional forward. Despite a moment of brilliance he can produce.

Get in an alternative forward who can offer something different to Lukaku, Dybala would be a dream but it won't happen.

I'd keep Blind because he is a decent utility player, can do a great job as a CB. Sometimes better than our actual CB's.

Wise investment needed, not buying big names for the sake of it. As Tyton pointed out this is my biggest issue with Woodward. He sees us as a galactico, or that is what his vision is for us. Madrid-esque.
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The problem isn't Fellaini. The problem is that Jose has made him invaluable to his setup
 
Mike. said:
We've signed Ribalta from Juventus so hopefully things should start to change
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Definitely needs that structure.

Woodward should be solely on the financial end of closing things. Leave the football side to proper football men.
 
I don’t think Woodward’s the problem tbh. He simply gets the players the manager wants. Ok except maybe Di Maria. Who would of been actually good under Mourinho.
 
Theatre of Dreams83 said:
I don’t think Woodward’s the problem tbh. He simply gets the players the manager wants. Ok except maybe Di Maria. Who would of been actually good under Mourinho.
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He negotiates, and uses agents for approaches . Which he should not be doing. Anything face to face should be Ribalta. The only thing he should do is pay the money
 
Pretty much. Woodward may as well sign players from the manager's shortlist, but it's been obvious for a while now that he's playing buddybuddy with the agents far more than he should. ****, I guarantee you that Ibra getting a new contract was a favor to Raiola more than anything else. Because setting aside all the nonsense about doctors allegedly claiming that Ibra has superhuman knees, it makes zero sense to resign a 36-year old who's coming after that kind of injury.
 
Just seen Lukaku referred to as "the Belgian Mark Henry" ahaha twitter is mad sometimes
 
Bohui, Mitchell, Gomes and Gribbin all trained with the first team this week. Gribbin more with the main group than the others.
 
Theatre of Dreams83 said:

@AndyMitten
New MUFC piece for ESPN.






The reasons behind Man United's foul mood
espn.com

5:28 pm · 28 Dec 2017
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Transfer policy is one thing, but Pep running away with the league really did a nasty number on you lot.

Because let's be honest here, United brought Mourinho with hopes that he can get the club back on track and win the league in his 1st or 2nd season. The title challenge is pretty much gone, but come May he will still want an extension, just as he's about to enter his meltdown year.

So what do you do, sack him? Seems rough, he hasn't been that bad. Give him another multi-year extension? Huge risk given his history. Do nothing and just run his contract down? You'll never hear the end of his moaning.

Quite a volatile situation you've got bubbling underneath the surface, with no good choices. But I guess that's what you get for hiring a guy who's unpredictable even on his best day.
 
The options out there available have to be assessed but as it stands, you have to stick with him.

Although giving him a long extension is a no no, it should be a year extension, see how the 3rd season goes... if no success the chop.

Our next manager has to be someone who has a clear identity and dare I say it (philosophy) *cough* (not outdated like LVG) way they want to play football and it makes United exciting to watch again.

Does anyone actually have fun watching United anymore? I certainly very rarely do. I know that it doesn't always mean success or anything, but right now we're just a rigid physically imposing team who doesn't have any identity whatsoever.
 
Mou on VVD, can allready feel how media will use some lines from this.

"If I was one of you, I would ask him about his comments one year ago."
"The reality is that if they think that the player is the right player for them and they really want the player they pay his amount or they don’t have the player because that is the way the market is at that time so when we compare now the amount of money certain managers and club spend try to compare that I am not saying with 10 years ago but three years ago is to compare the impossible."
"VVD most expensive defender in history of football. Was he better than Maldini, Bergomi, Rio F? Cannot say that. It is way market is. If you pay, you pay a crazy amount of money. If you don't, you don't have the player. Simple as that. No criticism about that."
 
Pretty much. It's an obscene amount of money but when you take into a account he's a highly sought player from rival team, in the winter window, the price makes sense. I despise the way modern football is going as much as the next guy. But when you're in charge of the clubs, you can either adapt and hope for the best, or you can be Wenger and sit on a warchest for a decade waiting for bargains that never come.
 
Jose: "Never misinterpret my words or say my club doesn’t support or spend. 2 years ago for Paul. Last year for Lukaku. Pretty sure next year pay a lot for 1 player. But we are doing with balance cos we are not club with no limits + only thing that matters is to get the best."


@cmwinterburn

Mourinho on January signings, "I don't think [so]."

Mourinho suggested he wants two midfielders next summer: 'If next summer we buy a midfield player, it’s not to improve our squad, it’s to replace Michael Carrick. So to improve our squad in the midfield we would need to buy two.' #mufc


Jose Mourinho discussed #MUFC's transfer plans during today's press conference: (link: http://manutd.co/Bwm) manutd.c


Good read!
 
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