Time for Manchester United manager David Moyes to start showing signs of progress

[Jonathan Wilson]

Certain debates in soccer rapidly turn into meta-debates, as people stop discussing the point at hand and instead rehearse familiar arguments about the terms of the debate. The England national team is one: Anybody who has ever written anything about a recent game knows that within minutes the comments section will be full of predictable rants, most trying to take some half-baked historical theme and turn it into a panacea. That's the problem with subjects on which everybody has an opinion: People usually stick to the same one and then repeat it.

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