ULTIMATE !

tzahy said:
goals from corner this season

0640e-807d1aa8-e444-4b10-b8aa-ce5c193226e9.png
Click to expand...

random question but can i see your manager attributes? like your actual attributes, the attacking coaching and determination you set when you create your manager
 
Everything was great until ultimate v3 attacked. Just ruined my early season and hope of winning anything.
 
Conceding way too many goals after corners, anyone else have those problems?
 
Im getting some really impressive results with this formation without very average teams for the league.

Player selection is crucial and the recommended stats are important it's about getting suitability/CA balance correct.

One thing I would point out is for people not to get hung up on performance ratings. They don't dictate that much and players such as the CM(D) are very important for the tactic but even a really good CM(D) tends to get a poor-ish rating where as a very average RB can get in the 8's without doing much.

I find the striker scores enough but the goal contribution from the AML, AMR, ST is fairly equal. I believe the AF role is working really well. Without necessarily taking all the glory for itself the role makes a lot of space for the 3 players behind. A reason why this tactic definitely outscores WRATH and CONQUEROR even though the ST goals haven't necessarily gone up. The IF's have.

It does concede slightly more than WRATH but at the end of the day you've lost a DM so what do you expect.

I really enjoy it. The truth however is TFF has created a great deal of tacticts for 16.2 and .3 alone, and they are remarkably similar.

The game is random enough that with a bit of luck any of the tactics may appear to be best for you. They are at the end of the day all very good. This one however I am more than happy with, it's my favourite formation and you wont have WRATH'S infuriating 0-0's.
 
SuperMike said:
Im getting some really impressive results with this formation without very average teams for the league.

Player selection is crucial and the recommended stats are important it's about getting suitability/CA balance correct.

One thing I would point out is for people not to get hung up on performance ratings. They don't dictate that much and players such as the CM(D) are very important for the tactic but even a really good CM(D) tends to get a poor-ish rating where as a very average RB can get in the 8's without doing much.

I find the striker scores enough but the goal contribution from the AML, AMR, ST is fairly equal. I believe the AF role is working really well. Without necessarily taking all the glory for itself the role makes a lot of space for the 3 players behind. A reason why this tactic definitely outscores WRATH and CONQUEROR even though the ST goals haven't necessarily gone up. The IF's have.

It does concede slightly more than WRATH but at the end of the day you've lost a DM so what do you expect.

I really enjoy it. The truth however is TFF has created a great deal of tacticts for 16.2 and .3 alone, and they are remarkably similar.

The game is random enough that with a bit of luck any of the tactics may appear to be best for you. They are at the end of the day all very good. This one however I am more than happy with, it's my favourite formation and you wont have WRATH'S infuriating 0-0's.
Click to expand...

Can not agreed with you, ST+ST in Conqueror scores 30 to 40% more goals than ST+AMC in ULTIMATE. ML+MR in Qounqueror score about 30 to 40% LESS goals IF+IF in Ultimate.

Lets say that attack is almost similar.

But defense in Conquerer is about 40% better, MR+ML are far away more effective in defence than IF+IF. Also DMC in Conqueror is More important in defence than BBM.

This is something that I have evaluate many many times.
 
maximtsigalko said:
Can not agreed with you, ST+ST in Conqueror scores 30 to 40% more goals than ST+AMC in ULTIMATE. ML+MR in Qounqueror score about 30 to 40% LESS goals IF+IF in Ultimate.

Lets say that attack is almost similar.

But defense in Conquerer is about 40% better, MR+ML are far away more effective in defence than IF+IF. Also DMC in Conqueror is More important in defence than BBM.

This is something that I have evaluate many many times.
Click to expand...

Where are you getting these percentages from?

How are you calculating 30%-40% more goals? Considering the difference between those percentages is huge?

Do you just mean by feel?
 
SuperMike said:
Where are you getting these percentages from?

How are you calculating 30%-40% more goals? Considering the difference between those percentages is huge?

Do you just mean by feel?
Click to expand...


I have tried save/load same match 5 times with Qonqueror (total fluid) and 5 with ULTIMATE (total fluid)


And I have done this in let say, in 5 games in season. against low, average, and strong team.

So it is based on 50 matches.

And + overachiving is more tha 50% on Qounqeror side, I play with Pynik (Armenia), one of 4 worst Europe League. And in 2nd season beating St.Ettien, AZ, BMG...with **** players... ULTIMATE can do draw in max
 
Player selection:

Has anybody else noticed that the recommended stats differ when you compare the TFF filters and the listed stats from OP?

So which one do people follow: filters or listed stats - any thoughts?
 
Corkscrew Arabesque said:
Player selection:

Has anybody else noticed that the recommended stats differ when you compare the TFF filters and the listed stats from OP?

So which one do people follow: filters or listed stats - any thoughts?
Click to expand...
both

this only show u how the CA and PA should be splitted in efficent way and you should match this with the CA and PA needed in your league for instance stats from filters may be good for Bundesliga or Serie A, but for Premier League you should look for player that suit to the stats from OP cause in this league you need better players

I don't know if I explain that in a clear way :D
 
So anyone has any results using this tactic on fm touch (on pc)?
 
Im intrigued to try this, i have been using conqueror v2 to good effect but like the look of this, all tactics since V2 IMO are no where near as good.
 
maximtsigalko said:
I have tried save/load same match 5 times with Qonqueror (total fluid) and 5 with ULTIMATE (total fluid)


And I have done this in let say, in 5 games in season. against low, average, and strong team.

So it is based on 50 matches.

And + overachiving is more tha 50% on Qounqeror side, I play with Pynik (Armenia), one of 4 worst Europe League. And in 2nd season beating St.Ettien, AZ, BMG...with **** players... ULTIMATE can do draw in max
Click to expand...

Wich version of Conqueror is better for you ?
 
abnsss said:
started a new save with Hertha Berlin (predicted 15th)
first matches were a little bit laborious but it seems working very well now !!

View attachment 1043173
View attachment 1043174

vs Bayern
View attachment 1043175

the team
View attachment 1043176
View attachment 1043177


very goo tactic TFF, thanks and congrats :)
Click to expand...
Are you playing fm touch? (or classic or whatever its called now) It seems like the tactic is like 50% if used in touch compared to the normal version
 
i always play full matches, my assistant manager is too bad to get instant results working well in my opinion.
i only use instant result for friendly games during the pre-season
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

FMBase

Beta

Resources

Back
Top