What approach suits my team / I need a Tactic

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As we have now a sub forum, this thread is closed.



That's right boys !!

I present, the new sub forum of the Tactic section

Tired and frustrated of your cries for help not being answered in the "In need a tactic thread", another poster always, making your request invisible?

Angry with me for closing down your ever so in depth thread ?

Not happy about getting any ?

Well, here it is, The new sub forum that will replace the previously mention sticky

What Tactic Should I Play




Here is a quote from the posting rules in the sub forum


Welcome to the new subforum of the Tactic section
!!



In here, you may start threads on the following subjects ( or threads reminding of these ;d )

Asking to be spoon fed with a tactic

- " I need a tactic for Napoli first season, using an updated database. I have bought Hazard and want to use 2 forwards. Here is a screenshot of my team ( as not all users actually know the transfers made in the updated database). Cheers and thanks for your help


Asking users to help you to tweak your tactics

- " I am currently using a 4411, Fluid, Control, playing as Liverpool. Whilst I have no problem with beating the likes of Man u or Arsenal, I always seem to loose when playing lesser teams like Wigan away or even Blackpool at home. Anyway, here are some screens of my formation, the team settings along with the mentality and closing down settings of my team ( as I know that not all user have played fluid-control in a 4411)




Asking how to setup a tactic in general for your team

I am a newbie to FM and don't know how to setup my team. Can you give me some pointers. As you can imagine, I will not be able to use the shouts( until learning them) so I just need some basic pointers and then I will carry on myself as I like the idea of exploring the new game I just bought. I am playing with my favorite team X. here is a screenshot of the players. I would like to play a 4231 as its my favourite formation in real life.. Cheers

Remember that the more relevant information you provide, the better the help you will get
 
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Hi. This is kinda my first post here in the forum, I basically checked out discussions before, without even registering. I've been playing FM since the 2010 version, so I'm kind of a newbie. Always did tweaking in my tactics, but in FM11 my "shoot-for-the-skies" tweaking isn't working. I mean, I've got some awesome players, but no one seems to do well and it's ******* me off. Really hope someone can help me out, so here it goes:

Team - Juventus
Season - 2010-2011, in november.
Screenshots are attached because imageshack was being a pain, sorry.

Also, my current tactics are attached if anyone wants to check it or maybe even fix it for me.
Thanks in advance mates!
(sorry for any writing mistakes, I'm brazilian)
 
Hello im a newbie to football manager ...i have a question regarding my current team ...in fm10 i got to the champions league final and finishes 3rd in the EPL with Liverpool.. Im playin with them again and i want some help from more experienced people like you guys...

team-liverpool
year 2011 just started and got a few transfers in but i cant find a tactic that suits me...
sorry i dont know how to upload my squad so ill just name them..
i do not have a training regime or a set tactic ...also please help me onto who to sell as well if needed to make any other transfers thanks...i really appreciate you guys helping out..thank you again...

reina
g johnson
carragher
agger
aurelio
lucas
gerrard
miereles
kuyt
babel
torres
itandje
kyrgiakos
maxi
ngog
skrtel
j cole
jovanovic
kelly
shelvey
pacheco
j spearing
konchesky
brad jones
coentrao
poulsen
pires
santa cruz
lukaku
 
Hello im a newbie to football manager ...i have a question regarding my current team ...in fm10 i got to the champions league final and finishes 3rd in the EPL with Liverpool.. Im playin with them again and i want some help from more experienced people like you guys...

team-liverpool
year 2011 just started and got a few transfers in but i cant find a tactic that suits me...
sorry i dont know how to upload my squad so ill just name them..
i do not have a training regime or a set tactic ...also please help me onto who to sell as well if needed to make any other transfers thanks...i really appreciate you guys helping out..thank you again...

reina
g johnson
carragher
agger
aurelio
lucas
gerrard
miereles
kuyt
babel
torres
itandje
kyrgiakos
maxi
ngog
skrtel
j cole
jovanovic
kelly
shelvey
pacheco
j spearing
konchesky
brad jones
coentrao
poulsen
pires
santa cruz
lukaku

Personally, I would build the tactic around the key players that you have. Try getting the best out of Gerrard, Torres and Babel and initially play a standard/Balanced approach.

Example:

In a flat 442 , perhaps use Gerrard as an Advanced playmaker on attack duty and Torres as an advanced Forward and make the partnership work like a dream whilst limiting some of the other players in creative freedom and attacking duties. After that, I would probably try getting the best out of babel, perhaps using him in the AML position and see if the tactic still is balanced or good enough defensively.

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Hi. This is kinda my first post here in the forum, I basically checked out discussions before, without even registering. I've been playing FM since the 2010 version, so I'm kind of a newbie. Always did tweaking in my tactics, but in FM11 my "shoot-for-the-skies" tweaking isn't working. I mean, I've got some awesome players, but no one seems to do well and it's ******* me off. Really hope someone can help me out, so here it goes:

Team - Juventus
Season - 2010-2011, in november.
Screenshots are attached because imageshack was being a pain, sorry.

Also, my current tactics are attached if anyone wants to check it or maybe even fix it for me.
Thanks in advance mates!
(sorry for any writing mistakes, I'm brazilian)

I think ..no I am certain that the main flaw with this approach is down to one thing. You give some players very, very high creative freedom and tell them to make the more difficult things in a high tempo and with very, very little time wasting ( time to consider their options)

In short, the players try to do too clever things and are told to make these decisions in a hurry. Just try to raise the Time wasting and lower the creative freedom
 
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I think ..no I am certain that the main flaw with this approach is down to one thing. You give some players very, very high creative freedom and tell them to make the more difficult things in a high tempo and with very, very little time wasting ( time to consider their options)

In short, the players try to do too clever things and are told to make these decisions in a hurry. Just try to raise the Time wasting and lower the creative freedom[/QUOTE]

I think that with less creative freedom and a short passing system his tactic will work more as there are always players near eachother in your tactic, and if the tempo is fast passes will be quick and will fool the opposition, just make sure you have a playmaker.
 
Hello, I am playing with Deportivo and using ultra defensive tactic and counterattacking.
It is hard for my players to hook on the ball on counterattacks. Should I use lone striker as a Target man and play AMC as a support role ?
Do you have any suggestions for my team?
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I think that you should set the instructions for your CF to play as Poacher or Advanced forward.Also,you could put your DMs higher up,so one of them to play as Central Midfielder(support) or Box to Box MF, and other to play as Ball winning midfielder(defend). Those are my sugestions,I hope it helped:)
 
Dortmund, Nov 2011 atm. Kroos and Srna is joining in Jan.

I have established a Flat 4 Defense with 2 DM Anchor, but not too sure what should I play in midfield and forward.
 
Hello, i'm new here and I need help with tactic for Chicago. I'm still struggling with away games, I can't win any game, it's still draw or lose. Home games are OK.

Squad:
Bowen,Grabavoy and Robles joins the team on the beginning of the season.
Thomas joins the team in the middle of the season.
White joins the team last month.
hahi7hlebz1hhk5wcr3p.jpg
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To the end of the season i need to play 8 matches.
Thanks for advices.
 
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Hello, i'm new here and I need help with tactic for Chicago. I'm still struggling with away games, I can't win any game, it's still draw or lose. Home games are OK.

Squad:
Bowen,Grabavoy and Robles joins the team on the beginning of the season.
Thomas joins the team in the middle of the season.
White joins the team last month.
hahi7hlebz1hhk5wcr3p.jpg
viewer.php


To the end of the season i need to play 8 matches.
Thanks for advices.

If we are able to help you tweaking your current tactic so that it works better when on the road, you need to tell us about the tactic ( or upload it). Otherwise, the only advice will be to drop the wingers into MR/L
 
i am sorry if this is the incorrect thread but my question is

is it best to play 2 strickers or one with to attacking inside forwards,as iam winning games but not scoring a lot of goals?
 
If we are able to help you tweaking your current tactic so that it works better when on the road, you need to tell us about the tactic ( or upload it). Otherwise, the only advice will be to drop the wingers into MR/L


The tactic is in my first post. |)
 
- Team - Spurs
- Players (screenshot attached)
- Season - Just about to start my second

So far I have been playing a 4-4-2 diamond and it has been going ok, I have also attached a screen shot of this. I play Mario Balotelli as a complete forward and Kadlec as a trequartista.
So it would be great to hear your take on how I can improve it. :)

Gk - Goalkeeper - Defend
DR - Full Back - Automatic
DCR - Center Back - Defend
DCL - Center Back - Defend
DL - Full Back - Automatic
DM - Defensive Midfeilder - Support
MR - Winger - Attack
ML - Winger - Attack
AMC - Attacking Midfeilder - Attack
STCR - Complete Forward - Attack
STCL - Trequartista
 
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- Team - Spurs
- Players (screenshot attached)
- Season - Just about to start my second

So far I have been playing a 4-4-2 diamond and it has been going ok, I have also attached a screen shot of this. I play Mario Balotelli as a complete forward and Kadlec as a trequartista.
So it would be great to hear your take on how I can improve it. :)

You will get the same answer as the previous request. Its hard for anyone to help you improve/tweak the tactic if we don't know what it is ( apart from a 442 diamond and 2 player roles)

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The tactic is in my first post. |)

will have a look at it,
 
im playing a 4-4-1-1 or sometimes a 4-2-3-1 with newcastle and i cant seem to get the best out of andy carroll as the lone striker. I've been using him as a target man but he doesn't get enough chances. can anyone suggest a better role for him or suggest how to get the best out of him?
 
Hello again. Thanks for the input on my previous post, but I'm still having problems. My team concedes too much and the ball rarely gets to the striker. Therefore, I decided to post every player's configuration, so you'll have a better look in what's wrong.
Thanks in advance, and thanks again for the previous input.


PS: I think that, for this topic to work better, everyone should answer a post by quoting it or even the nickname of the poster.
 
You will get the same answer as the previous request. Its hard for anyone to help you improve/tweak the tactic if we don't know what it is ( apart from a 442 diamond and 2 player roles)
Sorry, I have now edited my original reply.
 
i am sorry if this is the incorrect thread but my question is

is it best to play 2 strickers or one with to attacking inside forwards,as iam winning games but not scoring a lot of goals?

when playing inside forwards you usally want them to score. therefore I ,like using one striker and one amc with the striker roam from position draging a CB out of position creating a hole for your winger to move into and in that way create clear cut chanses.
 
""Hello again. Thanks for the input on my previous post, but I'm still having problems. My team concedes too much and the ball rarely gets to the striker. Therefore, I decided to post every player's configuration, so you'll have a better look in what's wrong.
Thanks in advance, and thanks again for the previous input
PS: I think that, for this topic to work better, everyone should answer a post by quoting it or even the nickname of the poster.""

Hey Daniozzy. Well in terms of why your conceding..my first thought is that both your Full backs/Wing backs are set to play the Hugline. You've also set your team to Roam and Overload. When you set your backs to touch the hugline that immedately will set open gaps or channels. I presume you get beat by guys always finding gaps in your back line. Consequently your "Man marking" CBs can be pulled toward the center leaving even bigger gaps. So when you "ROAM" you'll leave yourself open. Since you also are set to "OVERLOAD" your more offensive pushing everyone up to attack and score. So in this case, you open yourself up because your so offensive to teams that counter or teams that have smart MC's and strikers. I agree with "TheBetterHalf" in that you're too creative and you might need to bring your time wasting up. That or try to slow your tempo down and playing a Shorter passing game. Your also going to have to "Retain possession", "Work ball into the box", and "Pass to feet" on your touchline shouts.

As to why your striker isn't getting balls, I'm not sure. It appears that you are supposed to give him opportunities since you're set up to target your target man in most of your instructions. Personally, I'm not a fan of Muniain as a lone striker. I do love him as a poacher but not as a lone striker. If you had say a good target man or complete forward you can pair him with, he'd be much better for you. Remember that lone strikers that are short will find it hard to get in the box and receive balls since they are short. It's like having a 6'3'' Center in basketball. The team won't feed him cause they can't see or find him. If you must use Muniain by himself...you might have to set him as a like Advanced Forward cause i don't believe he's strong enough to be a deep lying forward. "Working the ball into the box" would also allow your striker more touches. Your going to have to get him to get that ball deep from the top of the box, and you'll have to have him run onto the ball for him to be effective.

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Sorry, I have now edited my original reply.

Modric is actually a really creative player. You might want to use him more supportive. He'll score for you even if he's supportive but and most importantly you want him to create goals. You need some player makers and Modric is one of them. Remember if everyone attacks, like you have, everyone is doing things for themselves instead for each other.

You have a really good passer in Palacios that you could use in your MC position. He's very accurate. Using him in combination with Modric will allow fluid and accurate passing. Which would allow Balotelli and Kladec some opportunities. So I'm thinking replacing Henrique with Palacios and bringing Henrique as a prime time scoring replacement.
Conversely you can use Henrique as a Supportive playmaker from that position.

Hazard is a darn good player which for me plays better than Henrique so thats his replacement if your looking.

Balotelli is more of a Advanced forward or Deep lying forward. Since he's got low defensive stats however if you must use him as a Complete forward..how about using him as a supportive FC to your trequartista. Crouch is a good Target man which would work well with Balotelli (if your using him as a DLF or AdvFC.

If you set more supportive roles, you'll have more team cohesion. Right now you have your defense playing the defensive side and your offense playing offensive. If you play, a little more supportive, the team will play more as a team and less as separates.
 
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