Where has all the creative and golascoring midfield play gone???

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I am currently managing Burnley and in my 3rd season. In my first season I won the Championship and in my second season I finished 7th and won the Carling cup and now in my third season I am sitting eight in the league heading into Christmas. But the thing is, in all that time even in the Championship none of my midfield players have dominated games. I have seen other people say on here too that they can't get players like Modric, Carrick, Lampard, Adams etc to play like they do in real life. Anyone else have the same problem? Or does anyone have tips/tactics for midfielders to help them dominate the game
 
If you want the midfielder to take the game by the scruff of the neck, make them the playmaker and have "use playmaker" ticked. This should signal to the rest of the team to play through him and allows him more time on the ball to influence the game.

Another tip would be to play to the midfielders strengths, for example, don't have the team playing down the wings if you wish the playmaker to receive the ball a lot or don't have a high tempo if his passing / first touch isn't quality.
 
I have had this problem as well. Using midfielders like Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas, Pastore, Hamsik, Ozil, Lampard, etc etc I have been unable to get them dominating games. Granted, I almost always use a 4-2-4 which means the midfielders are outnumbered (making it much harder for them to dominate the game), but still. I'm also curious how to get midfielders dominating.
 
Playing 4-5-1 (1 CDM, 2 CMs, 1 AMR and 1 AML) with arsenal I managed to dominate games with my midfield.

Playing Hamsik/Wilshere as Adv PM attack and Arteta/Ramsey as Adv PM support with Song as anchorman/Crisetig as a DLP in behind.

I had a slow tempo set and reduced the passing style to very short (although not all the way), as well as focusing passing through the middle of the pitch.

For match instructions I used retain possession and hassle opponents and I generally bossed games with 55-60% possession even against the best teams.

This was especially effective 3+ seasons in when Wilshere, Ramsey and Crisetig became awesome.
 
I've had this problem as well.

This is specifically in AMC position. I've played Kaka, Ozil, Pastore, Iniesta, all these guys have stats of midfield Jesus , yet for some reason they all play like deadwood. I've tried adjusting their instructions, PPM, passing style, ticking playmaker on and off. Eventually i just always bench the guy and move on.

The only one i was happy with was Gylfi Sigurðsson, but thats only because he produces so much assist and goals through set pieces and his superb longshots , his otherwise mediocre peforming in the midfield can be excused, not to mention you can get him for 10mil.

Overall i find it more effective so far to use DLP spraying passes from behind or Adv PM in the CM position and skip AMC completely in favour of Winger or extra Striker.

(also, hi, my first post!)
 
I'm pretty sure there is something wrong with AMCs this year. I'm playing a tactic with 2 amcs and they really don't do anything...ever. They never attack well inside the box, they don't run much, have a hard time linking with midfield or strikers. I had one save with napoli with this formation where I came in 3rd in Serie A, but I simulated all the games and I'm pretty certain the assman changed tactical instructions.
 
I completely agree with this thread.there is definitely a problem. My cam do **** all. I sold ozil, marvin Martin and David silva. It's a disgrace.
 
For the sake of argument i'm currently retraining Pastore as winger. His presence on the pitch increased massively. He made his first Man of The Match without even knowing how to play on wing at all. In a CL final.

Over first half of the season his average note went up from 6.9 to 7.6. I cant wait to see how he performs when he actually knows how to play there. In any case its not the player being bad, its the engine.
 
Tyton said:
For the sake of argument i'm currently retraining Pastore as winger. His presence on the pitch increased massively. He made his first Man of The Match without even knowing how to play on wing at all. In a CL final.

Over first half of the season his average note went up from 6.9 to 7.6. I cant wait to see how he performs when he actually knows how to play there. In any case its not the player being bad, its the engine.
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Dude I completely agree. It's utter BS. Has anyone complained to sports interactive?
 
If there's a glaring flaw of the recent FMs, it's that the CMs don't do ****. The only CM role that is really acknowledged by the game is the ball-winning midfielder.

In the game, the midfield acknowledgement is ignored due to the attacking wingers putting in the assists and it doesn't seem the game acknowledges simple neat passes that helps create space and open up areas for my players to exploit.

For example, in the game the quality of my team declines when Ganso doesn't play, but the game never acknowledges his contribution unless he puts in the assist or scores or puts in the tackles.
 
It's extremely common that MC's don't really play as well in FM2012 i have the same issue myself i do get a few goals and assists out of them but knowhere near as much as my Wingers and AMC. I am curious to see some screenshots of a good assist MC i havent really seen one myself.
 
cyril said:
It's extremely common that MC's don't really play as well in FM2012 i have the same issue myself i do get a few goals and assists out of them but knowhere near as much as my Wingers and AMC. I am curious to see some screenshots of a good assist MC i havent really seen one myself.
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All playing in a CM Advanced playmaker attack role for every single one of the games.

And although they're not prolific in getting assists there's definitely a lot there.
 
That is roughly about what mine do at the moment but players like Xavi rack up a load of assists a season but ive never seen him do over 20 odd for me.
 
This is Pastore full season as AP winger. I created a monster. About first alf of season still training for the position, he still took player of the year out of Messi's hands.

I cant be arsed to look for previous seasons saves, but playing as AMC he roughly had half of assists/goals with about 10 less games.

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looks like i opened a can of worms with this thread then lol. aside from there being a lack of creative and goalscoring midfielders it seems to me the entire central midfield is a bit of a problem. you very rarely get performances like that of Bryan Robson at his peak or steven gerrard where they just completely dominate games. wingers on the game are definately the biggest influence in matches.
 
Wingers are where its at as far as Assists are concerned these are my two wingers who are doing incredible assists. I think in all honesty they are too good to be playing in the dutch league at the moment.

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In FM2011 there was a tactic tic tac magic where i seen a guy get 50 + assists from MCL. It is the only time ive ever seen a MC get close to that amount. I would love to see someone hit that with an MC in FM2012. assists seem to be coming mainly from wingers nowadays well for me at least.
 
Glad to see that so many others have had a hard time getting performances from true CM's, I was beginning to think I was the only one! As for goal scoring midfielders, I have to be honest and say that Darren Gibson has played well for me. Signed him on a free in second season with Southampton and he gets goals. 16 longs shots and 13 technique...I know he has his faults...9 tackling, but useful for a lower tier team.
 
I can see what you mean, but when you think about it, it's how the game tends to play.

However, I'm pleased with my creative midfielder, Marvin Martin for Sochaux, has played.

Yes, 7 assists and 1 goal, but he dominates games, keeps possession well and does start the creation of a lot of chances.

Usually, for me, your creative midfielder is the one who starts dangerous plays, by either switching play or seeking out a cross-field ball, hence why they don't necessarily get a high assist rate.
 
With Eriksen playing as a advanced playmaker in CM, he had 44 apps and made 32 assists when paired with Inler as a BWM in a 4-2-4 formation. Granted, he did take my FKs and corners but I'm quite sure most of them came through passes since I remember being real frustrated at how I couldn't score off set pieces.
 
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