Why can't I score goals??

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I dominate games, at least 60% possession with an average of 5-6 clear cut chances every game but we miss so many chances. I have Diego Costa up front and also have Morata, Eto'o, Drogba and they miss so many one-on-ones it is ridiculous. Nearly 2 a game. I have about 2 cleared off the line every game and 3-4 off the woodwork it is just unbelievable. I am top of the league with Chelsea but are really struggling to score goals compared to the chances we create. It's not just the strikers either though. Oscar, Hazard, Mata they just can't finish! I focus on attacking in training with attacking movement in match prep. and it doesn't seem to do much good. The opposition however, have a few chances and always score. It's not down to confidence either as Costa has scored 4 in the 5 games he's played since he came and he was top scorer in La Liga but he too misses so many chances!

How do I get them to start scoring? Or is this some problem with the ME?
 
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I dominate games, at least 60% possession with an average of 5-6 clear cut chances every game but we miss so many chances. I have Diego Costa up front and also have Morata, Eto'o, Drogba and they miss so many one-on-ones it is ridiculous. Nearly 2 a game. I have about 2 cleared off the line every game and 3-4 off the woodwork it is just unbelievable. I am top of the league with Chelsea but are really struggling to score goals compared to the chances we create. It's not just the strikers either though. Oscar, Hazard, Mata they just can't finish! I focus on attacking in training with attacking movement in match prep. and it doesn't seem to do much good. The opposition however, have a few chances and always score. It's not down to confidence either as Costa has scored 4 in the 5 games he's played since he came and he was top scorer in La Liga but he too misses so many chances!

How do I get them to start scoring? Or is this some problem with the ME?
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take screen shot of your tactic and shouts please matey, let's have a look :)
 
right, the 4-2-3-1 is tricky in 14.2, with IF's you want a f9 as a striker, to disrupt the defence, luckily you have costa and i assuming still have torres? they are decent F9's. Alternatively, change the IF's to wingers and put Costa as a complete forward.

Same again really with the second tactic, you have to inside forwards and then two strikers who wait up for a delivery, so wingers would be better suited, or a single F9 striker and a defensive forward striker.
 
No I exchanged Torres and Mikel for Costa!! He scored about 2 goals in 40 games...terrible!
Thanks for the help :) I'll see how it goes.
 
hazard n oscar aren't the best finishers,
try and distribute the shots so your best finisher/s take the most shots
judging from your team it would be Costa, maybe try him as a advance forward
play hazard as a winger s backup up with a WB on attack, Oscar as AMC S , i like the Mata role but better to play him on attack since he is a way better scorer than hazard, be sure to back him up with a FB on support duty
Lampard is above average a scorer for a MC so its a waste to play him as a deep playmaker on defense, so either change it to a supporting deep playmaker or change the role itself to Central mid supporrt or box to box
if your decide to change lampards role u should change ramires as well cuz the bwm isn't the best pick for the holding mid and can drift further forward and expose your defense i would rather play essien or obi mikel as a CM on defense or Deep playmaker on d combine with lampard as a box to box or Cm on support
and be sure your holding midfielder is covering the side of your more agressive FB/WB so you don't get exposed to counters
 
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Aah.. 4-2-3-1.. I use 2 wingers on attack, and a TM up front. Banging in goals like nuts. If you've not already given away Lukaku, use him. He's brilliant.
 
Here goes:

1. 1st tactic only has one player from mf up on support. So if he plays badly or gets marked out of the match you re in trouble.
2. Also - if you re not sure what you re doing/whats happening as it seems to be the case better not use fancy player roles such as trequartista.
3. Second tactic has too many players on support.
4. Generally speaking always try to do two things:mix player roles with the "opposite" of what they are supposed to be doing - eg have a DLP on defend -and- more importantly try to have different attacking outlets: rather than having an if on both sides make one a winger/wmidfielder.
5. Wing backs are more effective than fbs in FM14 especially behind Ifs.
6. Id set up your first tactic as follows: wbs for fbs automatic; dlp def and bwm support; winger (L - if you have left footed players otherwise make the winger the right one) support, AM/Shadow striker attack, If attack and P attack
7. Id change the second tactic along those lines as well.
8. BTW Ive found that in FM14 the most effective thing tactics wise is rigidity: having rigid philosophy and telling players to stick to positions ...
 
When you play possession football with high line, the other team cramps the spaces, so you the attempts are poor at times. As a Chelsea fan, it pains me to see Chelsea struggle to score in this game (Just like in real life, lol).

I'd say play Oscar in midfield as DLP (D), he has shoots from distance PPM which is horrible for Playmaker as he'll shoot instead of passing. He also has good tackling, his tackling went to 13-14 in my save. Also teach him "Plays through balls". I also prefer to use a box to box instead of BWM. Chalobah develops good for that.

Use De Bruyne as no.10. I got Fernando Torres to score screamers against the likes of City! :D

I play high tempo counter attacking tactic though. Idc if board keeps crying, I keep the job 'cause I keep winning. ;)

I also use Hazard and Mata as IF(support) and they're insanely good. Mata scores a lot and Hazard assists a lot. I also have Lukaku as my primary striker. I developed his passing and technique, He has high teamwork. I play him as Target Man (support), he also scores a buttload. I've taught him "Shoots with power" PPM, Eto'o is terrible, get rid of him.

I also play JT as stopper and Cahill as cover. When I play Luiz I play him on defend. I've found Ramires isn't good fit for possession football, he's a beast for Counter Attacking football.

Playing possession football successfully is a difficult task to accomplish in FM as well as in real life.

I don't play only C-A tactic, but my possession tactic is well drilled, I've made so many changes in my team according to it, I've set player instructions to play as precise as possible. For eg I use Wing backs as supporting midfielders when I'm attacking, not just defenders. I play regista and a technical box to box who can control tempo (he's DLP but seems to control game outside opposition's box as B2B ). Hazard, KdB, Mata are my creative players. All of them play through balls and up top a monster named Lukaku.

Also, play a high line if you want to press high.

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iota4u said:
right, the 4-2-3-1 is tricky in 14.2, with IF's you want a f9 as a striker, to disrupt the defence, luckily you have costa and i assuming still have torres? they are decent F9's.

Hey, i am playing 4-2-3-1, and i use If`s, but if you use a F9, wouldnt he just interupt the amc sort of, as he is in that space, wouldnt it be more beneficial to use a advanced forward or something?
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AayushCFC said:
When you play possession football with high line, the other team cramps the spaces, so you the attempts are poor at times. As a Chelsea fan, it pains me to see Chelsea struggle to score in this game (Just like in real life, lol).

I'd say play Oscar in midfield as DLP (D), he has shoots from distance PPM which is horrible for Playmaker as he'll shoot instead of passing. He also has good tackling, his tackling went to 13-14 in my save. Also teach him "Plays through balls". I also prefer to use a box to box instead of BWM. Chalobah develops good for that.

Use De Bruyne as no.10. I got Fernando Torres to score screamers against the likes of City! :D

I play high tempo counter attacking tactic though. Idc if board keeps crying, I keep the job 'cause I keep winning. ;)

I also use Hazard and Mata as IF(support) and they're insanely good. Mata scores a lot and Hazard assists a lot. I also have Lukaku as my primary striker. I developed his passing and technique, He has high teamwork. I play him as Target Man (support), he also scores a buttload. I've taught him "Shoots with power" PPM, Eto'o is terrible, get rid of him.

I also play JT as stopper and Cahill as cover. When I play Luiz I play him on defend. I've found Ramires isn't good fit for possession football, he's a beast for Counter Attacking football.

Playing possession football successfully is a difficult task to accomplish in FM as well as in real life.

I don't play only C-A tactic, but my possession tactic is well drilled, I've made so many changes in my team according to it, I've set player instructions to play as precise as possible. For eg I use Wing backs as supporting midfielders when I'm attacking, not just defenders. I play regista and a technical box to box who can control tempo (he's DLP but seems to control game outside opposition's box as B2B ). Hazard, KdB, Mata are my creative players. All of them play through balls and up top a monster named Lukaku.

Also, play a high line if you want to press high.

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Firstly thanks for the help, as with everyone else.

Regarding the high line, I tried that but was caught out a lot of time from a through ball which led to goals. (I don't want to be like AVB !!! ;) )
May I ask who your box-to-box and regista is? I only have Ramires, Essien and Lampard as CM's (I sold Mikel as I hate him IRL!)
Chalobah and Baker are progressing nicely but I don't think I can rely on them as my main CMs yet.
I was actually really successful with my possession football last season with an average of 60-65% per game but I wasn't scoring enough goals so I went with the 4-4-2 which ended up winning me the league (just!)
Who would you and this goes to anyone, recommend signing for the DLP or Regista. A Xavi type player would be good who is more-or-less in their prime. I have tried Koke, Gundogan, Vidal, Pogba, Marchisio (Yep Juve did well last season in my game :) )
but they are even too expensive or not interested. Ramsey also. I have been successful with Strootman though and is ready to be confirmed. I have ?35m approx. to spend but want a LB (as Cole wants to leave) as well as probably one or two class midfielders.
I also have Lewandowski joining on a free so I will have him, Diego Costa, Didier Drogba (he returned and won me the league), Lukaku and Morata. Bamford and Feruz will also be given some games. Sold Torres to A.Madrid for Costa + Mikel. Eto'o is leaving. If I played one up top who would you play out of these??

Thanks :)
 
If you have Drogba, Lukaku and Morata, you're best served using them as TM. They're lethal in that role. I'd say Lukaku (he, like Mitrovic, scores for fun). Morata would need a little boosting in some places, but otherwise, yeah..

Try going for James Ward-Prowse - He's excellent as a DLP. Maybe Nick Powell. Another Midfielder you can look for is Schneiderlin, although he's more BTB. Plus, HG cover. For LB, try Luke Shaw (although he'll likely be too expensive), Alex Sandro, Jonathan Silva, Davide Santon. But a single striker upfront may not be ideal, simply due to the massive number of strikers you have..
 
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I also got Drogba on free next season, also success with possession football is about using the possession to score, not just possession stats ;)
I've trained lampard to be my Regista, I've also bought Lars Bender who I play in multiple roles but does well as Regista too. My box to box player is Chalobah, I gave him first team football and he's easily my best CM (second best? As I use Oscar as CM), the dude develops into a monster with proper care, better version of Yaya Toure if you will. I bought Ward-Prowse but he's injures for 6 months, unlikely to play for me again.

AVB's high line was stupid and he was stubborn. Mourinho has gotten Terry to play slightly high line without a problem. I have pacey defenders in Balanta and Luiz. I have a regen coming through my Academy as Cole's replacement, I'll use him as backup with Bertrand as no.1 for a year, then sell Bertie for 15-20M and use my Academy graduate.

Also a good no.10 for your system may be "Juan Fernando Quintero" He has stats and PPMs needed. (This is if you've sold KdB).

Charley Musonda is a box to box to keep an eye on in U18, Jeremie Boga can be trained as B2B as well if you want.

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Thanks, i'll have a look at Schneiderlin and Ward-Prowse.

And AayushCFC, I was scoring goals but compared to the amount of chances wasn't scoring enough. Making loads of CC chances per game but only winning 2-1 or 1-0. Torres was pathetically useless and Eto'o was even worse which is strange as his attributes are good.
 
Yea, Eto'o is terrible. Torres performs okay for me, but inconsistent. One game he's total beast, next game he's a donkey. And it's the same problem as Chelsea in Real life, we're kinda doomed, lol. We've most probably created second most chances after City, but have scored more than 2 goals rarely in PL.
 
im having the same problem with manutd , i won the league 1st season with my goals coming from defenders and midfield, my strikers aint scoring and i only won the league due to other teams being poor!
 
craigbroadleyx said:
im having the same problem with manutd , i won the league 1st season with my goals coming from defenders and midfield, my strikers aint scoring and i only won the league due to other teams being poor!
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Actually, ingame, that should happen with Chelsea mainly. Their initial strikers are **** (since Lukaku is on loan). United have van Persie and Rooney, who frankly, are monsters ingame. van Persie got a goal a game for 2 seasons for me.
 
Sherkey said:
Actually, ingame, that should happen with Chelsea mainly. Their initial strikers are **** (since Lukaku is on loan). United have van Persie and Rooney, who frankly, are monsters ingame. van Persie got a goal a game for 2 seasons for me.
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Yeah, I got Rooney via editor at Chelsea and he managed to score 44 goals in 36 games. O.O Now I know why Mourinho thought he'd a be perfect fit xD
 
I've noticed a lot more success with a bit more rigid setup up top. Try to limit your offensive players responsibilities. Imo strikers should not be creators. They should find space and score goals and my amc should only find the killer passes. The big/small partnership still works but I prefer two selfish consistent scorers up top. So I use two poachers.

I use an AP and two CMs to play killer balls. Tho the CMs also work in defense. If they cant find the pass they push higher up and get support from two complete wing backs. Which gives me 2 more players with attacking mentality. The cwb is perfect for posession systems imo, once you pile on the pressure you need more players to look to score.

So to sum it up, put more players to attack, but spread them out. Having all your players with attack mentality crowd the box is useless, have some arrive later.

As for team talks Ive found a trick that seems to work. Build up the pressure in the press (compliment managers and teams like crazy), elminates complacensy completely and makes some players nervous. Then right before the game take away all the pressure and calm them down (go out and have some fun). Puts them in all in that perfect state. If first half was bad, they are probably nervous and frustrated, just say "unlucky", if they play well, the game is in the bag. Tell them they played well and theyll turn into calm composed beast and with that, hit everything on target and score like crazy.

After the game build up their confidence and compliment them if they played well. If you dont get a press conference before the next game, rotate your squad or challenge them assertively (expect a performance).
 
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This is getting out of hand now. Both me and the opposition are missing, no word of a lie, 3-4 one on one chances each every game. My strikers haven't scored for 5 games between them and all goals from both me and the opponents are coming from Direct FKs and corners. It feels like a bug or fixed or something the amount of chances i'm missing and i'm not even talking about the woodwork being hit!!
 
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