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I noticed not many threads in regards to a world cup challenge. To repeat the success of Hiddink in 2002 and 2006 as well as many minnow teams fighting it out for World Cup Glory.
Rules I'm following:
Win the world cup without using a team in the top 32 nations as of the start of the game or any of the current top 32 teams as of 14th Jan. And cannot be a team already Qualified for the world cup or in the Playoff matches. (so first world cup games are 2018)
List of Banned international teams at start of game:
1. Spain
2. Germany
3. Colombia
4. Argentina
5. Netherlands
6. Italy
7. Croatia
8. Portugal
9. Brazil
10. Belgium
11. Greece
12. Uruguay
13. Ivory Coast
14. Bosnia Herzegovina
15. England
16. Switzerland
17. Russia
18. Ecuador
19. Peru
20. Mexico
21. Chile
22. USA
23. France
24. Ghana
25. Norway
26. Czech Republic
27. Denmark
28. Mali
29. Ukraine
30. Montenegro
31. Sweeden
32. Hungary
Ones in the current top 32 not listed above also banned:
Algeria
Serbia
Sloviena
Costa Rica
Teams still Qualifying
If your looking at a team who is in the Qualifying stages and not in the top 32. Create a manager and just sim past the playoff stage and then see if they made it in or not (save it before the playoffs). If they didn?t get in, the suggestion is to then create a new manager and take over the team, then retire the original one. Simming past the 2014 stage then taking a team that competed in the 2014 world cup in game is not allowed.. don?t be cheap. Idea is for a WC challenge not a stroll in the park.
Starting Conditions:
Must load up the bigger leagues on each continent: England, Italy, Spain, Germany, France, Brazil, Argentina, South Africa, USA, Korea, Australia.
- Can load up the league of the nation of your choice if it?s in the game but not listed above.
Attribute masking is on
Sunday League Footballer Experience
England (9th July) start.
NO editor data or custom leagues.
My Nation of choice and why.
There are a few good options I can begin with for my International team. Scotland, Ireland, and Wales are available and each have a future place in world cups but.
I?ve decided to go for a bit more of a Challenge and not pick either of them but instead head to China.
The China team are ranked 100th in the rankings at the beginning of FM14 and as of Jan 14th they are ranked 92nd and the Chinese Super League is ranked 2 stars.
Before selecting them and going through their Senior Squad. They have only 1 player playing outside of China and that is **** Shangyuan, Age 20 who plays for Club Brugge
The value of their u19?s and u21?s are 200k or below.
I think it would be a worthwhile challenge.
So what makes the challenge?
Asian Qualifying:
Being an Australian, I have some knowledge of the qualifying rounds of the Asian federation. It was something all Aussies had to pick up recently when in 2005 (After Australia Qualified for 2006 World cup via the Oceania Playoff route vs Uruguay) FIFA announced that after the World cup Australia will cease being an Oceania team and now Qualify via the Asian route. The reason for this was that Australia was just unfairly beating the little nations into the ground most of the time with only New Zealand barely being able to amount a Challenge. We would have second string teams beat nations 24-0 and 32-0 and our European contingent of players just had no reason to fly half way around the world to play for us except for the Playoffs.
The ?this is your life? part aside.
Asian qualifying has 4 rounds.
1st round is to weed out the lower ranked teams by pitting them against each other in a winner takes all two legged knockout stage (teams ranked 28th ? 43rd in Asia)
Second round adds the 8 winners from above along with the teams from ranked 6-27 once again in a two legged Knockout round. (Where china entered in the 2014 quals)
The Third round is the top 5 in Asia making their first appearance along with the 15 winners above and are drawn into 5 groups of 4. They play each other twice with the top two teams moving onto the Fourth round
The Fourth round is another group stage where the 10 winners and runner up teams are drawn into two groups. The top two in these two groups qualify for the world. Whereas the third place teams play each other in two legged knockout and the winner of that then has to play a playoff vs another team from another confederation (5th in South America, 4th in CONCACAF or the Oceania team iirc) and the winner of that playoff goes to the world cup.
In the 2014 World cup Quals, China where ranked 16th best Asian team in the seedings (so second round entry) and defeated Laos 13-3 on Aggregate but then got knocked out in third round, finishing third in their group nine points ahead of Singapore (0) who failed to register a point and behind Iraq (15) and Jordan (12) who finished first and second respectively.
They have only made the world cup once, in 2002, when Korea and Japan automatically qualified. They finished last in their group with 0 points. Losing 2-0 to Costa Rica, 4-0 to Brazil and 3-0 in Turkey.
Besides the world cup, China also competes in the Asian Cup (Euro cup equiv) which runs every four years with the next being in 2015.
The host Automatically qualifies along with the top three of the previous Asian cup and the two winners of the previous Challenge cups which are for the real low team minnows which China isn?t apart of.
The rest of the teams go into a group into 5 groups of 4 with the top 2 qualifying and the best third place team as well.
In real life as of Jan 14th China are second in the group, 2 points ahead of Iraq with 1 game to play.. which is against Iraq, away. (Iraq?s home games are on Neutral soil which is usual Jordan or UAE hosting it. Still tough to play in those countries cause the weather is different.)
In game it appears however that previous games that were played prior to the start game (which is 1 game) as well as the fixtures aren?t actually the same as in Real life. While the group is exactly the same, the fixtures aren?t. Which is strange for SI because I?m sure the fixtures would have come out at the same date as the group draw.
They also compete in the East Asian cup. A 4 team group that consists of China, S Korea and Japan + 1 qualfying team.
No Asian team has won the world cup.
So lets begin!
Chinese National Team 2013
So, my Fixture/Result list for 2013 is as follows:
4-0 win at home against Indonesia prior to start.
14/8Iraq Asian Cup A W 3-2
I won 2-3 Away to Iraq and it was a close one. I called up a young squad in hopes of getting some players set for WP?s. I took a 1-0 lead before it became 1-1. Then got a 2-1 lead going into half time. Went 3-1 up after the break before Iraq got down to 10 men. However, they got one back 2 mins after the red card and for the remaining half hour they siege the goal hitting the wood work twice. They finished with 21 shots to my 5.
Asian cup Qual group as it stands
China Pl2 W2 D0 L0 F7 A2 P6
Saudi Pl2 W1 D1 L0 G4 A3 P4
Indo Pl2 W0 D1 L1 G2 A6 P1
Iraq Pl2 W0 D0 L2 G3 A5 P0
6/9 U.A.E Friendly A Lost 5-2
Played a very young squad in the hopes of seeing what there is.. sort of regret the keeper choice, played more like he was afraid of the ball. Keeper Mechanics change please SI. My defense was really young and under skilled but my attack tho young showed promise, they had to clear the ball about 3-4 times off the line.
10/9 Oman Friendly H 1-1 Draw
Disappointed with that result I had 16 shots to 10, 4 CCC?s to 0 but only 2 shots on target to their 5. Didn?t make the most of chances and I have slipped to 103 in the rankings so far.
11/10 Saudi Arabia Asian Cup H 2-1 Win
My good start to competitive games continues. I lost my main striker and went a goal down but a suprising pass from my RB to my RST to my LCM who found the open LB was just brilliant piece of attacking football. I then manage to get my target man striker into some space and put him through. I?m very pleased with this game.
The other game ended in a draw so I?m 7 points clear from 3rd with 9 pts to play for.
Asian Cup Qual Standings
China Pl3 W3 D0 L0 F9 A3 P9
Saudi Pl3 W1 D1 L1 F5 A 5 P4
Indo Pl3 W0 D2 L1 F3 A7 P2
Iraq Pl3 W0 D1 L2 F4 A6 P1
15/10 North Korea Friendly H Lost 1-2
My friendly?s just aren?t working for me, I slipped to another disappointing loss. Hopefully my competitive record keeps rising.
15/11 Indonesia Asian Cup A Win 4-2
Squad selection had me worried. I play 5 at the back and when I first saw the squad list I had 5 injuries.. all defenders. SO I played the current Liverpool way, Score more then the opposition. This result means I qualify for the Asian cup. I believe that finishing first or second doesn?t matter as it is based on your Ranking rather then ur finish.
Table Standings as of this game:
China Pl4 W4 D0 L0 F13 A5 P12
Saudi Pl3 W1 D1 L1 F5 A 5 P4
Indo Pl4 W0 D2 L2 F5 A11 P2
Iraq Pl3 W0 D1 L2 F4 A6 P1
Thus Ends the Year 2013
Games (not including the win in the asian cup game prior to starting)
China: P6 W3 D1 L2 F13 A13
World Ranking: 100 at start. 31st of Dec I finished in 90th.
Rules I'm following:
Win the world cup without using a team in the top 32 nations as of the start of the game or any of the current top 32 teams as of 14th Jan. And cannot be a team already Qualified for the world cup or in the Playoff matches. (so first world cup games are 2018)
List of Banned international teams at start of game:
1. Spain
2. Germany
3. Colombia
4. Argentina
5. Netherlands
6. Italy
7. Croatia
8. Portugal
9. Brazil
10. Belgium
11. Greece
12. Uruguay
13. Ivory Coast
14. Bosnia Herzegovina
15. England
16. Switzerland
17. Russia
18. Ecuador
19. Peru
20. Mexico
21. Chile
22. USA
23. France
24. Ghana
25. Norway
26. Czech Republic
27. Denmark
28. Mali
29. Ukraine
30. Montenegro
31. Sweeden
32. Hungary
Ones in the current top 32 not listed above also banned:
Algeria
Serbia
Sloviena
Costa Rica
Teams still Qualifying
If your looking at a team who is in the Qualifying stages and not in the top 32. Create a manager and just sim past the playoff stage and then see if they made it in or not (save it before the playoffs). If they didn?t get in, the suggestion is to then create a new manager and take over the team, then retire the original one. Simming past the 2014 stage then taking a team that competed in the 2014 world cup in game is not allowed.. don?t be cheap. Idea is for a WC challenge not a stroll in the park.
Starting Conditions:
Must load up the bigger leagues on each continent: England, Italy, Spain, Germany, France, Brazil, Argentina, South Africa, USA, Korea, Australia.
- Can load up the league of the nation of your choice if it?s in the game but not listed above.
Attribute masking is on
Sunday League Footballer Experience
England (9th July) start.
NO editor data or custom leagues.
My Nation of choice and why.
There are a few good options I can begin with for my International team. Scotland, Ireland, and Wales are available and each have a future place in world cups but.
I?ve decided to go for a bit more of a Challenge and not pick either of them but instead head to China.
The China team are ranked 100th in the rankings at the beginning of FM14 and as of Jan 14th they are ranked 92nd and the Chinese Super League is ranked 2 stars.
Before selecting them and going through their Senior Squad. They have only 1 player playing outside of China and that is **** Shangyuan, Age 20 who plays for Club Brugge
The value of their u19?s and u21?s are 200k or below.
I think it would be a worthwhile challenge.
So what makes the challenge?
Asian Qualifying:
Being an Australian, I have some knowledge of the qualifying rounds of the Asian federation. It was something all Aussies had to pick up recently when in 2005 (After Australia Qualified for 2006 World cup via the Oceania Playoff route vs Uruguay) FIFA announced that after the World cup Australia will cease being an Oceania team and now Qualify via the Asian route. The reason for this was that Australia was just unfairly beating the little nations into the ground most of the time with only New Zealand barely being able to amount a Challenge. We would have second string teams beat nations 24-0 and 32-0 and our European contingent of players just had no reason to fly half way around the world to play for us except for the Playoffs.
The ?this is your life? part aside.
Asian qualifying has 4 rounds.
1st round is to weed out the lower ranked teams by pitting them against each other in a winner takes all two legged knockout stage (teams ranked 28th ? 43rd in Asia)
Second round adds the 8 winners from above along with the teams from ranked 6-27 once again in a two legged Knockout round. (Where china entered in the 2014 quals)
The Third round is the top 5 in Asia making their first appearance along with the 15 winners above and are drawn into 5 groups of 4. They play each other twice with the top two teams moving onto the Fourth round
The Fourth round is another group stage where the 10 winners and runner up teams are drawn into two groups. The top two in these two groups qualify for the world. Whereas the third place teams play each other in two legged knockout and the winner of that then has to play a playoff vs another team from another confederation (5th in South America, 4th in CONCACAF or the Oceania team iirc) and the winner of that playoff goes to the world cup.
In the 2014 World cup Quals, China where ranked 16th best Asian team in the seedings (so second round entry) and defeated Laos 13-3 on Aggregate but then got knocked out in third round, finishing third in their group nine points ahead of Singapore (0) who failed to register a point and behind Iraq (15) and Jordan (12) who finished first and second respectively.
They have only made the world cup once, in 2002, when Korea and Japan automatically qualified. They finished last in their group with 0 points. Losing 2-0 to Costa Rica, 4-0 to Brazil and 3-0 in Turkey.
Besides the world cup, China also competes in the Asian Cup (Euro cup equiv) which runs every four years with the next being in 2015.
The host Automatically qualifies along with the top three of the previous Asian cup and the two winners of the previous Challenge cups which are for the real low team minnows which China isn?t apart of.
The rest of the teams go into a group into 5 groups of 4 with the top 2 qualifying and the best third place team as well.
In real life as of Jan 14th China are second in the group, 2 points ahead of Iraq with 1 game to play.. which is against Iraq, away. (Iraq?s home games are on Neutral soil which is usual Jordan or UAE hosting it. Still tough to play in those countries cause the weather is different.)
In game it appears however that previous games that were played prior to the start game (which is 1 game) as well as the fixtures aren?t actually the same as in Real life. While the group is exactly the same, the fixtures aren?t. Which is strange for SI because I?m sure the fixtures would have come out at the same date as the group draw.
They also compete in the East Asian cup. A 4 team group that consists of China, S Korea and Japan + 1 qualfying team.
No Asian team has won the world cup.
So lets begin!
Chinese National Team 2013
So, my Fixture/Result list for 2013 is as follows:
4-0 win at home against Indonesia prior to start.
14/8Iraq Asian Cup A W 3-2
I won 2-3 Away to Iraq and it was a close one. I called up a young squad in hopes of getting some players set for WP?s. I took a 1-0 lead before it became 1-1. Then got a 2-1 lead going into half time. Went 3-1 up after the break before Iraq got down to 10 men. However, they got one back 2 mins after the red card and for the remaining half hour they siege the goal hitting the wood work twice. They finished with 21 shots to my 5.
Asian cup Qual group as it stands
China Pl2 W2 D0 L0 F7 A2 P6
Saudi Pl2 W1 D1 L0 G4 A3 P4
Indo Pl2 W0 D1 L1 G2 A6 P1
Iraq Pl2 W0 D0 L2 G3 A5 P0
6/9 U.A.E Friendly A Lost 5-2
Played a very young squad in the hopes of seeing what there is.. sort of regret the keeper choice, played more like he was afraid of the ball. Keeper Mechanics change please SI. My defense was really young and under skilled but my attack tho young showed promise, they had to clear the ball about 3-4 times off the line.
10/9 Oman Friendly H 1-1 Draw
Disappointed with that result I had 16 shots to 10, 4 CCC?s to 0 but only 2 shots on target to their 5. Didn?t make the most of chances and I have slipped to 103 in the rankings so far.
11/10 Saudi Arabia Asian Cup H 2-1 Win
My good start to competitive games continues. I lost my main striker and went a goal down but a suprising pass from my RB to my RST to my LCM who found the open LB was just brilliant piece of attacking football. I then manage to get my target man striker into some space and put him through. I?m very pleased with this game.
The other game ended in a draw so I?m 7 points clear from 3rd with 9 pts to play for.
Asian Cup Qual Standings
China Pl3 W3 D0 L0 F9 A3 P9
Saudi Pl3 W1 D1 L1 F5 A 5 P4
Indo Pl3 W0 D2 L1 F3 A7 P2
Iraq Pl3 W0 D1 L2 F4 A6 P1
15/10 North Korea Friendly H Lost 1-2
My friendly?s just aren?t working for me, I slipped to another disappointing loss. Hopefully my competitive record keeps rising.
15/11 Indonesia Asian Cup A Win 4-2
Squad selection had me worried. I play 5 at the back and when I first saw the squad list I had 5 injuries.. all defenders. SO I played the current Liverpool way, Score more then the opposition. This result means I qualify for the Asian cup. I believe that finishing first or second doesn?t matter as it is based on your Ranking rather then ur finish.
Table Standings as of this game:
China Pl4 W4 D0 L0 F13 A5 P12
Saudi Pl3 W1 D1 L1 F5 A 5 P4
Indo Pl4 W0 D2 L2 F5 A11 P2
Iraq Pl3 W0 D1 L2 F4 A6 P1
Thus Ends the Year 2013
Games (not including the win in the asian cup game prior to starting)
China: P6 W3 D1 L2 F13 A13
World Ranking: 100 at start. 31st of Dec I finished in 90th.
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