World's Greatest Ever Player

Greatest Player Ever?

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No Garrincha??? He was the most skillful player to ever play the game!

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Also what about Lev Yashin??? Greatest keeper ever!
 
Tonas579 said:
No Garrincha??? He was the most skillful player to ever play the game!

---------- Post added at 02:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:59 PM ----------

Also what about Lev Yashin??? Greatest keeper ever!
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As I am only 14 I know very little about yashin, though I have read about him. I think I will start a new poll, taking into consideration all of the comments that have been made.
 
Maradona. He pulled Argentina to a world cup singlehandedly (pun intended). He pulled Napoli to success singlehandedly. This at the time when defenders took no prisoners and if they got near him they punted him four foot in the air without a foul being given. This while he was also, erm, living life to the full in Napoli's red light district. Pele had a decent team around him, Best showed only the briefest of glimpses of the kind of quality to elevate him to the company of those in the real highest levels of the hall of fame.

As for Zidane as best ever? He wasn't even Juve's best ever foreign import - their fans reckon it was a Welshman by the name of John Charles. He's also regularly voted best ever player to have played in Serie A. That's how good he was. He pulled Wales to a world cup and got them to a quarter-final. He was injured, so was the regular Welsh goalie and they both missed the match. Wales lost 1-0. A late goal scored by a teenager called Pele. If he were Brazillian he'd be classed as the greatest ever, shame he's been so forgotten by the British Isles.

http://www.nationalfootballmuseum.com/pages/fame/Inductees/johncharles.htm
 
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L33TM4N4G4 said:
Milk camout of my nose. May God praise your capability of noticing strange things and your sense of humour, good sir.
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aha as funny as the comment said was, i think he mentioned before that he supports arsenal, but coaches with tottenham or somthing like that, how true it is i really dont know/care. but still funny stuff
 
I'm votting for Diego Maradona becouse his dribble was been the best in the world.
 
diego maradona for me. he is the best modern football.
raul gonzalez should be on that list. he is a world class player. and coming generation will remember as one of the madrid greats.
 
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Lev yashin for goalkeeper
michel platini for striker!!!
Del piero set piece taker
zidane the dribbler
scirea,zbigniew boniek!!!
 
you cant compare player from back then to the new genration players because they played under diffrent circumstances and technology
 
Gk: Cassilas
Defender: Aldair,Hierro
Midle: Redondo,Zidane,Maradona,Messi
Forward: Batistuta,Totti,Raul
 
so fan of raul I am, he should eb on the list (because he was better than henry comparing both primes) but never made it to best player ever, but funny that finally someone mentioned batistuta, redondo or Hierro. Casillas is definetly the best goalkeeper now but can he be compared to lev yashin who by the way is impossible to find a full game of him due to playing in the soviet union and so. I believe knowing our ages (16 to 25 roughly) we can only vote for 95 onwards players. I may do a pool actually.
 
I am big fun of redondo and batistuta. Also think that most of the solid players that played 85 and later wouldnt be able to be a star player with today's level of football
 
Sinth said:
I am big fun of redondo and batistuta. Also think that most of the solid players that played 85 and later wouldnt be able to be a star player with today's level of football
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No, I don't think so because for example Messi is clearly a maradona type of player and he is considered best in the world (or second) for example. I think guys like Papin (amazing french striker) or Van Basten (no introduction required) would perfectly be able to play in big teams nowaday. Or Koeman, Matthaus would still be class, I think football of the 50-60's is definetly different but frankly besides types of playing by teams (teams play differently not players) and honestly as you said yourself batistuta could without any kind of problem play today. Or, to put it another way, couldn't Zidane play in the great 84 france team? Or Messi in the great 86 Argentina?
Just an opinion though.
 
Football has change a lot after 95. Of course Van Basten , Maradona and such could easily play. But imagine a more static player. Like redondo . Or a short player like romario,ortega(ofc messi is short too but he is different :P). Batistuta was the ideal lone striker and zidane's playing style was oldskool :P
 
Arsenal&co said:
you cant compare player from back then to the new genration players because they played under diffrent circumstances and technology
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You can, but you're right that you need to take the differing circumstances into account. If John Charles could head a wet heavy leather ball to the half-way line from his own box in the 50s, he'd be able to head the modern flyaway balls much, much, much further...

The thing to remember too is just how well these modern players would do without the high tech coaching and training they receive now. Can you imagine a modern player being able to turn up and lead a team to Premier League success while hammering the booze from post-match Saturday til mid-day Friday? It happened in the seventies... How much better a player would modern techniques have made Maradona? Or Pele? Or Eusebio? Or Matthews?

Mind you, how many of the great 80s players have performed without their daily injection of what we'd consider to be performing enhancing drugs these days (Marseilles became infamous for dosing their players, and it was certainly not unusual in 80s Italy either...).
 
kinda agree here, maybe before football wasn't the realm of athletes like it is today, meaning that maybe more ''average'' nowadays players could have played back in the 50-60's. Not to mention that tactics were completely different, sometimes playing 334 or things like that. Alas I don't think doping is out of this sport, nor some weird arbitrald ecisions or the even weirder fact that nobody in the FIFA or UEFA wants to have a video referee. Truth is, in my opinion this sport moves far too much money to be clean.
And Sinth I see more or less where you're going and I kinda agree but as a HUGE Redondo fan I have to say in his defence that xavi is static and hasn't prevented him from being considered one of the best playmakers in the world (or the best). I think football changed after holland late 70's and 80's, cruyiff's barça and mid 90's ajax, who gave a whole new poitn of viesw of football (from which the tiki-taka is derivated) thus requiring new players. So, Xavi is static yes but would be key player in any team in the world.
 
Close one Zidane, Maradonna and Pele all on 20.

But whos been voting for Cristiano Ronaldo. Cmn man why is he even there.
 
L33TM4N4G4 said:
Milk camout of my nose. May God praise your capability of noticing strange things and your sense of humour, good sir.
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lol i try

Zebedee said:
Maradona. He pulled Argentina to a world cup singlehandedly (pun intended). He pulled Napoli to success singlehandedly. This at the time when defenders took no prisoners and if they got near him they punted him four foot in the air without a foul being given. This while he was also, erm, living life to the full in Napoli's red light district. Pele had a decent team around him, Best showed only the briefest of glimpses of the kind of quality to elevate him to the company of those in the real highest levels of the hall of fame.

As for Zidane as best ever? He wasn't even Juve's best ever foreign import - their fans reckon it was a Welshman by the name of John Charles. He's also regularly voted best ever player to have played in Serie A. That's how good he was. He pulled Wales to a world cup and got them to a quarter-final. He was injured, so was the regular Welsh goalie and they both missed the match. Wales lost 1-0. A late goal scored by a teenager called Pele. If he were Brazillian he'd be classed as the greatest ever, shame he's been so forgotten by the British Isles.

http://www.nationalfootballmuseum.com/pages/fame/Inductees/johncharles.htm
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great shout, totally forgot about Charles, can't believe I did. Although Zidane would be up there.


Sinth said:
Gk: Cassilas
Defender: Aldair,Hierro
Midle: Redondo,Zidane,Maradona,Messi
Forward: Batistuta,Totti,Raul
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Roma fan? :P I know Aldiar was decent, but he was hardly a world beater. maybe if Brazil won the 98 WC...

And I don't think Totti/Batigol come into the same class as Raul either.


Arsenal&co said:
you cant compare player from back then to the new genration players because they played under diffrent circumstances and technology
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Zebedee said:
You can, but you're right that you need to take the differing circumstances into account. If John Charles could head a wet heavy leather ball to the half-way line from his own box in the 50s, he'd be able to head the modern flyaway balls much, much, much further...

The thing to remember too is just how well these modern players would do without the high tech coaching and training they receive now. Can you imagine a modern player being able to turn up and lead a team to Premier League success while hammering the booze from post-match Saturday til mid-day Friday? It happened in the seventies... How much better a player would modern techniques have made Maradona? Or Pele? Or Eusebio? Or Matthews?

Mind you, how many of the great 80s players have performed without their daily injection of what we'd consider to be performing enhancing drugs these days (Marseilles became infamous for dosing their players, and it was certainly not unusual in 80s Italy either...).
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Yeah Zeb is right about modern techniques. Although on the other hand mate, I know modern footballers get all the training, nutrition etc but can you imagine them as current athletes playing in the 50s/60s.

Also Arsenal + co, thats what makes these debates so good :P.

One more thing, not sure if he has been mentioned yet but Bobby Charlton should be up there. Legend. I always thought he was right-footed but I've seen him hit some ridiculous left footers too. and going by his success, Giggs probably could be up there. My Dad also tells me that as strikers went, Daglish was as good as any in the 80s for Liverpool.
 
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