20 Aggresion Good or Bad

[Ursulla]

How do you consider it with regards to all the opposition instructions...Is it good for tight Marking or you are going to use him on zonal Marking...How do instruct him to tackle?How do you instruct him to close down....?How do consider a player with 20 aggression?Do you have such players?How do you find them in general,more useful or more harmful?How to make the most out of a player with 20 aggression?How to constrain the beast?

 

[kellergrey]

Aggression is more about how much the player is prepared to involve himself in the game. So high aggression is a good thing. It's dirtiness, sportsmanship & decisions that determine if he is going to do Keane-esque tackles. Having said that, a player with higher aggression is more likely to pick up cards than a similar player with lower aggression as he will attempt more tackles.

 

[Ursulla]

Aggression is more about how much the player is prepared to involve himself in the game. So high aggression is a good thing. It's dirtiness, sportsmanship & decisions that determine if he is going to do Keane-esque tackles. Having said that, a player with higher aggression is more likely to pick up cards than a similar player with lower aggression as he will attempt more tackles.

So in Team instructions there is an instruction to go Stuck-in...If I have 11 players with 20 aggression each ,and I will instruct them to go STUCK-IN would be bloodshed on the field?

 

[thunderblood]

Aggression means how aggressive a player will tackle and act in duels. Aggression might not be a good stat for players not playing either in defense or a ball winning midfielder,since they might get a stupid red card.
But a defender without aggression will make him play softer than needed to,so high aggression is a good thing for tackling roles.

 

[kellergrey]

Get stuck in sets tackling to Hard. It's the hidden attributes like sportsmanship & dirtiness that determine if it's going to be a nasty tackle or not. I find aggression good in a striker as he is always hunting the ball down around the box. I look at is work rate will make the player run around, aggression will make him actually get on the ball. The way the game would see it is Tevez is aggressive as he is always running to get on the ball, Suarez is aggressive & dirty/unsporting as he also chases the ball a lot but is prone to doing ridiculous things! I'm a Liverpool fan btw

 

[Ursulla]

Aggression means how aggressive a player will tackle and act in duels. Aggression might not be a good stat for players not playing either in defense or a ball winning midfielder,since they might get a stupid red card.
But a defender without aggression will make him play softer than needed to,so high aggression is a good thing for tackling roles.

What would you figure would be the ideal stat for a player to have aggression?And would your answer would be different if he is a goalkkeeper or a Central defender or a full back or central midefield or a winger or a striker?

 

[Ursulla]

Get stuck in sets tackling to Hard. It's the hidden attributes like sportsmanship & dirtiness that determine if it's going to be a nasty tackle or not. I find aggression good in a striker as he is always hunting the ball down around the box. I look at is work rate will make the player run around, aggression will make him actually get on the ball. The way the game would see it is Tevez is aggressive as he is always running to get on the ball, Suarez is aggressive & dirty/unsporting as he also chases the ball a lot but is prone to doing ridiculous things! I'm a Liverpool fan btw

So a player with aggression 20 and tackling 1 would break his leg while someone with aggression 20 and tackling 20 will cleanly shake him off the ball?

 

[kellergrey]

It's all linked so no one thing works on it's own, an aggressive player with poor tackling may miss the tackle or make a horlicks of it & get carded or if he has poor decisions may just wipe someone out. Having said that I don't like aggression over 17 as then the player can try too many tackles & that increases the chances of him seeing a card. 15 tends to be a good figure for most positions, 16-17 for a smart centre mid or attacking players. I'm not sure how it affects keepers as they have some different attributes affecting their behaviour.

 

[kellergrey]

So a player with aggression 20 and tackling 1 would break his leg while someone with aggression 20 and tackling 20 will cleanly shake him off the ball?

Dirtiness plays a part too, but yes, I wouldn't want an aggressive player with **** tackling putting any hard tackles in.

 

[Ursulla]

What Other attributes would benefit from having 20 aggression?What other attributes would be being damaged to have 20 Aggression?What tactic should be used if you are having lots of aggressive players?What tactic should be used for a team without any aggressive players?

 

[kellergrey]

All players need some aggression or they won't do anything, it's like the switch that makes players do what they are thinking of, e.g. A defender looking to tackle someone will be using marking & positioning to be in the right place, anticipation to predict what the attacking player will do, decisions to decide what to do, composure to keep his cool & do the right thing, then his aggression will make him do it. His ratings for strength & tackling will determine if the tackle is successful while his ratings for dirtiness & sportsmanship will have an effect on it being a bad tackle.

I imagine there's a bit more going on than that, but that's the basics of it.

As far as best tactic goes, the best tactic is the one that works for your group of players against the opposition. The main question about aggression would be; do you want a team that tries to win the ball & put it in the net or do you want a team with no fight?

 

[Ursulla]

All players need some aggression or they won't do anything, it's like the switch that makes players do what they are thinking of, e.g. A defender looking to tackle someone will be using marking & positioning to be in the right place, anticipation to predict what the attacking player will do, decisions to decide what to do, composure to keep his cool & do the right thing, then his aggression will make him do it. His ratings for strength & tackling will determine if the tackle is successful while his ratings for dirtiness & sportsmanship will have an effect on it being a bad tackle.

I imagine there's a bit more going on than that, but that's the basics of it.

As far as best tactic goes, the best tactic is the one that works for your group of players against the opposition. The main question about aggression would be; do you want a team that tries to win the ball & put it in the net or do you want a team with no fight?

So what you are saying is that players with low aggression would not make an effort to win the ball back?They are too shy away to get the ball back and would drop into their comfort zone?

 

[Crane]

I've seen other people's newgens who've had about 8 aggression but high tackling and decisions and they did fine as a DM. But yeah, what kellergrey has said is the jist of it.

 

[Ursulla]

I've seen other people's newgens who've had about 8 aggression but high tackling and decisions and they did fine as a DM. But yeah, what kellergrey has said is the jist of it.

So if my team is loosing the game I should replace this guy with 8 aggression with one that would want to get involved more...one that assert himself on the game...?

 

[kellergrey]

Well, determination plays a part too as that makes the player want to do something, agression is what makes him actually do it. A player with high aggression & good determination could be a good impact sub. In theory, anyway & also depending on how good he is

 

[Ursulla]

Well, determination plays a part too as that makes the player want to do something, agression is what makes him actually do it. A player with high aggression & good determination could be a good impact sub. In theory, anyway & also depending on how good he is

So determination would be how comitted a player to win or in more simple words how a winner he is as opposed to being a looser...His spirit doesn't drop when my team is conceding a goal..While aggression would be the mental attitude to get involved...not to be scared...To be BRAVE...but we also have suddenly bravery here?Do we need a superman here or what?

 

[AayushCFC]

I usually prefer players with ~15-16 aggression, 20 seems over the top. John Terry's regularly picking up booking for me, 20 Aggression and bravery. He had "dives into tackles" PPM last year, glad he doesn't have it this year or he'd be always suspended. He picks up a lot of yellows but never picks up second in the same game.

 

[kellergrey]

Superman tends to be in goal for the other team!
You pretty much summed it up there, determination is the will to win & aggression is what makes him get involved. Bravery is how far he's prepared to go to win the ball & risk injury, e.g. The player see's a tackle opportunity; I want to win the ball (determination), it's a bit of a stretch I may get hurt (bravery), stuff it I'm going for the ball (aggression).

 

[Ursulla]

Superman tends to be in goal for the other team!
You pretty much summed it up there, determination is the will to win & aggression is what makes him get involved. Bravery is how far he's prepared to go to win the ball & risk injury, e.g. The player see's a tackle opportunity; I want to win the ball (determination), it's a bit of a stretch I may get hurt (bravery), stuff it I'm going for the ball (aggression).

So this guy needs three high mental attributes to be the one who turn events in favor of my team...but what if he has Work Rate 1?I think we have a problem...

 

[Ursulla]

I usually prefer players with ~15-16 aggression, 20 seems over the top. John Terry's regularly picking up booking for me, 20 Aggression and bravery. He had "dives into tackles" PPM last year, glad he doesn't have it this year or he'd be always suspended. He picks up a lot of yellows but never picks up second in the same game.

Yea a prefered move like that inside the penalty area....So what are your specific instructions for him not to commit his crimes?Do you change his instructions after the yellow card?