4-2-2-2 "Il Devasto"

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which patch is this tactic actually for? 11.0, 11.1, 11.2 or 11.3?
 
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Tried Zizou's version on 11.3 with a good man united side. It worked really well, i scored about 120 goals in the league and my strikers got about 50/60 goals each. Won the treble, bagging the premiership by about 10/12 points, the champions league and the fa cup!

It is a great tactic and quite consistent i think i lost about 2 games and drew 2 with it throughout the whole season.

I always felt like it was just lacking something though, so im gonna to do a season with devasto 2 and see if its any better :)
 
Does anyone use a few of these tactics in a sort of combination, some seem to say Zizou's is the best version and others say the original (unticking target man) for patch 11.3. Is there a tactic which is better suited to playing stronger sides than you, weaker sides than you? Or a better tactic for playing away games etc? Seems like these tactics have the potential to completely dominate with rotation of tactics.
 
The satorox version where both strikers are set to the same instructions is nowhere near as good as the original IlDevasto.
 
where are the other versions? i can't find it! could anyone post it here? the zizous and the both strikers in same instructions .....
 
Just beat fulham with Norwich 7-0 first game using it i'll let you know how i get on.
 
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I'm gonna try Zizou tactic in a new save with A.C Milan.I'll post some results tonight.
 
This tactic kicks ***

Tactic: 11.3 test
Patch: 11.3

This formation really is absurd. I wanted to start a journeyman type game and had played for six (SIX!!!) seasons with Northwich Victoria in the BSN tweaking various default 4-4-2's with no success. I'd made it to the playoff's once and lost in the first round. That's it. This was with a team full of players that my scouts/*** man reckoned were League 1 standard and were actually playing pretty well stat-wise. I just was not winning consistantly.

In my seventh season I was in 12th in November and getting so frustrated I was on the point of quitting. So I looked on line for a killer tactic and started using the above. it worked immediately. I then won the BSN with a record points (90) and goals scored total (105). Remember I was 12th in November...

Then I won the BSP with another record points total (95) and record goals total (125) though I did conceed 71 goals. I also won the FA Trophy. Now I am in League 2 and I'm 4th after 18 games.

Because I'd spent so long in the BSN trying to improve my team (thinking that was the problem) I'd conned my board into giving me double my wage budget. With promotion wage increases I haven't been to buy any new players at all since the start of my promotion season in the BSN.

So, with this new tactic, I've secured back to back promotions and am on target for a third with exactly the same team that couldn't even get close to getting out of the BSN with the default formations. So, if you want easy success on the 11.3 patch, use this formation exactly as described and success will come. Even with cheap players in lower leagues. Just make sure you follow the instructions precisely.

Off-topic slightly but, on many levels, this angers me. If my players are good enough to get this kind of success with this formation, then they should have been good enough to be at least challenging with the basic formation.

Alternatively if they weren't good enough to challege then it is ridiculous then I can simply choose a super formation and become the lower league Barcelona.

It has taken a huge amount of the fun and sense of personal success out of the game for me. But I'm left with no choice but to use it, because otherwise I'll be spending the rest of my career stuck in the lower leagues.

I can understand that being a tactical magician can make a good team into a great one or a bad team into a mediocre one. But if you put Mourinho in charge of Blackpool they wouldn't be title contenders. On FM 2011 they would be.

If there is one thing I wish that they would change for FM 2012, make it mostly about the quality of players and less about having to have a killer tactic for any kind of success. Say, players 90% tactics 10%.

It's how it is in real-life and it's just more fun, for me at least anyway.
 
robinr22 said:
Tactic: 11.3 test
Patch: 11.3

This formation really is absurd. I wanted to start a journeyman type game and had played for six (SIX!!!) seasons with Northwich Victoria in the BSN tweaking various default 4-4-2's with no success. I'd made it to the playoff's once and lost in the first round. That's it. This was with a team full of players that my scouts/*** man reckoned were League 1 standard and were actually playing pretty well stat-wise. I just was not winning consistantly.

In my seventh season I was in 12th in November and getting so frustrated I was on the point of quitting. So I looked on line for a killer tactic and started using the above. it worked immediately. I then won the BSN with a record points (90) and goals scored total (105). Remember I was 12th in November...

Then I won the BSP with another record points total (95) and record goals total (125) though I did conceed 71 goals. I also won the FA Trophy. Now I am in League 2 and I'm 4th after 18 games.

Because I'd spent so long in the BSN trying to improve my team (thinking that was the problem) I'd conned my board into giving me double my wage budget. With promotion wage increases I haven't been to buy any new players at all since the start of my promotion season in the BSN.

So, with this new tactic, I've secured back to back promotions and am on target for a third with exactly the same team that couldn't even get close to getting out of the BSN with the default formations. So, if you want easy success on the 11.3 patch, use this formation exactly as described and success will come. Even with cheap players in lower leagues. Just make sure you follow the instructions precisely.

Off-topic slightly but, on many levels, this angers me. If my players are good enough to get this kind of success with this formation, then they should have been good enough to be at least challenging with the basic formation.

Alternatively if they weren't good enough to challege then it is ridiculous then I can simply choose a super formation and become the lower league Barcelona.

It has taken a huge amount of the fun and sense of personal success out of the game for me. But I'm left with no choice but to use it, because otherwise I'll be spending the rest of my career stuck in the lower leagues.

I can understand that being a tactical magician can make a good team into a great one or a bad team into a mediocre one. But if you put Mourinho in charge of Blackpool they wouldn't be title contenders. On FM 2011 they would be.

If there is one thing I wish that they would change for FM 2012, make it mostly about the quality of players and less about having to have a killer tactic for any kind of success. Say, players 90% tactics 10%.

It's how it is in real-life and it's just more fun, for me at least anyway.
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Yeah it's weird. It's the first time I'm so frustrated with FM.

Which tactic did you use, could you provide the link please ? This thread is such a mess, pretty hard to find anything in there ^_^.
 
It's a nightmare isn't it... I am sure that I remember a post that set everything out but I'm dammned if I can find it.

It's this tactic:

4-2-4 devasto 11.3 test(Palermo, Gen 2013).tac

If you are on the 11.3 patch anyway. I think it is the same instructions as for the previous versions but essentially:

No OI (turn off your *** man if he's doing them)
Team talk is always no pressure.
You need to have the best possible wingers you can get.
Don't make any of the changes that are suggested by others - just stick with the original.

Other than that, sit back and watch endless unsatisfying thrashings while weeping into your keyboard.
 
I have to agree and not agree with robin. Yes, fm11 kinda weird because even i played with top team, it still demand a good tac even i have top player (Real Madrid for example). But also with tactic, can change low team become top team or else there is no hope for lower league team. So it is logic the tac become important factor of success. I think fm need to balancing about player and tac like top player can play varieties of role and formation and for low leageu team may play the same tac but really strong and solid. And I think putting Jose in blackpool may not make blackpool win EPL but at least can give challenge in epl rather than fight in relegation. Beside putting 3 tac in match prep is pretty ridiculous, because even we change bit on the slider will make player uncomfortable. My suggestion is FM should make a feature like cm10 which i think interesting. It is warm up match rather than odd looking match prep.. FM should take look at this for the next version of fm.. Cheers..
 
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satorox says:
So guys, if you have any defensive problems (especially coaching small to medium club), and defensive problems do not intend to be second goal scored 4 or 5 you do these steps:
Brought on-line wings of midfield and set them up with arrows
Two notches down-pressing of the two central defenders (this is dedicated to ray: asd:: asd:: asd
-Tick the option: counterattack

I got the impression that outsiders make better and above all that the defense is exposed to less-go.

sam3180 says:
The aggressive tactic is great: thumbsup:, in whole defense just see a few games to figure out where the problems are. I personally have adopted these changes, small but important in the economy of the game (best defense):

PORTER:
- "Opens up ..." The more technical you back (with the classic reference in midfield if the head was always taking them to counterattack BangHead

Street Bet:
- Less than 2 in mind (you were always mocked up lob long, even on set-pieces)
- 2 to less pressing (going back to press the opponent leaving only the side midfielder)
- Through ball "rare" (I always lost the ball on their vertical solutions, counter-attack goals and systematic)
- Zone instead of man made

DC:
- 1 less-minded
- Pressing on the last of the "middle field" (went to DC to press the opponent leaving the other DC 1vs1 with striker)

CC (only one, the more defensive):
- Lowered mentality of 2-3 notches
- Lowered to half-pressing
- Down to "sometimes" i "through ball"

This allows me the defense has held up very well, sometimes it can happen to be in trouble (especially against me has happened to the 4-5-1 with high wings), but the defense always recover well enough.
Most of the goals I have suffered with long-bearers at the far post, the last defender is behind the diagonal and if there is another opponent, is systematically free ... but deep down in a 4-2-4 as offensive can not be expected that the wings will do 60 meters of the field in defensive withdrawal: asd:

Oh one last thing, as someone wrote a tactic very expensive (especially for DC). If you have games within a week no problem, but with a game every three days I always rest one day (both on Monday that the Thursday), all players below the 90%
 
11.3 Tactic

I´m using the 11.3 beta tactic with my 11.3 patch,I´m managing QPR in 2010/2011
All people say that with this tactic you score many goals but my victories are 2-0,2-1 or 1-1
Who can I fix this?
Sorry for my bad english :$
 
Guys, i didn't understand a point.

------ST-----ST------ <==== This is the forward part of the line-up. This tactis uses 2 strikers. What should be strikers' skills? I mean are
AML--------------AMR there any differences between strikers? (For example; Left striker is tall,good phsiycal and the right striker
is short,pacey and agile) So is this okay -------Adebayor----Aguero-----
or this one? --------Aguero------Adebayor---
 
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