4-5-1 Game Domination

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Thanks a lot, but i think this is the original version, not the reverse :)

I would like the one with the inside forward on the left and the winger on the right :))))))
 
Can u put your training?
How much u pay for Fabregas?

He's actually a luxury item for me 'coz I didn't really need him in my team. I used to play Busquets (Keita as sub) in that position.
But when he became available via free transfer, why not? He has a clash with his manager. He was angry at being fined then requested transfer-listing. When not allowed to hold talks with other clubs, he left on a free transfer.

There are so many variables that could happen in a game and I just got lucky there.

By the way, I think you needed at least 120 M euros on a normal day to poach him out of Arsenal.

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great tactic mj presto. Could you recommend a good keeper that can play the sweeper role. I am playing as Arsenal and at the start of the game my assistant manager recommends that i buy a new goal keeper.

Valdes but you won't be able to poach him out of Barca though.
I have Diego Barreto (Paraguay)as a sub keeper for three years now because he seems to be poor man's Valdes. I'l try to look for another though.

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This is my results.I did everything in the post but the tactic awful and bullshit...

You've only played a few games with this tactic so I don't think its already fluid in match preparation right now. It's actually important. But I'll try to look at your save game too.
 
May set it up on my Match prep on my Wigan save just to see how it works for small teams. Looks pretty **** good though.
 
I'd say the name of this tactic is wrong since this aint game domination, what Ive seen from the screenshots the Poss aint often higher than 60%, sometimes its even less than 50 so it aint game domination, U just get the score. :) No offense or anything negative, but just wanted to point this out.

Domination in football doesn't only means possession domination. Arsenal plays very good possession football and dominates possession but can you say that they dominate EPL and Champions league? It doesn't matter if he dominate possession as long as he can't do anything with the ball.

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This is my results.I did everything in the post but the tactic awful and bullshit...

This is my initial feedback on your team and how you use my tactic.



For this, I set 14 as the standard for a good attribute rating.

GK
I think Manuel Almunia is the best GK in your squad but he’s not good enough to play sweeper keeper. For now, set him as Goalkeeper Defend and play with a deeper defensive line. Focus training: composure, command of area, decisions, positioning

WBR
Bakary Sagna - Focus training: crossing, dribbling, off the ball, positioning

DCR
Sebastien Squillaci – play him as Central defender; Focus training: train him on jumping

DCL
Johan Djourou – play him as Central defender too; Focus training: composure, concentration, pace, decisions

DL
Gael Clichy – Focus training: crossing, marking, concentration, positioning

DMC
Alex Song is better suited as defensive midfielder. Focus training: acceleration

MCR
Next to GK and AML (later about this), this is the third weakest position in your team. I recommend buying somebody for this or moving Cesc to MCR and buying a creative midfielder. For the mean time, Fellaini would fit here. Focus training: long shots, marking, decisions, tackling

MCL
Cesc is excellent in this position

AMR
This is the deepest position in your team. Andrey Arshavin, van Persie, Nasri, Rosicky and even Wilshere can play. Van Persie will be my first choice though. Focus training: teamwork and acceleration

AML
Jack WIlshere - Focus training: crossing and pace; unlearn cutting inside. I tried asking him to stop from cutting inside but he didn’t want to so unless he changes his mind the other time around, set him as Inside Forward support or buy a real left winger. Neymar would be a nice signing ‘coz he’s a good building block for the future but he needs time to develop to become a quality starter. I signed him on my second season for 24.5 M euros. You could sign him for much less now (first season).

ST
Sergio Aguero – heading

You could off-load one or a couple of your AMR's or Reserve team players to gain enough transfer budget to sign those necessary players.

For those players that change player roles and/or duties, tweak some of the advanced tactics to suit their new role/duty.

Furthermore, you didn't even took time to set-up set piece instructions. This is important as taking advantage in this situations is usually the difference between a lost and a draw, and a draw and a win.
 
I would also like a "mirror" version. My best attacking FB/WB is on the left.

I tried to mirror it myself by changing the roles and sliders of the AMR/AML and FBR/FBL but I don't know if I could be missing something.

While I've had some success with this tactic, there's a lot of variables that I'm considering before judging. I am in the 6th year of my climb with Burton and I'm in the Premier. I started off strong and built my team around ZeroSea's tactics, mainly the 424 and 451 ones. I have very young players who have high potential. I'm mostly physically out matched in the Prem league but I've been in the upper half all year. Then my team started slumping around February. Half my strikers are on goalless slumps and one of my defenders has a bad game every game. I have used 3 different tactics all year and none of them were giving the performance I expected and knew could come out of it. So I tried yours and have gotten some good games out of it but against teams like Arsenal or Liverpool, I get smoked no matter what tactic I use. So I blame my team rather than your tactic. I'll give it a full season before I pass full judgement.
 
Domination in football doesn't only means possession domination. Arsenal plays very good possession football and dominates possession but can you say that they dominate EPL and Champions league? It doesn't matter if he dominate possession as long as he can't do anything with the ball.[COLOR=#00e0]

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This is my initial feedback on your team and how you use my tactic.



For this, I set 14 as the standard for a good attribute rating.

GK
I think Manuel Almunia is the best GK in your squad but he’s not good enough to play sweeper keeper. For now, set him as Goalkeeper Defend and play with a deeper defensive line. Focus training: composure, command of area, decisions, positioning

WBR
Bakary Sagna - Focus training: crossing, dribbling, off the ball, positioning

DCR
Sebastien Squillaci – play him as Central defender; Focus training: train him on jumping

DCL
Johan Djourou – play him as Central defender too; Focus training: composure, concentration, pace, decisions

DL
Gael Clichy – Focus training: crossing, marking, concentration, positioning

DMC
Alex Song is better suited as defensive midfielder. Focus training: acceleration

MCR
Next to GK and AML (later about this), this is the third weakest position in your team. I recommend buying somebody for this or moving Cesc to MCR and buying a creative midfielder. For the mean time, Fellaini would fit here. Focus training: long shots, marking, decisions, tackling

MCL
Cesc is excellent in this position

AMR
This is the deepest position in your team. Andrey Arshavin, van Persie, Nasri, Rosicky and even Wilshere can play. Van Persie will be my first choice though. Focus training: teamwork and acceleration

AML
Jack WIlshere - Focus training: crossing and pace; unlearn cutting inside. I tried asking him to stop from cutting inside but he didn’t want to so unless he changes his mind the other time around, set him as Inside Forward support or buy a real left winger. Neymar would be a nice signing ‘coz he’s a good building block for the future but he needs time to develop to become a quality starter. I signed him on my second season for 24.5 M euros. You could sign him for much less now (first season).

ST
Sergio Aguero – heading

You could off-load one or a couple of your AMR's or Reserve team players to gain enough transfer budget to sign those necessary players.

For those players that change player roles and/or duties, tweak some of the advanced tactics to suit their new role/duty.

Furthermore, you didn't even took time to set-up set piece instructions. This is important as taking advantage in this situations is usually the difference between a lost and a draw, and a draw and a win.

MJPresto

I am also playing as Arsenal and wanted to ask you a few questions regarding this tactic. I have Vermalean and Koscielney as my centre backs at the moment but I am thinking of bringing a big physical Centre Back like Phil Jones or Chris Samba. What do you think will be the best defensive set up for both defenders in terms of role and duty. You mentioned in your post that the MCR positions is the weakest in the Arsenal team. I was thinking of playing Jack Wilshere in that role but since reading your post it made me think that maybe I should get a more physical player in Midfield. Who would you recommend out of Yan M'Villa, Arturo Vidal and Fellani. Could you also let me know what role and duty would suit them best. I was thinking of either ball winning midfielders or box to box midfieders. If you could give me some advice that would be great. Now if I changed the midfield then that leaves me the problem of what to do with Wilshere because if I play as a AML with winger support then I have to move Nasri to the AMR and change is role and duty to inside forward - attack. The problem with that is Nasri's is strong on his right foot and if he cuts in from the left wing then he would be on is left foot which is not strong enough.

Van Persie has the striker position locked down with Walcott and Chamakh backing him up at the moment might have a look at the big belgium beast that is the new Drogba to add some power and brute force to my attack.

I cant find a good sweeper keeper like valdes in the game so I am going to have play a deeper defensive line like you recommended. At the moment my defensive line is at 15 notces on the slider (pushed up), could you recommend what would be a good defensive line setting.

If you could offer me some help with midfield and what to do with Wilshere and Nasri that would be great

Thanks in Advance
 
The tactic is flawless against lesser sides !!!

However, in derbies, things tend to get harder...


I'm using Sporting and i just cant get a single win against Porto and Benfica :(

Any ideas ????
 
I wonder if mjpresto's discovery of how to dominate FM itself (!) will cause the designers to re-visit their software.
Whilst I admire what mjp has done (and will try it out myself), it might be a little disappointing to some when they realise there's a perfect system available, so their own efforts with a different system are doomed to 2nd place at best .... ?
 
MJPresto

I am also playing as Arsenal and wanted to ask you a few questions regarding this tactic. I have Vermalean and Koscielney as my centre backs at the moment but I am thinking of bringing a big physical Centre Back like Phil Jones or Chris Samba. What do you think will be the best defensive set up for both defenders in terms of role and duty. You mentioned in your post that the MCR positions is the weakest in the Arsenal team. I was thinking of playing Jack Wilshere in that role but since reading your post it made me think that maybe I should get a more physical player in Midfield. Who would you recommend out of Yan M'Villa, Arturo Vidal and Fellani. Could you also let me know what role and duty would suit them best. I was thinking of either ball winning midfielders or box to box midfieders. If you could give me some advice that would be great. Now if I changed the midfield then that leaves me the problem of what to do with Wilshere because if I play as a AML with winger support then I have to move Nasri to the AMR and change is role and duty to inside forward - attack. The problem with that is Nasri's is strong on his right foot and if he cuts in from the left wing then he would be on is left foot which is not strong enough.

Van Persie has the striker position locked down with Walcott and Chamakh backing him up at the moment might have a look at the big belgium beast that is the new Drogba to add some power and brute force to my attack.

I cant find a good sweeper keeper like valdes in the game so I am going to have play a deeper defensive line like you recommended. At the moment my defensive line is at 15 notces on the slider (pushed up), could you recommend what would be a good defensive line setting.

If you could offer me some help with midfield and what to do with Wilshere and Nasri that would be great

Thanks in Advance

I'l end you feedbacks soon. I will look at the Arsenal side of June 2010 in FM, which means you haven't done any transfers yet.

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Mjpresto, can't you upload filters for every position?

Even if I want to, that won't help you either. The best thing you could do is to develop your players (either those players originally on your team or players that you've signed) to suit the roles and duties in the tactic. You could find if their attributes are suited to the roles and duties by putting them on the designated position and clicking them on the formation screen on tactics page. You would see there the highlighted attributes that are necessary for their position. Then build a training schedule that focuses on improving the attributes that are on the low side.

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FOR THOSE WHO ARE LOOKING FOR A GOOD SWEEPER KEEPER, I RECOMMEND SERGIO ROMERO. He's very close to Valdes although his eccentricity rating is quite high, which is not good at time. With some training, you could develop him to a good sweeper keeper. Furthermore, he's young and cheap.

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The tactic is flawless against lesser sides !!!

However, in derbies, things tend to get harder...


I'm using Sporting and i just cant get a single win against Porto and Benfica :(

Any ideas ????

Okay, I'll try to look at it. I'l use Sporting of June 2010 as basis.
 
looks really good but would like to know what the player roles are. ie what do u play your striker as, complete forward, advanced 4ward, etc
 
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