First time uploading/presenting a tactic so please bare with me - I'll try my best!
Last FM I saw a tactic posted on the forums that had 4 wing backs in the same system, so I thought I'd try and re-create something similar just for the fun of it during the beta. The tactic I've ended up with has won me back-to-back promotions with Blackpool on a shoestring budget. I came 6th in my first season in the Premier League and have reached 2 CL finals in a row since that. Still yet to win the league title, but that's part of why I'm uploading this tactic here to see if anyone can do better/tweak it to be more viable at the top level.
I think that this tactic is most likely going to be an underdog tactic or a tactic best suited for lower leagues. I'm not amazing at creating tactics though and I heavily encourage people to tweak and find their own ways to make it better. The double wing backs are a bit of a novelty but I've found they get very good ratings alongside making squad rotation VERY easy without having to fork out millions on top class wide players/attacking midfielders.
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TRAINING:
- I left this completely to my assistant manager. I've not dived too in-depth with training whatsoever this year so create your own schedule for this or leave it to your assistant.
OIs:
- Haven't touched them at all. Assistant does not select them either, but you can do this on your own.
RESULTS:
- Season 1:
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During the first season I only signed 3 backup players on loan. Gedion Zelalem, Beni Baningime and Jake Vokins. I somehow managed to win the Carabao Cup during this season (through absolute luck).
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I can't show match stats from the actual matches themselves now - but just know that I haven't won a single cup competition since so do not expect the same level of success!
- Season 2:
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No cup success to speak of however our Europa League run had some pretty amazing results for a Championship side despite it being a complete pain in the *** for fixtures. This tactic has proven to be VERY good in European matches for me.
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- Season 3:
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No cup success to speak of but a very solid first season back in the Premier League.
- Season 4:
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This season is where I started to significantly increase the overall ability of my squad. Another successful European run.
- Season 5:
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Again, no league title. But an amazing run in European competition once again.
- Season 6:
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This is the season I spent really big to make my squad a proper title winning/CL challenging team, but alas I won neither of those titles. Some of the results as you can see in Europe though are nothing short of amazing.
This match for example vs Juventus shows what this tactic is about:
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Very low amounts of possession but a tonne of opportunities. You can see that Juventus fielded an incredibly strong team also. I am still yet to win a title or a European cup, so this makes me question whether this is just a fantastic lower league/underdog tactic or something that can be tweaked to get more consistent success over the course of a top tier season.
THINGS TO NOTE ABOUT THE TACTIC:
- You will get very low amounts of possession. I tend to average anywhere from 41-44% of the ball over a given season.
- At DR/DL, play your less creative/attack minded full backs. At WBR/WBL play your more creative, better finishing full backs. For example I have Alex Grimaldo at WBL, but Kolasanic at DL as he is not as good creatively as Grimaldo.
- The strikers will score a TONNE of goals. More or less every season one of my 2 strikers, or both of my strikers have scored 25-30+ league goals at every single level of the save. The pressing forward seems to get more clear opportunities, whereas the advanced forward creates more opportunities. I would advise using fast strikers as they chase a lot of long balls, but you can play more of a "complete" type of striker as the pressing forward as he gets more headed/clear cut opportunities.
- I am not sure what are the best PPMs. But "gets further forward" seems to be successful with the wide players.
- I have not added a complete corner setup to the tactic however you do tend to score quite a few goals from corners, due to getting a lot of corners. With a proper corner setup this would probably get very very good results.
- Use a DM that is well rounded in both attack and defence. The MC can be less defensive minded, but I would advise another good well-rounded player with good attacking attributes. The DCs are best when fast, but I have used slower ones to good success still. The goalkeeper can be a standard goalkeeper.
I hope that this opening post has been good enough - if you have any questions then I'll be free to answer them. I think that this style of having lots of players deep but counter attacking at pace can be very successful especially in the lower leagues, but I'd love to see tweaks that make it even better once you are a top side!
Here are some screenshots from my current season to better demonstrate the possession/chances created/crosses completed etc:
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EDIT: I think that using "balanced" instead of "attacking" away from home could be better for this tactic. If you check the posts below you will see that I had good success using this method in a test save with Newcastle United.
I think that this tactic will consistently work with lower predicted/lower league teams however I've definitely noticed struggle myself when playing with a top team. Usually you won't create anywhere near as many chances, meaning you'll struggle to kill games off. I think that tweaks to the tempo/defensive line could help with this. I'd love to see people tweak the tactic to suit a top team, as it's something I've struggled with a lot. Maybe it's not even possible when using 4 wing backs, but we can definitely try!
Last FM I saw a tactic posted on the forums that had 4 wing backs in the same system, so I thought I'd try and re-create something similar just for the fun of it during the beta. The tactic I've ended up with has won me back-to-back promotions with Blackpool on a shoestring budget. I came 6th in my first season in the Premier League and have reached 2 CL finals in a row since that. Still yet to win the league title, but that's part of why I'm uploading this tactic here to see if anyone can do better/tweak it to be more viable at the top level.
I think that this tactic is most likely going to be an underdog tactic or a tactic best suited for lower leagues. I'm not amazing at creating tactics though and I heavily encourage people to tweak and find their own ways to make it better. The double wing backs are a bit of a novelty but I've found they get very good ratings alongside making squad rotation VERY easy without having to fork out millions on top class wide players/attacking midfielders.
View attachment 33343
TRAINING:
- I left this completely to my assistant manager. I've not dived too in-depth with training whatsoever this year so create your own schedule for this or leave it to your assistant.
OIs:
- Haven't touched them at all. Assistant does not select them either, but you can do this on your own.
RESULTS:
- Season 1:
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During the first season I only signed 3 backup players on loan. Gedion Zelalem, Beni Baningime and Jake Vokins. I somehow managed to win the Carabao Cup during this season (through absolute luck).
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I can't show match stats from the actual matches themselves now - but just know that I haven't won a single cup competition since so do not expect the same level of success!
- Season 2:
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No cup success to speak of however our Europa League run had some pretty amazing results for a Championship side despite it being a complete pain in the *** for fixtures. This tactic has proven to be VERY good in European matches for me.
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- Season 3:
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No cup success to speak of but a very solid first season back in the Premier League.
- Season 4:
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This season is where I started to significantly increase the overall ability of my squad. Another successful European run.
- Season 5:
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Again, no league title. But an amazing run in European competition once again.
- Season 6:
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This is the season I spent really big to make my squad a proper title winning/CL challenging team, but alas I won neither of those titles. Some of the results as you can see in Europe though are nothing short of amazing.
This match for example vs Juventus shows what this tactic is about:
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Very low amounts of possession but a tonne of opportunities. You can see that Juventus fielded an incredibly strong team also. I am still yet to win a title or a European cup, so this makes me question whether this is just a fantastic lower league/underdog tactic or something that can be tweaked to get more consistent success over the course of a top tier season.
THINGS TO NOTE ABOUT THE TACTIC:
- You will get very low amounts of possession. I tend to average anywhere from 41-44% of the ball over a given season.
- At DR/DL, play your less creative/attack minded full backs. At WBR/WBL play your more creative, better finishing full backs. For example I have Alex Grimaldo at WBL, but Kolasanic at DL as he is not as good creatively as Grimaldo.
- The strikers will score a TONNE of goals. More or less every season one of my 2 strikers, or both of my strikers have scored 25-30+ league goals at every single level of the save. The pressing forward seems to get more clear opportunities, whereas the advanced forward creates more opportunities. I would advise using fast strikers as they chase a lot of long balls, but you can play more of a "complete" type of striker as the pressing forward as he gets more headed/clear cut opportunities.
- I am not sure what are the best PPMs. But "gets further forward" seems to be successful with the wide players.
- I have not added a complete corner setup to the tactic however you do tend to score quite a few goals from corners, due to getting a lot of corners. With a proper corner setup this would probably get very very good results.
- Use a DM that is well rounded in both attack and defence. The MC can be less defensive minded, but I would advise another good well-rounded player with good attacking attributes. The DCs are best when fast, but I have used slower ones to good success still. The goalkeeper can be a standard goalkeeper.
I hope that this opening post has been good enough - if you have any questions then I'll be free to answer them. I think that this style of having lots of players deep but counter attacking at pace can be very successful especially in the lower leagues, but I'd love to see tweaks that make it even better once you are a top side!
Here are some screenshots from my current season to better demonstrate the possession/chances created/crosses completed etc:
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EDIT: I think that using "balanced" instead of "attacking" away from home could be better for this tactic. If you check the posts below you will see that I had good success using this method in a test save with Newcastle United.
I think that this tactic will consistently work with lower predicted/lower league teams however I've definitely noticed struggle myself when playing with a top team. Usually you won't create anywhere near as many chances, meaning you'll struggle to kill games off. I think that tweaks to the tempo/defensive line could help with this. I'd love to see people tweak the tactic to suit a top team, as it's something I've struggled with a lot. Maybe it's not even possible when using 4 wing backs, but we can definitely try!
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