The Prodigal Son returns – Zvunka to take charge of ‘Les Bleus’
The FFF have managed to appease the nation, furious at France’s poor World Cup performance, by announcing the man to succeed departing national head coach Paul Le Guen: former under 21 gaffer Thierry Zvunka, who lead the current generation of players to the European Championship as talented youngsters, will take the step up to manage the senior side. With Zvunka having faced a choice between the country of his birth and the country of his background, there is no doubt that fans of ‘Les Bleus’ will be delighted with his decision to turn down World Cup winners Scotland.
Thierry Zvunka enjoys a growing reputation in world football, having begun his managerial career just 5 years ago with the under 21 side. Since then, he has managed in Scotland, Holland and now Germany, developing his skills and knowledge with every successful season. It is only now, since taking the Werder Bremen job, that some pundits have dubbed him as a truly “world class” football manager – quite an achievement for someone coming out of an average semi-professional playing career relatively recently. The FFF saw two clear advantages in Zvunka over any other candidate for the top job: firstly, through his experience with the younger squad, he already knows the emerging generation of talent that he will be reliant on going forward towards the Euros; secondly, his record since departing the role has been superb, achieving success in every job he has held, as well as leading Belgium to an incredible 3rd place on the biggest stage where France failed to deliver.
In an exclusive interview with L’Équipe, the new man at the helm speaks of being torn between two nations dear to him, about his ambitions for ‘Les Bleus’, Werder Bremen and life in general going forward.
Q: Thierry, you’ve made your decision, and made the French nation very happy! How tough was it to eventually choose France, and what persuaded you to do so?
A: Well, it was without doubt the most difficult decision of my life, and quite possibly the hardest choice I’ll ever have to make. I care deeply about both nations, and feel equally a part of both – I’m not referred to as a Scots-Frenchman by accident, you know! In the end, I had to try and take emotion out of the process. Looking at both openings objectively, I elected for the France job after several hours of mulling over every little difference between the two: Scotland are now officially the best in the world, and would have presented a great challenge, while France should have been right up there and also offer a great challenge to return the side to the top; both have talented national pools, with different strengths and weaknesses; both have loyal, enthusiastic and passionate fans. There was one thing that swung it, and that was my past experience with the FFF – they were brilliant with me throughout my tenure with the under 21’s, and given that those boys have now matured and progressed to the senior side I couldn’t resist linking up with everyone again.
Q: You will once again be balancing club and country jobs. How do you find the time to do both, and what is the secret to being successful with two roles?
A: I’m a workaholic, basically, so spend every waking minute and hour devoted to football. The most important consideration when balancing two jobs is the backroom teams you rely on – a good assistant is invaluable for both, helping to fill in the gaps and updating you on any developments. Naturally, I have to rely on scouting reports when it comes to picking national squads, but I surround myself with scouts that I both know and trust. If there’s any debate, I simply watch the tapes until I make a final decision. Now that I’m spending my time in Germany, however, it shouldn’t be too hard to keep tabs on what’s going on here. As Belgium head coach, managing in neighbouring Holland was a great help, and it turns out that I’ll be in much the same boat this time around.
Q: You’ve enjoyed quite a rise in such a short time. This has meant spending relatively short times in your jobs – should we as Frenchmen, or Werder fans, be worried about you leaving after a short time?
A: I don’t think so, no. It’s a tough one – with Kilmarnock, who gave me my break, I spent two full seasons in charge, after signing an initial two year deal, so I think that’s normal. Feyenoord is slightly more complicated to explain: basically, I never ruled out departing if a really good offer came in; by that, I meant an offer which offered stability at the top table of European football, and Werder Bremen duly came in with such an offer. I have no foreseeable reason to leave Weserstadion in the near future, given that I truly believe Werder are capable of challenging for every title possible, both domestic and continental. With Feyenoord, as much as I’d grown to love the club the budgets dictated that we couldn’t properly give continental competitions a tilt. Starting in the Europa League this campaign will be a good indicator, as it’s a competition that we will be among the favourites for. As for France, the same applies – while most people were shocked when Belgium went to the last 4 of the World Cup, it’s what France should be capable of doing. Besides, I love the country and the fans, so I’m more than comfortable where I am now.
Q: You seem to be indicating that you are content with where you have arrived this summer. Does that mean that your ambitions have been restrained slightly?
A: In a selfish sense, yes. From a broader perspective, no – I’m not looking for the next step up anymore, as I was at times with Killie and latterly Belgium, but I’ve got the same hunger to win as much as I can with both club and country. Once you lose that, you may as well retire…and I don’t plan to do that for a long time! It’s all about priorities: as a young man making his way in the sport, it’s only natural to look upwards and dream of where you could end up; now, as a maturing manager with 5 years of tough graft behind me, I’m more than happy with my circumstances as they are. Also, I need to improve my work/life balance, and with the two positions I now hold it should be much easier to handle. I’ve been guilty of neglecting my social life at the expense of work, but can now redress the balance a little.
Q: You mention your personal life – firstly, I believe that congratulations are in order, with a little one on the way! Has that been a factor in changing your mindset?
A: Most definitely, yeah. Thanks! Of course, the thought of becoming a father makes you re-assess your priorities in life. I’ve been largely self-centred over the past few years, given that I’ve dragged my partner all over Europe with my jobs, but now we are able to settle down and plant roots as they say. Family has always been important to us, and given that our relations are all based in France it made sense for me to take on the two new jobs this summer. Of course, I can’t rule out moving again at some point in the future, but by the same token growing up in another country for a spell did me the power of good. As with work, it’s all a balancing act.
Q: What do you hope to achieve in the next few years?
A: Well, on the club front I’m looking to establish Werder Bremen as the top side in Germany. With Bayern Munich in the superb financial position they are, and the likes of Stuttgart becoming resurgent it won’t be an easy task. That’s why I’m in the hotseat though – I love a challenge, and touch wood I tend to rise well to them. It would be nice to establish the club as a force in continental football as well, given that we’ve never really been considered as an elite force in Europe. Everything is in place to change that, with a little luck and hark work. In terms of France, the Euros have to be our target. In two years time, we’ll have a squad in their prime, and ready to have a real good go at winning the tournament. Qualification shouldn’t be taken lightly of course, but we’ve got higher aims than turning up to make up the numbers. Following that, we’ll need to refresh and prepare to make up for Brazil in 4 years time. We’ll cross that bridge when we come to it!
Q: Thanks for your time Thierry, and good luck for the future.
A: Cheers, I may well need it! (laughs)
Thierry Zvunka was talking to L’Équipe football correspondent Luc Batignole.