A thread going totally off topic! Brainstorming and some "real" tactic testing!

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silenceborn said:
Banda, could u make filters or just write the key qualities needed for the every position?
I do like to play in the lower leagues
so need some pieces of advice)
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Well...i don't have filters so i am going to try to explain.
ME in FM24 works like this - crossing-goal. Every time i see them score after a cross , my full back/wing back is jumping for the ball(even if i have 3 cb's) witch is stupid but yet again...its SI and its FM :)

So:
FB/WB - pace , acceleration , tackling , heading and jumping reach( strength , agility etc. are bonus if they have some)
CB/s - marking , tackling , positioning , decisions , heading , jumping reach (acceleration and pace at least 13+)
Midfield - if you using mezzalas they have to be good dribblers and crossers of the ball, because they are running wide with it by default . DMs is not so hard - rackling , marking , strength. If they are tall is a + for you , but is not a "must".
Strikers - Pio Esposito , Emegha , Sesko ...."cow" type of a strikers. Go for finishing , heading , jumping reach and pace and acceleration over 13 and train them only quickness. After they get pace and acc 15+ train them whatever you like. Dribbling , ball control , passing...NOT IMPORTANT for strikers ! In most of the tactics they are with AF role so you need them to score , not to run like idiots or pass left-right wherever ....just put them to score. If they are fast , train them finishing and areal . If they are good at finishing and heading , train them to be quicker.
GKs - ....i don't know. Never had that amazing "save everything" goalkeeper , so i can't help you with that position.
 
vitoco said:
Ok thanks for your guilding. I have used my youth wingbacks as they can jump! Their tackling and crossing stats are not as good but at least they can stop the AI scoring against me!

Luckily I have 3 tall strikers and 3 fast strikers, so if the game don't work out, I changed them after 60mins...

I use WTS setpieces and 1 game my defender scored 4 goals....


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is this GYR's Joker ?
Can you share your first 11 and competition standings ?
 
Banda Noantri said:
is this GYR's Joker ?
Can you share your first 11 and competition standings ?
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Yes, i am in year 2035 already so the squad doesn't matter....i kept improving every year. Its already the 3rd team I manage, I started the game with Chelsea, won everything with another tac, but didn't feel good about it. Then went on manage an English lower league team, after 1 year then I got the VFB job ranked at the time 15th I think in year 2030.

It was only last few games I switch to joker and it is much stable than the ones I used, most importantly not only scoring from corners but strikers and Mez also can score a lot also.

I am VFB stuttgart, I live near there in summer
 
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Another corner hat trick.

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Banda Noantri said:
Well...i don't have filters so i am going to try to explain.
ME in FM24 works like this - crossing-goal. Every time i see them score after a cross , my full back/wing back is jumping for the ball(even if i have 3 cb's) witch is stupid but yet again...its SI and its FM :)

So:
FB/WB - pace , acceleration , tackling , heading and jumping reach( strength , agility etc. are bonus if they have some)
CB/s - marking , tackling , positioning , decisions , heading , jumping reach (acceleration and pace at least 13+)
Midfield - if you using mezzalas they have to be good dribblers and crossers of the ball, because they are running wide with it by default . DMs is not so hard - rackling , marking , strength. If they are tall is a + for you , but is not a "must".
Strikers - Pio Esposito , Emegha , Sesko ...."cow" type of a strikers. Go for finishing , heading , jumping reach and pace and acceleration over 13 and train them only quickness. After they get pace and acc 15+ train them whatever you like. Dribbling , ball control , passing...NOT IMPORTANT for strikers ! In most of the tactics they are with AF role so you need them to score , not to run like idiots or pass left-right wherever ....just put them to score. If they are fast , train them finishing and areal . If they are good at finishing and heading , train them to be quicker.
GKs - ....i don't know. Never had that amazing "save everything" goalkeeper , so i can't help you with that position.
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Do you have filters?
 
For Mezzalas you can train re-adapt Wingers Vitoco? Most of them have good pace, good crossing and good dribble.
 
vitoco said:
This tac is so good!

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5 years in a row i won everything with Stuttgart . It fits them so good , because in the start you don't have any wingers and just put it. Joker is stable even with national team , taking Austria to World Cup finals and won it :)

@McFly92 , as i said in the begining of my post i don't have filters and i don't use others too... So implement that what i have written if you want.

@dimartino , i am trying x-532-x with Rayo Vallecano ,but its going slow , don't have the time these days. Is this your tactic or someone else ?
 
Banda Noantri said:
5 years in a row i won everything with Stuttgart . It fits them so good , because in the start you don't have any wingers and just put it. Joker is stable even with national team , taking Austria to World Cup finals and won it :)

@McFly92 , as i said in the begining of my post i don't have filters and i don't use others too... So implement that what i have written if you want.

@dimartino , i am trying x-532-x with Rayo Vallecano ,but its going slow , don't have the time these days. Is this your tactic or someone else ?
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An adaptation of cerebro, but not quite overachieving as much as I wanted, so not using it anymore.
I never paid much attention to Vujevic's tactics, but must say that Joker is very good, but modern target man v2 seems a lot better, really amazing!
 

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dimartino said:
An adaptation of cerebro, but not quite overachieving as much as I wanted, so not using it anymore.
I never paid much attention to Vujevic's tactics, but must say that Joker is very good, but modern target man v2 seems a lot better, really amazing!
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if you are testing Target man , please test it without OI's ....i always do them...want to see if there is any difference if you use the OI's and if you don't :)
 
Banda Noantri said:
if you are testing Target man , please test it without OI's ....i always do them...want to see if there is any difference if you use the OI's and if you don't :)
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i never noticed any improvments using oi's with modern target man tactic, tactic is so good on its own.
 
Bodatatu79 said:
For Mezzalas you can train re-adapt Wingers Vitoco? Most of them have good pace, good crossing and good dribble.
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as he is still playing in the midfield, I would have him at least dribbling, off the ball and passing. Then crossing and finishing would be a bonus
 
dimartino said:
An adaptation of cerebro, but not quite overachieving as much as I wanted, so not using it anymore.
I never paid much attention to Vujevic's tactics, but must say that Joker is very good, but modern target man v2 seems a lot better, really amazing!
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i never had much luck with targetman, i used the one off the OP, is this v2 one different?

Besides, I had issues with targetman AML and AMR. Would it be left foot on left wing so that he can cross more? Or would it be right foot on left wing? I always had bad rating on these 2 positions.
 
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