Awful Defensive Line/Closing Down

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No matter what I do, my players all decide to hold a line almost on the goal line. It happens every game, and is extremely frustrating as it is the exact opposite of what I want my players to be doing.


As you can see on the screenshots below, I have set my defensive line to the highest shout possible, and told them to close down more. I am using a standard mentality on that screenshot, but usually I play with attacking, which should give me an even higher line, but there isn't a difference.

To experiment, I put the instructions to stand off, on Counter and with the deepest line shout, and there was no difference what so ever.


Is there anything I am missing here? Or is this a bug/flaw in the ME?

P.S. it was like this before the latest update

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I know man i have this issue but only now in season two.

Was fine first season but now defense seem to go hug the goal line and stand there watching the clouds go by (H)
But the game is only a BETA so fingers crossed this all be fixed and we will have our team actually defending
 
The defense seems to be a joke in this game. Sometime I wonder should I even play four at the back? Because honestly, they hardly do anything but allow shots on target.
 
Yeah defense seems a bit wonky, but lets wait untill full version to make sure I guess
 
The full version is here and the defense is still awful. We'd honestly be better off fielding four orange cones.
 
Defenders are running past attackers, it looks very shoddy. This wasn't happening before today.
 
Agreed. I am having some teams get 30 or more shots at me and it seems like a constant barrage no matter what I do.
 
Seems very weird, even though i'm not a great tactician, the sheer difference in quality between my defenders and their attackers should be enough that they didn't get that kind of attacking advantage...

Kind of taking away my enjoyment of the game, sucks :(
 
Since the last patch/full game launch my defenders and def-mids have turned into pudding. The opposition just runs past them and they dont even atempt to tackle, they just track back and eventually if a winger crosses into the ?rea you have 6 players in or around the penalty box, they obviously either fail to mark anyone or clear the ball outside the box where two or three opposition players are always alone just waiting to pounce on it. i've tried everything, higher d-line, stronger tackling, more closing down, but nothing seems to work. i havent seen one of my players make a successful tackle in a couple of matches now, although in the stats it shows that they do tackle, and quite successfully, just cant see it happen and get run-over by weaker teams that i was beating before the patch. it has rendered my save unplayable. all i can do is wait for a nother patch, and it is so frustrating. Before this patch i noticed that some players, especial wing-backs were getting too good ratings and too many tackles. SI has obviously tried to tone this down, but i think they've gone too far. Getting positive ratings is a nightmare now and the opposition looks much more dinamic on and off the ball, in a way that apparently i just cant achieve, no matter what formation or style of play i try. Its like diferente rules apply to both teams. I still manage to win a few games, but its an absolute grind. Im not saying the game should be easier, just more coherent. Anyway... needed to vent this... lol i hope they solve this soon, coz im having no fun at all with this game now, when just two days or three ago, before the last patch of the beta, i was having the time of my life. Remember last year we went through exactly the same issues with the match engine and patches, was hoping it would be diferente this year.
 
Sound defending has got even worse :/ Might go back to playing FM13 until it is sorted out.
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they walked casually instead of closing down in the middle of the park

unplayable
 
I can agree.

My liverpool side gets ran over by Dag & Red.. It's fun to watch.
 
My defence is fine, albeit I'm Bayern so my defenders are amazing. 19 conceded in 29 Bundesliga matches, two clean sheets against Real Madrid in the CL. My fullbacks get 9+ ratings without goals or assists when we come up against good wide players.

But there is a huge problem with bad defensive lines when they push the ball to the byline. Causes an unrealistic amount of cutbacks (on the other hand, wingers should be crossing more imho).
 
r1niceboy said:
The full version is here and the defense is still awful. We'd honestly be better off fielding four orange cones.
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I honestly think four sticks in the ground would be able to take the ball away better than Gibbs, Mertescielny, and Montoya can in my Arsenal save. -_-
 
I agree,
The defence on this game is just terrible...

I swear as soon as i score, my team feel bad for scoring so they just let them walk a goal in...
 
I 've been playing FM for years. I'm not the greatest tactitian, but I know how to build a team to suit how i play etc. and I've gotten my palace team creating so many half chances and clear cut chances... I just played Ipswich, Huddersfield and Nottingham Forrest, I easily had about 20-30 shots average, I think Ipswich had one and scored and I keep losing 1-0, 2-1, etc.

Really getting peeeeeed off now... Nothing worng with my tactics just tried what I'm using on FM14 on FM13 and I'm smashing teams everyweek!?
 
Dire Straits

Feel a little better because i'm in the exact same position, just played Arsenal with my Liverpool side, had 28 shots, 68% possession and scored one goal, they had 6 shots, 32% and scored THREE!!!

Man marking may as well not exist, there is next to no defensive control, i usually have an Anchor Man set as my playmaker so he picks up the ball from the defence and plays a simple pass to any of the midfielders...can't do that anymore because of the ridiculous adherence to "player roles"

And i'm not even going to start on the madness that is "Match Preparation"....it's insane, i really hope people at SI read these forums or, you know....play the game and see for themselves!
 
DMTMay said:
Feel a little better because i'm in the exact same position, just played Arsenal with my Liverpool side, had 28 shots, 68% possession and scored one goal, they had 6 shots, 32% and scored THREE!!!

Man marking may as well not exist, there is next to no defensive control, i usually have an Anchor Man set as my playmaker so he picks up the ball from the defence and plays a simple pass to any of the midfielders...can't do that anymore because of the ridiculous adherence to "player roles"

And i'm not even going to start on the madness that is "Match Preparation"....it's insane, i really hope people at SI read these forums or, you know....play the game and see for themselves!
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Yeah the player roles tactics are awful, I can't set my playmakers etc, and can't adjust the sliders for any players so I have no in depth control over my players at all
 
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