I should have been clearer in my initial statement, i was talk about passing when it comes to lending them money to bail them out so they dont have to deal with themselves. Joel made that point much better than i did anyway
I know.
Aye, but they took that risk.
Moody's, S&P and Fitch are all part of the problem though. They have been done in for lying about credit ratings and were intrinsic to the current economic climate. They dictate credit ratings so it benefits them, not what actually is true.
AFAIK, we know they will collapse anyway.
I should have been clearer in my initial statement, i was talk about passing when it comes to lending them money to bail them out so they dont have to deal with themselves. Joel made that point much better than i did anyway
And people are still whinging that we've been more isolated now-even though Cameron still wants to keep trading with Europe. Get a grip peeps. He's looking after the country and would prefer not to cripple the country even further. Least he had the balls to do it. Brown would've quite happily kissed the EU's **** just to appease them.
There's going to be a lot of tension down the line, we're certainly not going to sit back and be marginalised easily. How the ones in this treaty expect to enforce rules on those out of the treaty without their input is beyond me. Let alone the fact that 26 countries have just lost a large part of their sovereignty to France and Germany without their people ever having a say on it.
<3 Milliband saying Cameron mishandled negotiations too. People may think what they like on Cameron, but Milliband is just ridiculous.
How can the opposition not understand that losing fiscal control is bad for the country economically? How is the EU controlling our budgets not be considered true economic isolation? The argument that we 'didn't gain any safeguards' no, we didn't, but we didn't lose anything either. Staying as we are is beneficial relative to the choice of Germany and France having free reign over our financial services.
Just saw some Frog wants to punish Britain for vetoing it. Lawls.
I saw that too. They want to get rid of our £3bn rebate or whatever? Like they're going to provoke one of the only net contributors to the EU. We're essentially being scapegoated here for being right.
France - I hate ze capitalist Britizh and ze arrogant Americanz... Oh, hello Germany! Britain, America; we love you!
Haha. I love the justifications for signing away their sovereignty without even asking their populace. "Yeah, this whole taxing, spending and setting interest rates ourselves thing is so overrated."
And it's one thing what the politicians of Europe and what the people of Europe think of Britain's decision. From what I've heard most respect Camerons newly discovered cahonas.