Becoming a Hometown Hero -Carlisle United

September 2020 Update​
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World Cup Asia Qualifers Final Stage Game 1
Australia vs Japan
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We start this stage off well with 2-0 win, goals from Matthew Leckie and Bailey Wright

World Cup Asia Qualifers Final Stage Game 2
Jordan vs Australia
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Leckie scores again and Robbie Kruse added two to make us 2-0

Loan deal
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Northampton secure a loan deal

Landmark
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I reach my 300th game in manager

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Sky Bet Championship Game 6
Carlisle vs Brighton
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We gain a point in the Brighton game but lose Kevin Hill with a red card
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Sky Bet Championship Game 7
Derby vs Carlisle
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Ryan Freeman and Shane Long get the job done but the late goal give us a scare

Sky Bet Championship Game 8
Carlisle vs Burnley
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A Shane Long double turns the game around to win 3-2

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Capital One Cup 3rd Round
Huddersfield vs Carlisle
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A few youngsters start in this game but it's Samuel and Moussa that put us through. The fourth round sees us play Sheffield Wednesday now a premier league club.
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Sky Bet Championship Game 9
Fulham vs Carlisle
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Goalless draw but at least it's a point

Sky Bet Championship Game 10
Carlisle vs Peterbrough
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Samuel scores the only goal of the game to win the game

Injury
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Matthew Mitchell is out with a facial injury

Loan Extension
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Northampton extends the loan deal

League Table
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10 games in and were on track sitting in the playoff zone
 
October 2020 Update​
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Awards
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Ryan Freeman picks up the September Player of the Month award

Loan Extension
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Northampton extend the Brough loan for another 3 months

Loan deal
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Meppen Walter joins Stevenage on a month loan

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Sky Bet Championship Game 11
Reading vs Carlisle
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Bradley Whitehead wins us the game

Australia duty
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World Cup Asia Qualifers Game 3
Australia vs Qatar
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Leckie and Edwards keep us on the winning run

World Cup Asia Qualifers Game 4
Thailand vs Australia
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We put 3 past Thailand to keep us on track

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Sky Bet Championship Game 12
Ipswich vs Carlisle
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We overturn Ipswich early goal with 3 goals from Samuel, Ince and Mitchell

Suspension
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5 yellow cards mean that Matthew Clarke is banned for 1 game

Loan Return
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Rory McArdle returns to the club

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Sky Bet Championship Game 13
Carlisle vs Brentford
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Game to forgot as we lose 2-0 to Brentford

Injury
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Shane Long has serous hip injury and is out for 4-5 months

Loan extension
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Meppen Walter will remain at Stevenage for a further 3 months

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Sky Bet Championship Game 14
Middlesbrough vs Carlisle
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Sabin has the job done before we even have a chance back in

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Capital One Cup 4th Round
Sheffield Wednesday vs Carlisle United
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Lucas Joao scores the only goal of the game to dump us out the league

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Sky Bet Championship Game 15
Carlisle vs Swindon
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Another goalless game caps off our month

League Table
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We slip out the playoff zone to be sat in the 7th position going into November
 
November 2020 Update​
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Loan deal
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Rory McArdle joins Shrewsbury on a 1 month loan

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Sky Bet Championship Game 16
Cardiff vs Carlisle
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We conceded 3 goals to let Cardiff come from 1-0 down to win 3-1

Sky Bet Championship Game 17
Carlisle vs Leeds
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Bradley Whitehead scores to give us a win over our rivals

Loan deal
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Kyle Marshall joins Wycombe on a months loan

International Duty
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World Cup Asian Qualifers Final Stage Game 5
Lebanon vs Australia
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A 4-0 win takes a is a few steps closer to the World Cup

Suspension
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Hayden Moore gets a 1 match ban

Injury
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Cuco Martina is injured on international duty with Curaçao and Molinero is injured not on international duty but in training.

Friendly
Tunisia vs Australia
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My game I didn't win as the Australia Boss a 1-1 draw against Tunisia

Landmark
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300 games as the Carlisle Boss (317 in total as a manager)

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Sky Bet Championship Game 18
Crystal Palace vs Carlisle United
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We are put in our place as we lose 3-0 to Palace

Sky Bet Championship Game 19
Carlisle vs Burton
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Ryan Freeman scores only goal of the game to get us the win

League Table
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We drop another place as we now sit in 8th position but still in fight for the playoff zone
 
Yeah nice one managed to get promotion second season in championship finding it hard in prem though but will stick at it
 
Yeah nice one managed to get promotion second season in championship finding it hard in prem though but will stick at it

Good luck with premier league pal, if past saves have taught me anything is don't make the jump too quick you need to build up to fight eg Squad depth and finances. I'm planning for promotion either this season or the next.
 
December 2020 Update​
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Sky Bet Championship Game 20
Blackburn vs Carlisle
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We take a 2-0 loss courtesy of Marshall and Gayle

Suspension
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Ryan Tunnicliffe receives a 1 match ban

Injury
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Bradley Whitehead is out for 5-6 days with Flu

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Sky Bet Championship Game 21
Carlisle vs Stoke
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We gain a crucial point against league leaders Stoke

Injury
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Joe Mattock becomes the second player out with Flu

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Sky Bet Championship Game 22
Nottingham Forest vs Carlisle United
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Whitehead and McCormack both score as they show that Samuel not the only one that can score

Suspension
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Tyler Blackett is suspended for one game

Injury
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Molinero slips a disc on his back and may not feature in blue shirt again

Loan deal
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Northampton extends the loan deal

Sky Bet Championship Game 23
Hull City vs Carlisle United
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Dominic Samuel scores a late goal to give us all 3 points

Suspension
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McConell is banned for a game and we receive a 5K fine for receiving 6 yellow cards

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Sky Bet Championship Game 24
Carlisle vs Nottn Forest
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Three goals give us the win courtesy of Whitehead and Samuel

Sky Bet Championship Game 25
Carlisle vs West Brom
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Ross McCormack gets us another crucial point against big rivals

League Table
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25 games in and sitting back in the playoff zone at 5th, 21 games to go.
 
January 2021 Update​
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Australia Best Eleven
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With the turn of the year the Australia best eleven is announced

Injury
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Dominic Samuel is out for 2-3 months with knee ligament injury

Facilities Upgrade
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We will spend in the region of 950K on new training Facilites

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FA Cup 3rd Round
Brighton vs Carlisle
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Bradley Whitehead manages to take us to replay despite many players out injury. We will meet Leyton Orient in the 4th round in the next round if we get through.

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Sky Bet Championship Game 26
Brighton vs Carlisle
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Field the same team to get the same result, hopeful I've have more players back by the next meeting

Injured players
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It gets worst we lose Tunnicliffe and Moussa but at least Cuco Martina is back

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Sky Bet Championship Game 27
Carlisle vs Barnsley
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Joe Thomson scores the only goal of the game to give us the win

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FA Cup 3rd Round Replay
Carlisle vs Brighton
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The youngsters does the job as a both Mitchell and Whitehead score

Injury
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Kyle Marshall is out for 2 weeks with a virus

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Sky Bet Championship Game 28
Sheff Utd vs Carlisle
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A Bradley Whitehead double wins us the game

Loan Return
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Meppen Walter is back from Stevenage

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Sky Bet Championship Game 29
Carlisle vs Huddersfield
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Goals Galore as we pull back a 3-3 draw from 3-1 down

Injury Returns
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Tunnicliffe and Marshall are back fully fit

Injury
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Jack McConell is ruled out with groin strain

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FA Cup 4th Round
Carlisle United vs Leyton Orient
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We put three past them Orient with Mitchell, Blackett and Freeman scoring.

League Table
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We sit 5th in the table and we are looking like a playoff candidate for sure
 
February 2021 Update​
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Awards
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Whitehead's 4 goals in 4 games wins him the young player of the month

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FA Cup draw
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We will play Watford in the 5th round of the cup

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Sky Bet Championship Game 30
Millwall vs Carlisle
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Tyler Blackett and Ryan a Freeman get us a well needed win

Injury Return
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Shane Long returns to the squad

Job Offer
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I reject the Wolves job

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Sky Bet Championship Game 31
Burnley vs Carlisle
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Long staples his return by scoring a winner at Burnley

Loan deal
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Meppen Walter is going back to Stevenage

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Sky Bet Championship Game 32
Carlisle vs Derby
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A loss to Derby harm our playoff attempt

Injury Return
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Jack McConnell is back fit again

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FA Cup 5th Round
Watford vs Carlisle
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We hold Watford to a draw which mean a replay at home. The draw was made and if we can beat Watford we will play Norwich City.
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Sky Bet Championship Game 33
Peterbrough vs Carlisle
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Shane Long strikes again to get us a draw

Sky Bet Championship Game 34
Carlisle vs Reading
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Goalless draw but every point counts now

League Table
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Sitting 6th with a game in hand that will do
 
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March 2021 Update​
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FA Cup 5th Round
Carlisle vs Watford
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A late goal from Joe Thomson puts us into the next round

Loan deal
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Crawley take Rory McArdle on a loan

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Sky Bet Championship Game 35
Brentford vs Carlisle
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Dominic Samuel scores a late winner to get us a point

Suspension
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Ryan Tunnicliffe and Matthew Mitchell are both banned for 2 games and also lands us a fine

Injury Return
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Samuel is now official fully fit despite playing Brentford game not 100

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Sky Bet Championship Game 36
Carlisle vs Fulham
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Another draw for us meaning another point, youngster Bradley Whitehead scoring

Job Offer
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Huddersfield offer me a job which I reject

Injury Return
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Looks like Francisco Molinero will play in Carlisle shirt again

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FA Cup 6th Round
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After lasting a lot longer than we should in he competiton we bow out to Norwich who are one of the favourite

Loan Return
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Meppen Walter is back from another loan

Sky Bet Championship Game 37
Swindon vs Carlisle
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We overturn a 1-0 lead to come out with the 2-1 win

International Duty
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Record
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I break the record for Australia highest ranking at 9th, to think when I took over they were sitting down in the 40th

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Sky Bet Championship Game 38
Carlisle vs Cardiff
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A loss to Cardiff sets us back again

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World Cup Asia Qualifying Game 6
Japan vs Australia
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6 out of 6 were surely on way to China

Suspension
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Bailey Wright is given a 1 match suspension

Loan deal
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Meppen Walter joins Cambridge on loan

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Sky Bet Championship 39
Carlisle vs Ipswich
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The youngster strike again as a Whitehead hat trick and Hill Header gives us 4-1 win

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World Cup Asia Qualifying Game 7
Australia vs Jordan
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Still rolling were going for the whitewash and guess what have booked our place in China. So far there only China, Tunisia and ourself there
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Sky Bet Championship Game 40
Carlisle vs Middlesbrough
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A penalty gets us a shock win over the leaders

Job offer
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I reject a job offer from Hull City

League Table
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Right in the thick sitting 4th in the table with 6 games to go .
 
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April 2021 Update​
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Awards
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Bradley Whitehead wins the player of the month award with Matthew Mitchell coming third

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Sky Bet Championship Game 41
Leeds vs Carlisie
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Moussa and Samuel help us get a 2-1 win over the rivals

Sky Bet Championship Game 42
Carlisle United vs Crystal Palace
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Palaces late goal means our playoff fight goes on

Injury
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Kevin Hill is out with a dead leg

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Sky Bet Championship Game 43
Burton vs Carlisle
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4-2 is just what we need Whitehead, Samuel and Freeman all scoring

Injury
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Freeman is out with a bruised head

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Sky Bet Championship Game 44
Carlisle vs Blackburn
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Goalless at Blackburn but a point is critical at this point

Injury
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Another player out injured this time it is Archibald Henville

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Sky Bet Championship Game 45
Carlisle vs Stoke
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Britt Assombalonga singled handly destroys my team a hat trick

Injury
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Francisco Mollinero and Mark Gilliespie are both ruled out with food poisoning and hernia respectively

League Table
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With 1 to go we sit 5th and booked our place in the playoff will we finished 5th and 6th
 
May 2021 Update​
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Injury
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Archibald Henville reinjuries himself in training with chest injury

Award
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Ryan Freeman picks up the April player of the month

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Sky Bet Championship Game 46
Carlisle vs Hull City
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We confirmed our 5th place finish in the table

League Table
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There we are in 5th position and will meet West Brom in the playoff

Playoff Semi Final first leg
Carlisle vs West Brom
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We get that two goal cushion in the first leg

Playoff Semi Final second leg
West Brom vs Carlisle
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West Brom win but it's not enough as we get through to the final

Final
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We will meet Stoke City in the final

Injury
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Martina is out with chest injury

Injury Return
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Archibald Henville is back at training again

Injury
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David Martin is ruled which leaves me a huge problem

Goalkeeper troubles
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Gilliespie and Martin are both injured and I can't recall Martin Serrell and James Phillips in time so I'm forced to start 17 year old Kelechi Godwin.

Playoff Final
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Absolutely gutting going all the way to penalty shootout only to lose to on the last kick. Kelechi Godwin played his heart out despite it being his debut. They always say that succeed comes after fall so next season I'm going for it we are going to take the title

Award
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Ryan Freeman wins the young Player of the Year

Team Awards
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Ryan Tunnicliffe banks his third award in three year with 61% vote I thought there would of been some closer contenders

2015/6- Gary Dicker
2016/7- Liam Noble
2017/8- Liam Noble
2018/19- Ryan Tunnicliffe
2019/20- Ryan Tunnicliffe
2020/21- Ryan Tunnicliffe

The young player of the season once again goes to a new competitor and the winner was loanee Ryan Freeman

2015/6- Bastien Hery
2016/7- Johnny Burns
2017/8- Alexander McQueen
2018/9- Andrija Novakovich
2019/20- Matthew Mitchell
2020/21- Ryan Freeman

The signing of the season is once again Tyler Blackett but a free transfer rather loan deal

This year's top scorer was a surprise as Bradley Whitehead netted 25 goals the season

The team of the season was as follows : Gilliespie, Martina, Clarke, O'Connell, Blackett, Tunnicliffe, Ince, Freeman, Moussa, Samuel and Whitehead

Best Eleven
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Three players join the Best Eleven squad, Jack O'Connell goes into the first team and David Martin and Bradley Whitehead join the bench

Squad - Gilliespie, Martina, O'Connell, Meppen Walter, Mattock, Ince, Tunnicliffe, Osei, Moussa, Samuel and Novakovich
Subs - Martin, Grainger, Noble, Kennedy, Whitehead, McQueen and Ibehre

Season Review
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We up to 71% attendance and used more players but we need use more

Budgets set
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4.32M to spend on transfers and 210K for wages I'll take that

Youth development
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The club decides to increase the youth development budget

Training Facilites
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Construction starts on our new trading Facilites

Injury Return
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Martin returns from injury

Retirement
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David Martin announces his retirement date which is two years from now

Commercial Summary
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The finances are looking healthy this year and the shirt sales are up aswell which proves that we have a bigger market in Holland then Belgium or Germany. The top 5 shirt sales were Tunnicliffe, Samuel, Whitehead, Long and Ince


 
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Competition Review​


Champions League
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Winners: Manchester City
Runner Up : Chelsea

UEFA Cup
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Winners: Liverpool
Runners Up: Wolfsburg

Premier League
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Winners: Manchester United
Runners Up: Chelsea
Champions League Spot : Arsenal and Manchester City*
Europa League Spot: Tottenham, Southampton and West Ham
Relegated : Wolves , Watford and Q.P.R
*Man City finished 5th but won the champions league so they take Tottenham place

Sky Bet Championship
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Winners: Crystal Palace
Runners Up: Middlesbrough
Playoff Winner: Stoke City
Relegated : Burton, Ipswich and Swindon

Sky Bet League 1
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Winners: Portsmouth
Runners Up: Bristol City
Playoff Winner: Coventry City
Relegated : Southend, Bradford, Cambridge and Bolton

Sky Bet League 2
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Winners: Leyton Orient
Runner Up: Bury
3rd Place: Plymouth
Playoff Winner: Notts County
Relegated: Barnet and Crawley

Other notables

For the second year running a debut team joins football league last year Barrow AFC, This year AFC Fylde join Port Vale in promotion

Also I have notice that Morecambe and Bristol Rovers are downward sprial as they have just dropped into the Conference north/ south leagues

FA Cup
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Winners: Arsenal
Runners Up: Newcastle United

Capital One Cup
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Winners: Chelsea
Runners Up: Sheffield Wednesday

Johnstone's Paint Trophy
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Winners: MK Dons
Runners Up: Doncaster Rovers
 
Tough luck in the playoff final mate, that must have been a killer. Hopefully next season automatic promotion is on the cards!
 
Tough luck in the playoff final mate, that must have been a killer. Hopefully next season automatic promotion is on the cards!

It's a ballache like I feel like if I would of had Gilliespie or even Martin in the sticks we would be in the prem now but with that big transfer budget we are title contenders this year.
 
June 2021 Update​
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Injury Return
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Mark Gilliespie Is back fully fit

Job offer
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Watford offer me the job but I reject

Injury Return
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Martina returns from his short injury

Player Departure
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Archibald Henville decides to leave club after finishing his contract

Youth Signing
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I sign 6 youths into the reserve team , Max Hutchinson, Karl Bird and Nathan Fraser from Manchester United, Kingsley Nwankwo from Arsenal, Brian Miller from Chelsea and Kevin Hewitt from Everton

Australia Duties
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World Cup Asia Qualifer Game 8
Qatar vs Australia
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We absolute smash Qatar putting 5 past them

Youth Intakes
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Only really David Hendry interests me the rest are all just squad fillers

Loan Extension
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Freeman rejoins the club for another year

Friendly
Bulgaria vs Australia
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Leckie scores the only goal of the game to get us a win

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The annual cup competition between the clubs is organised and we will play Penrith

Training Camp
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The training camp is going to be Dublin, Ireland this year and we play trying games against Fulham,St Pats and Wigan
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Tour
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We will be touring Switzerland this year playing in Bern, Zurich and St Gallen against Young Boys, AFC Zurich, Grasshoppers and St Gallen

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Bern
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Zurich
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St Gallen

Season Review
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Biggest overachievers once again

Fixture list
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We will meet Reading on the opening day

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Cup draw
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We will meet Grimsby Town in the first round

Releases
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Some youth are released from there contract

New links
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Two new links we set up a link with Czech Republic with Pribram as feeder club. The second link is with Chelsea as they become a parent club

Parent Clubs
Chelsea- England

Feeder Clubs
Annan Athletic - Scotland
Workington Town - England
Kendal Town - England
Cork City - Ireland
Cliftonville - Ireland
FK Borac Cacak - Serbia
Pribram- Czech Republic

Record
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We break our average attendance record

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Cumberland Cup Semi Final
Carlisle vs Penrith
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First meeting with Penrith goes brilliantly winning 7-0 and this was mainly the youth team could of been 10 or 11 if we full strength. We get another meeting with Barrow in the final
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Friendly Annoucement
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We Announce 3 friendly to be played at Brunton park Borussia Dortmund, AS Monaco and Sporting Gijon are our opponents

Loan Return
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8 players return from loan

Loan deal
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My First deal of the window I sign James Bennett in a season long loan from Chelsea

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Cumberland Cup Final
Carlisle vs Barrow
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It's takes a penalties shoutout but we're champions again
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Retirement
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We end on bad news as Rory McArdle and Francisco Mollinero announce there retirement sad times

 
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Good luck with premier league pal, if past saves have taught me anything is don't make the jump too quick you need to build up to fight eg Squad depth and finances. I'm planning for promotion either this season or the next.
yeah there not throwing too much money my way but thats the challange
 
July 2021 Update​
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Tour

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We start our tour in Switzerland were on route to Bern

Switzerland Tour Game 1
BSC Young Boys vs Carlisle United
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Great to the tour a massive 4-0 win Ryan Freeman scoring, youngster Max Hutchinson and new boy loanee James Bennett. The city of Zurich next .

Injury
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Joe Thomson is out with a twisted ankle

Season Tickets Update
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1,220 tickets sold so far

Player sale
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Meppen Walter joins Preston for 145K

Switzerland Tour Game 2
Grasshoppers vs Carlisle United
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Goalless draw for a second game of the tour

Switzerland Tour Game 3
Fc Zurich vs Carlisle United
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Bit of shock but we lose 4-2 to Zurich luckily it's only a friendly

Injury
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Whitehead is ruled out with injury

Signings completed
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Two additions to the club to help with squad Winger Shane Ferguson will drop straight into the starting line up and Leroy Fer provides good backup and experience in the centre

Switzerland Tour Game 4
St Gallen vs Carlisle United
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We finish tour in the city of St Gallen and the signing prove well as Bennett and Feguson scoring

Injury
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Loanee James Bennett is ruled out the start of the season

Dublin Training Camp Game 1
Fulham vs Carlisle
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Our training camp starts off with draw 2-2

World Ranking/Record
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My Australia are now up to 6th in the rankings, World Cup contenders ?

Dublin Training Camp Game 2
St Pat's vs Carlisle
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Whitehead is the stand out man scoring 3 goals in a 5-1 win

Injury
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Shane Ferguson is out with back strain for 4-5 weeks

Ticket Sales
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We sold 2,348 tickets so far

Dublin Training Camp Game 3
Wigan vs Carlisle
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Dominic Samuel scores the winner in our last training camp game

Friendly
Carlisie United vs Borussia Dortmund
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Dortmund shows who is boss as were on wrong side of 3-0 loss

Promotion Odds
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We are Ranked at 40/1 to get get promoted

Friendly
Carlisle vs Monaco
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Decent game just no goals the youngsters played well

Season Tickets Update
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We now up to 3,059 season tickets sold

Friendly
Carlisle United vs Sporting Gijon
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A game we should of won here but slip up and end up 2-1 down

Friendly
Carlisle United vs Chelsea
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As part of the new link we have our friendly and Eden Hazard is the only scorer
 
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August 2021 Update Part 1​
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It's a short post this time because a lot action is in the back end of the month but I'm going to do the pecking orders again with the new players

Injury Return
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Joe Thomson returns from 4 weeks twisted ankle injury

New signing
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Two new signing this year, the first was 425K capture of Derby right back Ashley Richards former Swansea man. The second player was 575K Left Back Kgosi Ntlhe from Huddersfield. The two players offer a lot of experience to the club and help bolster our promotion chances .
 
Squad Pecking Order​

Goalkeeper

1. 1.Mark Gilliespie
2. 41. James Phillips
3. 13. David Martin
4. 50. Martin Serrell

Only change in this lineup is that Phillips and Martin are now at the same level. I think I'm still going send Phillips on loan just to improve him a little bit more but he replaces Martin after his retirement

Right Back

1. 12. Ashley Richards
2. 2. Cuco Martina
3. 39. Kingsley Nwankwo

Some new faces in this position Richards in the top spot, Martina as the rotation and hope to give Nwankwo his debut this year but he operates in a WB position which gives us more shape

Left Back

1. 27. Kgosi Ntlhe
2. 24. Tyler Blackett
3. 3. Joe Mattock
4. 48. David Hendry

Ntlhe is the best option at left back but Blackett doubles up as centre back that's good then we use Mattock as a back up option. Hendry may get a debut this year.

Centre Back

1. 6 . Matthew Clarke
2. 14. Winston Reid
3. 5. Jack McConnell
4. 26. Kevin Hill
5. 25. Kyle Marshall
6. 37. Brian Miller
7. 35. Tony Baker
8. 38. Nathan Fraser

Clarke and Reid the obvious starting two with McConell as cover then it would be Blackett if not playing left back. Hill will get starts as rotation and Marshall will get a handful of starts. Miller and Fraser may get debuts and Baker is on last legs at the club

Defensive Midfielder

1. 8. Matthew Mitchell
2. 4. Rohan Ince
3. 45. Paul McAuley
4. 43. Yousef Livingstone
5. 47. Karl Bird

Mitchell is first choice with Ince second but both can operate as CM. McAuley will operate between backup and short loans. Livingstone and Bird are likely to get debuts.

Centre Midfielder

1. 16. Ryan Tunnicliffe
2. 23. Duane Holmes
3. 31. Leroy Fer
4. 40. Kevin Hewitt
5. 44. Steve Hogg

Doesn't like a lot option but when up you considered Mitchell and Ince aswell it is. Tunnicliffe is a starter, Holmes a rotation and Fer a experienced Backup. Hewitt and Hogg may get debuts this year.

Right Midfield/Winger

1. 7. Ryan Freeman
2. 33. Joe Thomson
3. 42.Martyn Barr

Freeman is the obvious starter with Thomson as a cover. Barr is youngster option but is abit hit and miss

Left Midfield/Winger

1. 15. Rob Hall
2. 18. Shane Ferguson
3. 11. Franck Moussa
4. 36 . Max Hutchinson

Hall and Ferguson will have even rotation in this position, Moussa as a Backup and Hutchinson will be given his debut this season

Attacking Midfielder

1. 20.Ben Reeves (signed in next post)

Offer a little flexiblity and can try some new formation

Strikers

1. 32. James Bennett
2. 10. Dominic Samuel
3. 19. Bradley Whitehead
4. 17. Shane Long
5. 9. Ross McCormack

Loanee Bennett becomes my first option with Samuel and Whitehead close seconds with Long and McCormack as experienced backups.
 
Squad depth/Formation​


Just a few pictures of the new formation and the amount of the squad depth in the squad

4-4-2
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This is our strongest formation and was used a lot last season

4-5-1
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Another formation I used a lot last season for a more defensive approach but is very counter attack approach

5-3-2
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With this formation I will play it against the bigger team with more defensive approach

4-2-3-1
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With the addition of Ben Reeves I will include this formation as more of rotation formation .
 
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