And it's an attitude like this that makes you wonder why they don't bring the cane back.
hahahaha, brong back the cane? WTF, i have just left school at 18, if a teacher gave me the cane, i would whack them back, there is a few teachers i wouldnt need an excuse to give a big smack on the mouth.
And it's an attitude like this that makes you wonder why they don't bring the cane back.
What because at 18, i would hit someone back if they hit me? There is plenty of teachers who are rude, petty and general dickheads all the time to students. There behaviour is similar to these students "who deserve the cane." We live in Modern Society where plain Acts of Voilence should not be and is not accepted, Why should this change in a school. If i was in a pub winding people up, would it be accepted for someone to hit me round the back of the head with a piece of wood? So why should schools be any different.
Cos its a school, and this is where a child is taught how to act in the world.
Obviously - the problem starts at home,as I think Billy mentioned earlier - but there needs to be something more strict in place at school, so kids don't think they can get away with murder. I've seen some of the little ***** knocking about around my area who are 16-17. They think they can go around, doing what they want and saying what they want. I went to school with them too, and they did exactly the same thing.
Now I don't know if this is because their parents simply didn't give a **** and let them have free reign of the house, or if it was because our headmaster and teachers at school simply weren't strict enough on them. It's my firm belief that there needs to be something in place, not necessarily the cane, in order to keep specific children on the straight and narrow - the ones who think they can break the rules, that is.
There is absolutely no respect in the classroom nowadays for the teacher. Some teachers may act like dickheads, but maybe that's a good thing? Playing the idiots who do it to them at their own game.
Still Voilence shouldnt be an answer to a teachers failings to control there class, We had some of the biggest ***** in the world at our school, but still a cane would of been no good to these, it would of maje them even worse, they would see voilence as a better thing, they're limits of "how far they would go" would go up. There parents should be dealing with it, i agree with you there, but to simply say bring it back in schools and voilence is the answer is stupid.
I didn't say it was the root of all problems being solved. I did mention that there should be something in place, not necessarily the cane.
Violence isn't the answer you're right, but in some cases I think that it might just strike fear back into the kids eyes so they respect the teachers. Some kids think they can walk all over the staff at school. You could get the best teacher ever, but if the children won't agree with them, what can they do? That's a whole class disrupted. You can send the child out but not forever. Can't move them into another class that he can disrupt. So do you expel the child?
I'm not saying the cane should definitely be brought back, nor am I suggesting that violence is the answer - I just think there needs to be something in place so kids are made to know that the teacher is the king of the castle, so they don't walk all over them and ruin the lesson for everyone else.
That is the answer, Kick them kids out. They dont want to be in School. No-one wants them in school. So why not kick them out, and then they become societies problem, they can be taught a lesson by society. They can get the hiding they need of society.
Hitting me wouldn't help my discipline, my discipline's fine, I've like never been in trouble in school, getting hit would just want me to take revenge. I agree there are too many ASBO'S and 'Chavs' walking the streets but that has to be handled another way
The attitude that if you do something wrong you get punished by recieving physical pain is archaic. Hey, why not start chopping peoples hands off for stealing too?
I could be like framed or something, or my work might not be complete or somethin'But there not gonna hit for you no reason though? :S
I could be like framed or something, or my work might not be complete or somethin'