Complete Dominance

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Complete Dominance/ Ultimo Domination

these are not my tactics there are Mr Hough

Hello Guys, After the Fantastic success of my 'Possession Domination' Thread and Tactics I've decided to make a new one with a complete different formation and style of play.

I call this Complete Dominance because when i've used it thats what it's done, Dominated the opp so much that they can rarely get out of there own half.

the players positions are very standard i'll run through them for you so you guys know what to look for.

Goalkeeper

Aerial Ability Reflexes Handling Communication Positioning

Center backs

Heading Marking Tackling Positioning Teamwork Anticipation Strength

Fullbacks

Stamina Positioning Crossing Tackling Workrate Teamwork Pace

Anchor Man

Passing Workrate Determination Anticipation Teamwork Stamina Tackling Strength

Center Midfield

Passing Workrate Determination First Touch Stamina Anticipation Off the ball

Attacking Midfield

Dribbling First Touch Creativity Off the ball Acceleration Pace Passing Finishing

Advanced Forward

Finishing Dribbling First Touch Technique Off the Ball Flair Pace Strength Balance Composure

Poacher

Finishing First Touch Off the ball Composure Determiantion Pace Technique

there's some screenshots of match results

Finally here is the Tactic Link i really hope you enjoy this tactic i think it's very good if you guys need anymore information let me know

FM10 Version 10.0 and 10l.1

http://www.filefront.com/15125969/Co... 2011).tac

http://www.filefront.com/15140361/Co... 2011).tac

version 10.2

http://www.filefront.com/15192787/Co... 2010).tac
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ko9g83

Craggswfc Tweaked Better Defence Version

http://www.zshare.net/download/706493052b67fb41/
http://www.sendspace.com/file/9q1bxu

I'm not sure what he hads changed with this as i haven't tried it yet.

Ohanzee's Tweaked 'Classic' Version of my 10.2 tactic

http://www.filefront.com/15252021/41...-Jul-2010.tac/

This tactic is classic like FM09 so no roles or shouts in this.

Ohanzee's Classic Tactic with my elegant twist on things 'The Hybrid'

http://hotfile.com/dl/22712054/d94fe...2010).tac.html
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jvehtk

i changed a few things from Ohanzee's Version with fullbacks and strikers being the main things the strikers are set differently the Right Striker will be the more creative and the left the more stronger type.

Elephant Stones Tweaked tactic Very good reports about this one as it use's Justified's 'Nike' Defence set-up and it strong at the back with out losing any attacking ability

http://www.sendspace.com/file/tzy7hu

Thanks to Everyone who has tried/commented on the tactic's above thanks very much


Some tweaks that people have made credit goes to ROONEY_08 for this one.
Change the marking on the central defenders to ZONAL and change the marking on the Left and Right Fullback from ZONAL to MAN marking

Credit for this one goes to HAMMER1000.
Just After kick off pause the game and use the RETAIN POSSESION, PASS TO FEET and STAY ON FEET shouts These will help defence out alot also if holding onto a lead you can change the stratagy from overload to defensive

OI's are VERY important strikers left right wide midfielders wingers and ACM's always use these Closing down on these players

Pitch Size:- Smallest
If need any more info it here
http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=175981
http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/downloads.php?do=file&id=1534
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The success I've had with my Previous tactics has been phenominal and thanks to everyone who has contributed and downloaded my tactics i hope you have enjoyed them as much as i have.

Right move onto my new tactic the Ultimo Domination, I decided to make this tactic after having Success with Elephant_Stones tweaked version of my tactic and using the 3 Men strike-force my friend Mike_dodgson Pointed out to me that the classic tactics where perhaps a step backwards and why would SI put the tactic creater in the game if they didn't want us to use it.

I thought about this for a while and though yeah he's right they want us to use the Creater for a reason so with a new lease and more motivation i decided to put all my efforts into making a 3 striker tactic as this has very good success with the new patch 10.2.

This tactic is Narrow and will create alot of chances for the 3 strikers also see the midfielders popping up in the attack positions to and try and nick the odd goal.

This is this Formation of the Ultimo as you can see it's very similar to the complete dominace apart from the 3 striker with the one in the middle is a deep lying striker on support.


I've tested this tactic with 2 middle teams in 2 different leagues.

Bayer Leverkusen i won the league in 29 games they where predicted to finish 8th which is a fantastic acheivement and to be honest this is proberly my easyest league win

As you can see from the screen that i have scored the most goals and conceded the least.

In my other game testing with Huddersfield i wanted to choose a team that is not lower lower league and there media prediction wasn't high.

I'm still playing this and i have only got through 17 games but i haven't lost yet either in the league or the cups i've played in

this is the league table and my fixtures so far



Here is the Link To The Tactic.

http://hotfile.com/dl/23758682/e83bb...2009).tac.html
http://www.filefront.com/15334751/Ul... 2009).tac

Here is the Link To The Tactic. (Updated 13th January with new instructions)
http://hotfile.com/dl/24065451/0b6b1...2010).tac.html
http://www.filefront.com/15357435/Ul... 2010).tac

Updated instructions on January 13th:
i've made some changes to the tactic.

1. I changed the fullbacks closing down.
2. I changed centerback's closing down. (The two of them now have different closing down)
3. I changed the two central midfielders' AND the three Strikers' passing to "direct". (The first notch of direct).
4. You should now use new OI's: Close down always on: ML MR AMR AML. Tight Marking always on: ST (and AMC's)

Updated 22nd January.

Here is my Ultimo V2.

It's a Classic Tactic so no shouts or roles this might upset people (Mike Dodgson LMAO) but it's the only way i could get the team and settings playing exactly how i wnted them to.

I've been testing this for a long time and hopefully this will sort out defensive issues people are having.

On testing i won the league with tottenham it took some time for the team to gel but after that i was flying with convincing wins 4-0 over chelsea at there ground liverpool ect....

this is my final league table as you can see i scored the most goals and conceded the least aswell



haven't been using any OI's so Don't use them.

I was having trouble with the counter of top top teams so if you have this trouble pull the D-line back 2 notches and the full backs mentality back 2 notches aswell.

All the Attributes you need for each position are the same but i would suggest playing you more creative forwards in the left and right striker spot and your more dangerous out and out striker in the middle.

it's a sweeper/stopper defence so you want your more pacy defender on the left as stopper and your more positional composed defender on the right.

here is the link to the tactic i hope you have fun with it.

http://www.filefront.com/15402879/Ul... 2010).tac


Updated 7.02.10

This is V3 I'm releasing it as a BETA cos i might make some more changes as i play more games.

Ask *** man on OI's and Use bubba bay tuna as team talk Reference.

I only use one shout and thats work ball into box Use this as it will stop you having long shots and keep posession better.

If you have a slow defence pull the D-Line back 2 notches other than that leave the tactic as it is.

When i say slow defence i mean like 12/13 for pace and acceleration any thing above that will be ok.

Players attributtes are still the same from the OP so have a look at them if your not sure on what players.

Remember cos i've had this a few times that if you try and sign a player and your *** man says you shouldn't sign him he's only saying that cos his rep isn't good but if he has the attributtes in the right places sign him.

http://www.filefront.com/15523077/Ul... 2011).tac
http://www.sendspace.com/file/y7ioe6
http://hotfile.com/dl/27532826/d454f...2011).tac.html

There is 3 download links if you need any more let me know.

This version use's playmaker and target man these players are your central mid players it don't matter which one is which as they both have the same settings just when you set your team up make sure that they are in the right boxes


the player Requirements you wanna look for.

Goalkeeper

Aerial Ability Reflexes Handling Communication Positioning

Center backs

Heading Marking Tackling Positioning Teamwork Anticipation Strength

Fullbacks

Stamina Positioning Crossing Tackling Workrate Teamwork Pace

Anchor Man

Passing Workrate Determination Teamwork Stamina Tackling Strength Team Work

Center Midfield

Passing Workrate Team Work Determination First Touch Stamina Off the ball

Deep-Lying Forward

Dribbling First Touch Creativity Off the ball Acceleration Pace Passing Finishing

Advanced Forward

Finishing Dribbling First Touch Technique Off the Ball Flair Pace Strength Balance Composure

Poacher

Finishing First Touch Off the ball Composure Determiantion Pace Technique

Try these Shouts at the start of the game
Retain Possession
Pass Into Space
Stand-off Opp

Also try the Following OI's at the start aswell
Tight marking ALWAYS on MR ML AML AMR ST
Closing Down ALWAYS on MR ML AML AMR ST

If your managing Lower league and your defence isn't quick you wanna have at least 10 for Pace and Acceleration you could try lowering the D-Line a few notches then when you get better players move it back up to where it was.

If your trying to see out games that are close use the shouts
Change stratagy to Counter
Retain Possession
Clear ball to Flanks
You could also try slowing the tempo and put the time wasting on higher

Use the Smallest Pitch Size Available

Use Bubba Bay Tuna's Team Talks aswell there here http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=182360

I use Tuggs Training.

I've tried to answer all the questions that i'll proberly get asked if you need anything else let me know
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Patch 10.3

Mr Hough 10.3 Tactics
Hey, As the new patch is here i thought i'd make a new tactic to go with the new patch.

I've had alot of fantastic feedback from the other threads and tactics i've posted not just on this site but on others aswell which is great considering i've never made tactics before FM10.


Here is screen shots of the 2 tactics i will be releasing one is classic and on is wizard.

http://s461.photobucket.com/albums/qq336/lastorders_2008/?action=view&current=classic.jpg


http://s461.photobucket.com/albums/qq336/lastorders_2008/?action=view&current=wizard.jpg

The wizard version is the BETA i released earlier and the Classic tactic is the one i have had the most success with.

The Player Requirements like in any tactic are very important I remember loaning a player called Mike Hanke and someone posted "Mike Hanke @ everton ? He is one of the worst 1st division players in germany". Mike hanke for me has scored 33 goals in 51 games.

The point i'm making is you a team of great players but if they don't have the right attributtes for the tactic then they won't play as good.

Keeper. Aerial Ability Command of area Handling One on Ones Reflexes Positioning Agility.

Fullbacks. Tackling - Marking Positioning Teamwork Workrate Anticipation Stamina.

Central Defenders. Marking Tackling Positioning Heading Determination Anticipation Pace Jumping.

Anchor Man. Heading Marking Tackling Anticipation Concentration Decisions Positioning Workrate Team Work Strenth.

Central Midfielder. First Touch Passing Decisions Off The Ball Positioning Teamwork.

Advanced Forward. Dribbling Finishing First Touch Composure Off The Ball

Deep Lying Forward. Creativity Decisions First Touch Off The Ball Technique Passing.

Pitch Size: Minimum.

Training: Tuggs Training.

Team Talks: Can be found here I think these are the most effective http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=182360

Opposition Instructions: I have been using any at all, I will be testing using them and not using them to see what happens.

I won the quadruple in my first season at everton my only signings where. Mike Hanke Baris Ozbek on loan signings and in january Ben Sahar also on loan
http://s461.photobucket.com/albums/qq336/lastorders_2008/?action=view&current=quadruple.jpg

I tested with huddersfield on holiday mode thoughout the season i bought in 2 players nathan tyson and danny butterfield

http://s461.photobucket.com/albums/qq336/lastorders_2008/?action=view&current=HuddersfieldTest.jpg


Here is the link to the Classic Tactic. The one i used with everton and huddersfield
http://www.filefront.com/15775207/10... 2010).tac

This is the Link to the Beta i Released last week alot of people have had success with this and i'll be posting there screen shots up later on.

I will be working more on this beta because i think it's leaky in defence.
http://www.filefront.com/15775317/10... 2010).tac

If you give feedback can you tell me which version you are using thanks.

also here http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/f72/mr-houghs-wonder-tactic-t32044.html
 
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djfuts

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gonna give this one a go with my udinese team.... so far won 3 games 2-3 away to ac milan, 2-4 away to lazio and 3-0 at home to sampdoria

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ok now have won 7/8 with the loss being an unlucky defeat away to chelsea

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won 11/12 now awesome stuff thus far

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btw i have found if your team are not coping well, say in a tough away game and opposition have had a couple of early chances switching to counter strategy works well
 

KIAStumpy

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1st game V birmingham home 6.0 win
2nd game V liverpool away 2.0 loss well unlucky 2 mad goals given away = pc decided to make me loss
3rd game V arsenal home finished 2.0 to me with 13 shots to there 10 so over all have to say one of the better tactics i have used
didnt tweek it in any way and midfield needs steel so it could improve a lot
so all in all 9 outa 10
brilliant job m8y
 

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i just took udinese to the title with 3 games to go, happy with this given that the last 3 fixtures are juve and genoa away and roma at home! and now i can give the youth a chance rather than a nailbiting finish to the season.
 

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This tactic is class m8 well done it works on lower teams aswell they tipped me for 7th but im not losing lol just got rid ov some players and signed a few that would fit the tactic and its well good got to second round of the fa cup went out to leeds away 6-1 lol but beat carlise 5-0 at home who are league 1 so (but they where rock bottom) but thanks m8
 

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1st game V birmingham home 6.0 win
2nd game V liverpool away 2.0 loss well unlucky 2 mad goals given away = pc decided to make me loss
3rd game V arsenal home finished 2.0 to me with 13 shots to there 10 so over all have to say one of the better tactics i have used
didnt tweek it in any way and midfield needs steel so it could improve a lot
so all in all 9 outa 10
brilliant job m8y
Sounds good, you say you didn't tweak it any way. Does that mean you did not use the shouts recomended after kick off
Just After kick off pause the game and use the RETAIN POSSESION, PASS TO FEET and STAY ON FEET shouts
Also did you not use the Opposition instructions either?
OI's are VERY important strikers left right wide midfielders wingers and ACM's always use these Closing down and Tight Marking ALWAYS on these players
 

KingEric

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First match with this tactic I thrashed Porto 4-0 away in the CL. Looking good. Will post back in a while with more results
 

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this tactic is for me, maybe. cause i love dominate than just attacking, if u dominate u'll win its obvious isn't it? :D
 

cooper1989

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i got sacked by lewes lol got them promoted with 105 points over 100 goals won the league by 30 points lol only because i wanted to renew some contracts and didnt have the wage budget so asked for more funds because some bloke bought the club and we had money but they sacked me lol then half way the next season pompey wanted me there in a bad way in the championship but this tactic will sort that out again very gd tactic m8

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first game 4-0 win away to pne and they was 6th and on gd form again very gd tactic m8
 

Tobe2k10

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Gunna give this a bash been using goals galore atm.

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nah didnt work. lost 1-0 to hull at home. I'm Man Utd sorry.
 

KingEric

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Superb!! Played 10, Won 10. Most victories are by 2/3 goals and i've not even been close to drawing a match let alone losing one. For me, the best tactic on this site!!
 

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Gunna give this a bash been using goals galore atm.

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nah didnt work. lost 1-0 to hull at home. I'm Man Utd sorry.
dont use it for one game, your team need to adjust, you cant expect instant sucesss
 

djfuts

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starting second season now of these tactics first game draw but always start season slowww
 

izzy666

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funny tactic thats why i play it. Terrible thing is our possesion every game is around ~40% max :p, but enjoyin football at least.
 

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To any one who is having success with this tactic on 10.2, are you using the OI and the shouts from the start of the match?

I have been using this tactic with them and been doing poor, so i decided to do a test i saved it before a Away game and played it 4 times, One with the OI and Shouts/One with Just OI/One with just shouts, & finally One with no tweaking at all.

With just OI we drew 3-3, we were pushed back most of the game, and 2nd best.

With OI & shouts we drew 1-1, but were not dominate at all.

With just shouts we lost 2-0, Awful performance. Won't be trying that again.

And finaly with no tweaking we won 2-0, Could have been more, they never got out of their half apart from a few counter attacks. We were camped in their half and truly dominated.

So im thinking that to just leave this tactic the way it is will be best with no tweaking what so ever? Just wondering if any one is having success with the Shouts & OI with the 10.2 tactic.

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Since i have stopped using the OI's and shouts i have gone on a great run.

Drew 3-3 Away at Fulham (this was the test game, went with the first result i got 3-3. The other results were just tests)

Drew 2-2 Home West Ham
Won 2-0 Away Sheff Utd
Drew 3-3 Away Aston Villa (Was 3-1 down with 15 mins to go)
Won 1-0 Home Spurs
Some good results their, this is my first season back up in the Premier.
Sheff Utd away was a big one, both me and Sheff Utd had only won 1 game each(But i had drawn 7 games and Sheff Utd had only drawn 1) But this was a big result, we were sitting in 19th and Sheff Utd in 20th, I was without a win in 7 games. So a morale boosting win.

Aston Villa away was a very good result, they were sitting in 4th and we were 17th. Was 3-1 down by the 52 min and up untill the 75 min it was wave after wave of Villa attack, untill my subsitute striker scored in the 75th min and then again in the 78th min to make it 3-3.
And then it was us with wave after wave of attack & maybe should have won the game.
But saying that, The amount of shots my keeper saved when we was 3-1 down from all the Villa pressure, i guess we were lucky to get the draw. :D

And Spurs at home what more can i say than Fantastic. They had won the Premier League and FA Cup last season on my save and when we played them they had won their last 7 games straight in the league, But we got an early goal and managed to hang on.

Plus at half time Redknap used all his subs and in the 61st min it backfired on him as Woodgate got injured, so they played the rest of the game with 10 men.

But we still had to fight hard to hang on and maybe could have got a 2nd near the end when Spurs were throwing every one forwad.
Overall Spurs had 0 ccc 8 shots on target but all from long range, Our defense did good that every shot on target was a long ranged shot.



This is a great tactic for 10.2, Will play on more tomorrow night and fingers crossed for more of the same.
Thanks for sharing. :)
 
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cragswfc

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i got sacked by lewes lol got them promoted with 105 points over 100 goals won the league by 30 points lol only because i wanted to renew some contracts and didnt have the wage budget so asked for more funds because some bloke bought the club and we had money but they sacked me lol then half way the next season pompey wanted me there in a bad way in the championship but this tactic will sort that out again very gd tactic m8

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first game 4-0 win away to pne and they was 6th and on gd form again very gd tactic m8
thats rubbish getting booted out by lewes. glad u like it

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Gunna give this a bash been using goals galore atm.

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nah didnt work. lost 1-0 to hull at home. I'm Man Utd sorry.
u used it 1 game. dont even man utd lose 1 game in real life????????
 

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Sounds good, you say you didn't tweak it any way. Does that mean you did not use the shouts recomended after kick off


Also did you not use the Opposition instructions either?
nope plugged it in an went
played manu at home 3 games b4 end of sesson and wooped them 4.0
only game i lost was chelsea away and that was 1.0
Quality tactics
Btw i will use shouts and stuff but i didnt see what you typed about it lol will try it later but so far 2nd best tactic i have found
going to try it with a few more top teams like chelsea and arsenal and see what happens
 

cragswfc

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To any one who is having success with this tactic on 10.2, are you using the OI and the shouts from the start of the match?

I have been using this tactic with them and been doing poor, so i decided to do a test i saved it before a Away game and played it 4 times, One with the OI and Shouts/One with Just OI/One with just shouts, & finally One with no tweaking at all.

With just OI we drew 3-3, we were pushed back most of the game, and 2nd best.

With OI & shouts we drew 1-1, but were not dominate at all.

With just shouts we lost 2-0, Awful performance. Won't be trying that again.

And finaly with no tweaking we won 2-0, Could have been more, they never got out of their half apart from a few counter attacks. We were camped in their half and truly dominated.

So im thinking that to just leave this tactic the way it is will be best with no tweaking what so ever? Just wondering if any one is having success with the Shouts & OI with the 10.2 tactic.

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Since i have stopped using the OI's and shouts i have gone on a great run.

Some good results their, this is my first season back up in the Premier.
Sheff Utd away was a big one, both me and Sheff Utd had only won 1 game each(But i had drawn 7 games and Sheff Utd had only drawn 1) But this was a big result, we were sitting in 19th and Sheff Utd in 20th, I was without a win in 7 games. So a morale boosting win.

Aston Villa away was a very good result, they were sitting in 4th and we were 17th. Was 3-1 down by the 52 min and up untill the 75 min it was wave after wave of Villa attack, untill my subsitute striker scored in the 75th min and then again in the 78th min to make it 3-3.
And then it was us with wave after wave of attack & maybe should have won the game.
But saying that, The amount of shots my keeper saved when we was 3-1 down from all the Villa pressure, i guess we were lucky to get the draw. :D

And Spurs at home what more can i say than Fantastic. They had won the Premier League and FA Cup last season on my save and when we played them they had won their last 7 games straight in the league, But we got an early goal and managed to hang on.

Plus at half time Redknap used all his subs and in the 61st min it backfired on him as Woodgate got injured, so they played the rest of the game with 10 men.

But we still had to fight hard to hang on and maybe could have got a 2nd near the end when Spurs were throwing every one forwad.
Overall Spurs had 0 ccc 8 shots on target but all from long range, Our defense did good that every shot on target was a long ranged shot.



This is a great tactic for 10.2, Will play on more tomorrow night and fingers crossed for more of the same.
Thanks for sharing. :)
right so think its better with out oi n shouts. ill gi it a go, like i said it mr hough so i simply followed his instructions. will report back with my thinking, but it might be after xmas

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nope plugged it in an went
played manu at home 3 games b4 end of sesson and wooped them 4.0
only game i lost was chelsea away and that was 1.0
Quality tactics
Btw i will use shouts and stuff but i didnt see what you typed about it lol will try it later but so far 2nd best tactic i have found
going to try it with a few more top teams like chelsea and arsenal and see what happens
whats the best tactic u found
 
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