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RoTHMaNS said:
can you upload your tweaked one ? thanx
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I also added close down more to my defence, as during my test save, big teams were tearing my team apart with crosses. It's a bit of a risk as at times it might harm the defence line. But it worked well and I was able to equal the shutouts record with everton. Of course, Leicester then happened, but that was just random. I was able to come from 4-1 down at half time and lead 5-4 only for them to equalize immediately. Anyways, happy testing and if you have any feedback or advice, please share. P.S OIs - close down more on everyone.
 
guys does anyone have any experience of using romelu lukaku in the AMC position strikerless v16?how does he perform after being retrained?many thanks
 
djs1 said:
guys does anyone have any experience of using romelu lukaku in the AMC position strikerless v16?how does he perform after being retrained?many thanks
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Mate, he is a bad choice for the AMCs positions in this tactic and I wouldn’t recommend buying him.

At the start of the game his CA is 152 and his PA is 164, it means that 92% of his possible CA is already allocated and he will not be changing in the future.

His CA is allocated very poorly for AMCs in this tactic, the huge part of it is allocated into Strength, Jumping Reach and Balance, these attributes are far from being the most important attributes for the AMCs positions and the same time he's got very important attributes for AMCs position at very low level such as Technique, First Touch, Passing, Vision and some other.
 
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TotalFootballFan9 said:
Mate, he is a bad choice for the AMCs positions in this tactic and I wouldn’t recommend buying him.

At the start of the game his CA is 152 and his PA is 164, it means that 92% of his possible CA is already allocated and he will not be changing in the future.

His CA is allocated very poorly for AMCs in this tactic, the huge part of it is allocated into Strength, Jumping Reach and Balance, these attributes are far from being the most important attributes for the AMCs positions and the same time he's got very important attributes for AMCs position at very low level such as Technique, First Touch, Passing, Vision and some other.
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many thanks sir you have been a big help
 
djs1 said:
guys does anyone have any experience of using romelu lukaku in the AMC position strikerless v16?how does he perform after being retrained?many thanks
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just use him and see, you could play your nan in amc in this tactic and she would score. ignore pa and ca, its not the be all and end all
 
joewhite said:
So your trying to say really m8 ignore TFF who probably nows this game better than anyone on this website and in fm.
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Joewhite, you just waste your time trying to reason with El Wray because if you look at this forum and other FM forums then you'll see that there's a huge amount of people that have zero knowledge about FM but they never miss a chance to give an advice or make a suggestion and most of time their advices/suggestions are complete rubbish but if you are going to fight all those people then all time in the world wouldn't be enough to do that.

Just leave El Wray alone and let him "share his wisdom" ;) because soon or later any person that actually play FM and not just only sit at FM forums ;) will find out whose advices should be taken into consideration and whose advices should be ignored.

Btw, I wouldn't call El Wray the noobest person out here and usually he says things that make sense but it looks like he also has his "periods" sometimes. ;)
 
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So this happened with the 4 man defence with my changes:
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Remember my average CA is around 136 I only have two players over 140 CA.

I played all champions league games on counter.

The league finished like this:
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Frustrated I lost that one game but was inbetween the two legs of the Bayern game so the squad was knackered.

Please see tactic I used below:
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joewhite said:
So your trying to say really m8 ignore TFF who probably nows this game better than anyone on this website and in fm.
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i didnt question the amount you perceive he knows about the game. im saying that 'bad' players can out perform their ca and pa or stats for a position. people have played wingers at wbr/wbl and theyve done well. im currently playing a striker at wbr for 8 years and his performance stats are amazing. ive played an mc at wbl and hes been great. someone in this thread said his average ca is 136, if you go by what tff said about lukaku, then he wouldnt improve that guys celtic team. everything, EVERYTHING, in life has to have context. from what tff said, it seemed like no matter who you are lukaku is bad, if youre in the 20th tier of english football and you play him at amc in this tactic, he'll destroy the league. tff didnt say if youre a top team to not buy him cause theres better for amc, he said outright that hes bad

you could start a parallel save when you have lukaku and play him at amc, see how he does. if it doesnt work out then go back to the other save.

ive no problem with you joewhite, never had an issue with anything youve said. i was about to kick off with kupomevavo but i read his last line and it made me smile so ill let you off ha oO)oO)oO). no problem with either of you, i just think ca doesnt make a team, people who use tff tactics have won the champions league with far less than average ca
 
I tend to follow the recommendations but depending on budget you can be limited. Started a new game with man United just for a easy mess about save. I bought an amc that does meet recommendations and played lukaku along side.
At Christmas there stats and more importantly goals are almost a perfect match. I think whereas the amc based on reccomendations play's as TFF intended (sexy football) there is a lot to be said for a battering ram also.
Saying that I've switched to jonnysnipes tactic 2 posts up now and I think it's taken tffs original up a notch
 
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quickzombie said:
I tend to follow the recommendations but depending on budget you can be limited. Started a new game with man United just for a easy mess about save. I bought an amc that does meet recommendations and played lukaku along side.
At Christmas there stats and more importantly goals are almost a perfect match. I think whereas the amc based on reccomendations play's as TFF intended (sexy football) there is a lot to be said for a battering ram also.
Saying that I've switched to jonnysnipes tactic 2 posts up now and I think it's taken tffs original up a notch
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let me know your results I'm getting mixed results with Arsenal now!
 
Please can anyone recommend a very good skin for a resolution of 1366 * 768? Very urgent. Thanks.
 
El Wray said:
just use him and see, you could play your nan in amc in this tactic and she would score. ignore pa and ca, its not the be all and end all
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El Wray, you suggest ignoring CA and PA but it would be the same as to suggest ignoring Attributes.

For example, if you see that a player has Finishing, Composure, Concentration and Decisions are equal to “5” then you don’t have to play this player at all in order to tell with full certainty that this player will be missing about 95% of all his scoring chances in matches and if you are going use him at the AMCs positions in this tactic then it will be a bad choice because in this tactic the AMCs positions are supposed to be the main goals scorers.

Other example, if you see that a player has Technique, Passing, Vision and Decisions are equal to “5” then you don’t have to play this player at all in order tell that this player is just awful at making passes and if you are going use him at the AMCs positions in this tactic then it will be a bad choice because in this tactic the AMCs positions are supposed to be the main assisters and make a lot of passes.

In this game Attributes exists in order that a human player might look at them and say what things the player does good and what things the player does bad without the need to play and watch this player for few seasons in order to find out it.

It’s like in real life some person asks: “Hey guys! I’m going to buy a new laptop HP-988, do you think FM17 runs well on it?” and someone answers: “I wouldn’t suggest buying it because this laptop’s got a very slow processor to run FM17” and you say: “For God sake, just buy it, try to run FM17 on it and see it yourself, it might work great!!!”. ;)

In this tactic the AMCs positions are supposed to do specific jobs and Romelu Lukaku is completely not type of player that you need for the AMCs positions in this tactic, he is “Target Man” type and it’s opposite what you need for the AMCs positions in this tactic so buying him would be spending your transfer budget in inefficient way because you can easily find someone more suited to the AMCs positions for that money.



You are right when you say that CA and PA is not be the all and end all, I say the same all the time but it still tells few things for certain:

1) Total amount of Points that Player has to spend on his attributes.
2) His developing potential. Will be he changing much or not in the future.

For example, let’s take 2 players: Player A = 140CA and Player B = 150CA, it might be that Player A is better for the AMCs positions in this tactic than Player B, even that his CA is lower than the CA of Player B… How can it be? As I said above CA is just a total amount of points that a player has to spend on his attributes but his efficiency at the AMCs positions in this tactic depends on the way these points are allocated and it might be that the CA of Player A is allocated in much more efficient way for the AMCs positions than the CA of Player B.

I mention the CA/PA of Romelu Lukaku just to show that this guy is already formed and he won’t be changing in the future, he’ll stay “Target Man” type for the rest of his career so buying him would be spending your money in inefficient way because for that money you can get someone else that is much more suited to the tactic and will be much more efficient.

Romelu Lukaka is a great choice if you need "Target Man" type of attacker and he costs a lot of money due that because when you need “Target Man” type attacker then he is one the best options in the game but for the AMCs positions in this tactic you need a completely opposite type of player so buying him would be like throwing your transfer budget money on wind becasue you will be paying extra money for something that you don't need so you always can buy someone cheaper but more suited for the AMCs positions than Romelu Lukaka.



El Wray said:
everything, EVERYTHING, in life has to have context. from what tff said, it seemed like no matter who you are lukaku is bad
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The context looks pretty clear to me in this case…

djs1 was going to buy Romelu Lukaka and Romelu Lukaka costs crazy amount of money because he is one of the best options in the game if you are looking for a Target Man type attacker but for the AMCs positions in this tactic you need a completely opposite type of player so it means if he bought him then he would pay extra money for something that he don’t need and there are always many other options that are much cheaper and would be much efficient than Romelu Lukaka.
 
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Tried my tweak with Arsenal (I holidayed through FA and capitol one cup so went out early).

I made no transfers at all

Please see below:
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Sanchez playing ST: 42 (17 assists) in 51 (28 goals and 14 assists in league)
Ozil playing RCAM: 17 (21 assists) in 36 (12 goals and 13 assists in league)
Iwobi playing LCAM: 21 (12 assists) in 45 (15 goals and 7 assists in league)
Cazorla playing LCM: 20 (14 assists) in 46 (15 goals and 10 assists in league)
Ramsey playing RCM: 7 (20 assists) in 49 (5 goals and 9 assists in league)
 
jonnysnipe said:
Tried my tweak with Arsenal (I holidayed through FA and capitol one cup so went out early).

I made no transfers at all

Please see below:
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Sanchez playing ST: 42 (17 assists) in 51 (28 goals and 14 assists in league)
Ozil playing RCAM: 17 (21 assists) in 36 (12 goals and 13 assists in league)
Iwobi playing LCAM: 21 (12 assists) in 45 (15 goals and 7 assists in league)
Cazorla playing LCM: 20 (14 assists) in 46 (15 goals and 10 assists in league)
Ramsey playing RCM: 7 (20 assists) in 49 (5 goals and 9 assists in league)
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Is that the one in post 2032?
 
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