Denial - La Liga Champions and Champions League Final - Sevilla FC

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bentheposh said:
This tactic is fantastic. I use this version and an attacking and counter version. Attacking version I just change the mentality and the CFs to CFa and the counter version has a few defensive tweaks, like changing the WBa to FBs, to tighten up and see games out.

Good job.
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Mate can upload these attack and counter tactics? Trying original one and not working for me wit man united on away games! Im start loosing my head :)
 
Wigo15 said:
well this is my probably 7 or 8 tactic which i'm tryin on fm16 and NONE of them working! As this one i test them all with manchester United.At home its ok, always get win or draw but huge problems when we play Away! ive start with original Denial tactic and lost away to arsenal 5:0 and capital one cup away game to westbrom 6:1! both games shots was around 15:1 to the opposite team! then changed wing backs to full backs and put one of Middfielders to DM and change mentality to counter... aaaaaaaand Nothing! still losing about 90% of away games... no red cards by the way just average of 4 yellows every game... any ideas?
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This shouldn't be happening mate, can I see your line up?
 
macca72 said:
Played some games with this last night and so far by streets the best tactic I have seen for FM16.

I've tweaked a couple of roles to suit my players (DLP to BWM and CF to DLF), and will continue to play around with the players I have at my disposal, but overall a fantastic effort. Thanks.
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Cheers mate! Changing the striker is fine but I would be wary with changing the DLP as hes the only player not pushing up and pressing, BWM would press to much and may leave you open.
 
poweriess said:
Glads it working mate! do you have any screenshots? Also could try remove work ball into box, add much higher tempo and change mentality to attacking - should work, let me know how it does.
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poweriess said:
This shouldn't be happening mate, can I see your line up?
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Sorry for not showing screen shot, but i always start with first transfer window disabled so first season line with exact your tactic is:

Gk de gea
Rb darmian
Lb shaw
Cd jones
Cd smalling
Mc schweinsteiger
Mc herrera
Mc shneiderlin
Amr mata
Aml depay
Cf rooney

Have no idea whats happening... training balanced with fokus attacking movement or tryied what assistant recommend for example def positioning on away games (average) due to the intense schedule rest before and after game... individual training is player positions...
 
Wigo15 said:
Sorry for not showing screen shot, but i always start with first transfer window disabled so first season line with exact your tactic is:

Gk de gea
Rb darmian
Lb shaw
Cd jones
Cd smalling
Mc schweinsteiger
Mc herrera
Mc shneiderlin
Amr mata
Aml depay
Cf rooney

Have no idea whats happening... training balanced with fokus attacking movement or tryied what assistant recommend for example def positioning on away games (average) due to the intense schedule rest before and after game... individual training is player positions...
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Should work wonders with the default Man Utd team, you have fast defenders so you can execute the offside trap, solid midfield and a good attack. How Fluid is the tactic?
 
poweriess said:
Should work wonders with the default Man Utd team, you have fast defenders so you can execute the offside trap, solid midfield and a good attack. How Fluid is the tactic?
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First time i changed to Denial after 7 first games of the season (before used 4-2-3-1) so tactic was acomplished and then after 5 games became fluid but still not work on away... now i just start a new game from beginning and try again with united.i will use your default tactic not gonna change a thing couse players suits tactic perfectly and post results again
 
Wigo15 said:
First time i changed to Denial after 7 first games of the season (before used 4-2-3-1) so tactic was acomplished and then after 5 games became fluid but still not work on away... now i just start a new game from beginning and try again with united.i will use your default tactic not gonna change a thing couse players suits tactic perfectly and post results again
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Okay mate, hopefully it works
 
poweriess said:
Glads it working mate! do you have any screenshots? Also could try remove work ball into box, add much higher tempo and change mentality to attacking - should work, let me know how it does.
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Ok mate, this is what i have found out based on your reply. When i am chasing a goal or enter the second half with a draw i do this following and 5 out of 5 times i tried it, it has worked.

Mentality to attacking. Much higher tempo. More varied passing play and remove work into box. That is what is working wonders for me at the moment. Hope it helps
 
Trajanus said:
Ok mate, this is what i have found out based on your reply. When i am chasing a goal or enter the second half with a draw i do this following and 5 out of 5 times i tried it, it has worked.

Mentality to attacking. Much higher tempo. More varied passing play and remove work into box. That is what is working wonders for me at the moment. Hope it helps
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What results have you had mate? and Im gonna try create a counter tactic for underdogs and finishing out a game.
 
Well i used it in 6 games in a row now when i enter second half 0 - 0. The results are as following

Liverpool - Newcastle: 3-1
Liverpool - Aston Villa: 1-0
Liverpool - Villareal: 2-0
Liverpool - Swasea: 3-0
Liverpool Villareal: 1-0

Its not magic by any means but what the ****, at least i win :P
 
poweriess said:
Cheers mate! Changing the striker is fine but I would be wary with changing the DLP as hes the only player not pushing up and pressing, BWM would press to much and may leave you open.
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What roles could suit the striker beside CF?
Playing a lower league team, hard to find a decent CF :/
 
poweriess said:
Okay mate, hopefully it works
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Well.... i put giggs manage friendly games and he won 4/5 and then i began the season:
West brom 1:1 man united
Man united 4:1 sunderland
Sporting 2:0 man united
Tottenham 2:5 man united

Tactic still accomplished, but very mixed results at the moment.if not a win the last game i probably say tactic not working away but ill give it a go for next 10 games and show how is it going ;)
 
Naaaaahhhh thats it im done...

Man u 3:0 sporting
Man u 1:1 liverpool
Bournemouth 3:3 man united (was losing 3:1)
Man utd 2:2 paris sg (was winning 2:0)
Man utd 4:0 watford
Aston villa 1:1 man utd (win after penaltys)
Chelsea 1:0 man united
Ajax 2:1 man united

0% win on away, always conceded first... definetely need to fix away tactic!!!
 
Great tactic for me, with a few tweaks. I've been trying to create an effective 4-1-2-3 tactic that gives me good control of the game against a variety of opponents and formations, home and away. I dropped the DLP to the DM position and the HB role to give us balance defensively with the attacking fullbacks.

The tactic is brilliant with its diagonal play and running behind the defense. Thumbs up!
 
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