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I can see where you're coming from but that happens in real life games too. It could just be a goal that's come against the run of play on a counter attack or a set piece or something.
General Consensus - Match Engine *****?
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Oh then I misinterpreted. I haven't seen that happen myself, only rebounds off the keeper.
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The match engine is a big step forwards in my opinon. It feels much more organic than it used to,and the physics seem a lot better as well. Sure it has some flaws,but once you figure out how to build your tactics with the new system,it should be fine.
Needed to take 40 shots to score 4 goals. LOL. Something is really weird. Out of those 40 shots only 10 were on target. I think the accuracy of shooters is just really bad right now so you need super inflated shot attempts/CC in order to even have a normal score game. Which is just not how it should work. What's defense? Tactic almost doesn't seem to matter!
Well, since you seem to be the Tactical Guru, maybe you should try and offer some advice to those in need, instead of being a complete ****.
And don't just say, "Oh they're just set in their ways." If you think you're so much better than them, force them to let you help them.
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I set-up a tactic for my players to press & close down like rottweiler's on crack. Instead, it's like re-watching Chelsea vs. Barcelona. There's just no closing down whatsoever, unless you can call walking very slowly up to a player closing down.
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Follow up. The above game wasn't a fluke. Just played against Chelsea. Had 17 shots on target and only TWO went in! What in the world?? This match engine is messed up! Screenshot follows:![URL]](http://[URL]http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab312/goraiden/EnglishPremierDivision_MatchesMatchesampResults.png[/URL])
How many of those shots were long-shots?
I get no where near as many shots in my games,I usually get around 10-12 shots and 6-7 of them on goal.
What really matters is CCCs and if you only get loads of shots it's your tactic that needs tweaking.
I think it's the match engine mate. 20-40 shots per team is COMMONPLACE so far for me. And of the shots ON target about 10% go in. I think the problem is that the match engine generates too many shots, and the developers had to nerf the accuracy of the shooting so it wouldn't be goalfest. But it makes the game unrealistic. A higher percentage of shots should go in, but it should be much harder to even get off a shot in the first place. I think defense is broken so for now the shot accuracy nerf is a crutch to keep scores from going out of control.
I dont agree this fm 2014 is the worst ever, to me the first week of fm 2013 released was a chaos but then im pretty sure everyone enjoying it now. I have my up and down moment in the game(fm 2014) as Liverpool. Patience is all i need and less stress like before.
I understand your frustration. i lost 3-2 at home to Southampton with Liverpool. They only had 3 shots total and i conceded from set pieces, penalty and an own goal. I can say there is no consistency in my team atm, sometimes they can easily score 5 goals, and then unable to score 1 goal against the other lesser opposition especially at home.
Agreed. Very Frustrating right now! I can understand losing to powerhouse teams. But I almost lost to the 20th ranked relegation sniffing team when my starting side are like all 3-4 star players. And can anyone explain why stoke plays so well when all they have is tallest avg height/weight. Their best couple of players are 3 stars and most of them are in the 1.5 to 2.5 star range!
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I think it's better than the FM13 match engine was at this stage but...the FM14 match engine really needs some tuning to say the least, I've experienced alot of the problems others have listed so I won't go into that much detail.
But I think there is more potential in the FM14 match engine at this stage than there ever was in the final version of the FM13 match engine.
I too am very frustrated by it overall however, but that is not to say success is impossible as others have shared and proven...just got to keep plugging away at it.
But I think there is more potential in the FM14 match engine at this stage than there ever was in the final version of the FM13 match engine.
I too am very frustrated by it overall however, but that is not to say success is impossible as others have shared and proven...just got to keep plugging away at it.
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Complete opposite to this, I dont win every game & every competition and I enjoy the game for the challenge and working on tatics and roles and seeing them work in match. This match engine does not seem to work in this way making it pointless spending time on tactics and therefore pointless playing the game.
I realize to be good at this game you should have to be patient and have at least a little tactical knowledge but that does not seem to matter on FM14.
Tony Fallows from SI QA at the official forums posted the following regarding the current ME which is of interest to this thread...
"Dealing with the issues:
1) Poor defending - we're aware of defender's failing to put a foot in often, instead they jockey lots. We're working on a fix for this, but it's complicated by the fact that our tackle stats are already too high compared to reality. We're working on improving block shots and jockeying to force attackers back. In these instances we now only really need the very worst examples of this uploaded as PKMs with times too.
2) Shooting from daft angles - Also something we're aware of and working on. In these cases we need as many examples as possible. Januzaj's one from fruitavelli was a good example.
3) Buying a corner/throw in off legs of defender - Again, we're aware that this may be overused in matches. Any examples would be appreciated.
4) Low corners to near post - A known issue and one we're working on. No further examples of this are needed.
5) keeper distribution - This is a tricky one because in certain circumstances the goalkeeper will distribute as intended. What we need here is PKMs and timed examples of when a goalie is ignoring his instructions."
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"the main thing we're missing is the physical battles that real life defending involves. Easing players off the ball with a shoulder challenge and so on. We're working on this constantly.
We are aware of issues with shooting. We believe finishing of simple chances may need improving, but this will have to be counterbalanced so as not to overload the ME with too many goals."
http://community.sigames.com/showth...rossing-passing-shooting-finishing-defending.
For what it's worth I'm really enjoying the ME and the moves my team puts together. There are some niggles but I'm confident SI will work it out and there's nothing big enough to really get my panties in a twist.
"Dealing with the issues:
1) Poor defending - we're aware of defender's failing to put a foot in often, instead they jockey lots. We're working on a fix for this, but it's complicated by the fact that our tackle stats are already too high compared to reality. We're working on improving block shots and jockeying to force attackers back. In these instances we now only really need the very worst examples of this uploaded as PKMs with times too.
2) Shooting from daft angles - Also something we're aware of and working on. In these cases we need as many examples as possible. Januzaj's one from fruitavelli was a good example.
3) Buying a corner/throw in off legs of defender - Again, we're aware that this may be overused in matches. Any examples would be appreciated.
4) Low corners to near post - A known issue and one we're working on. No further examples of this are needed.
5) keeper distribution - This is a tricky one because in certain circumstances the goalkeeper will distribute as intended. What we need here is PKMs and timed examples of when a goalie is ignoring his instructions."
and also
"the main thing we're missing is the physical battles that real life defending involves. Easing players off the ball with a shoulder challenge and so on. We're working on this constantly.
We are aware of issues with shooting. We believe finishing of simple chances may need improving, but this will have to be counterbalanced so as not to overload the ME with too many goals."
http://community.sigames.com/showth...rossing-passing-shooting-finishing-defending.
For what it's worth I'm really enjoying the ME and the moves my team puts together. There are some niggles but I'm confident SI will work it out and there's nothing big enough to really get my panties in a twist.
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Then I wonder why people have so different experiences with FM14 and the engine.
My team plays exactly the way I want them to play and I am having great success with it. Sure it has taken a lot of tweaking and adjusting tactics to one that fits my players,but it is possible.
How come some people get 40 shots on goal,but I have never seen more than max 20 total from any team in my games? And those 20 shots are usually against big teams who hammer me with everything they have.
Even my full-backs are performing really well now,both in attack and defense,after some tweaking of my tactics.
So I think it's cheap to just blame the match engine as I'm certain there's a tactical aspect that people haven't figured out yet,because of the new system with roles.
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