Gump's Barca style of play 4-2-3-1

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Hassle Opponents and Push Higher Up
proposes to match the beginning of the first half (10-15 min) and similarly in the second half.
Long-term use of these commands makes the players (especially Those responsible for the defense) too often withdraw from chic giving too much space to attack the enemy quickly fighters. Another thing is our players tired awfully quickly

Retain Possession
works well when we score goal and the opponent moves forward. A great guide to somewhat survive attacks
 
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why? ;(;(;(

I do not know why but I win a lot of matches but only the results of 1:0 or a lot of draws. Torres and all my other striker is doing embarrassingly. in general there is too small center in the penalty area and a few shots from a distance. This can somehow improve?
 
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kenio said:
I do not know what happened but something is stuck in your v1 after 20 matches.

Future matches when I could barely score even one goal.
Tied with Sunderland, Wingan and Burnley (fortunately they were cup matches).

Did my opponent as quickly worked out the tactics?
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Well ur team might be suffering from overconfidence? THe players get lazy etc, U need to do proper Team talk to avoid them being complacent.

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kenio said:
Hassle Opponents and Push Higher Up
proposes to match the beginning of the first half (10-15 min) and similarly in the second half.
Long-term use of these commands makes the players (especially Those responsible for the defense) too often withdraw from chic giving too much space to attack the enemy quickly fighters. Another thing is our players tired awfully quickly

Retain Possession

works well when we score goal and the opponent moves forward. A great guide to somewhat survive attacks
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Lol, My players dont ever get tired lol, 60 - 80% is the usual amount. Hassle Opponents causes U to give em moar pressure, but it might lead to fouls etc. Push Higher Up will get em higher in the pitch and I'd say thats not true that they give space to enemy attackers.

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why? ;(;(;(

I do not know why but I win a lot of matches but only the results of 1:0 or a lot of draws. Torres and all my other striker is doing embarrassingly. in general there is too small center in the penalty area and a few shots from a distance. This can somehow improve?[/QUOTE]

Are U using which version? Have ya put proper Match Prep, Opposition Instructions and touchline shouts??
If U R using v2, then its helluva odd as It shud have fixed the offensive problem and at least, has done it for me. Beat Werder Bremen on CL Group stage 5 - 0, in both games. Won Real 2 - 1, Sporting CP 5 - 0 , Sevilla 2 - 0 to name a few. Ive lost 1 game in League & drawed 1. Also I have made 44 Goals and conceded 6 in the league in 17 games. So either U have forgot to do something or perhaps U have accidentally put sum settings differently... But lets see...
 
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Gump

does not agree with you played a double game with Everton: the same composition, the same motivational interviewing etc.

Differences in the touchline:
One of: Hassle Opponents and Push Higher Up, Retain Possession, ball in the box

Second: Retain Possession, ball in the box

In the first case won 4:3 3 but the opponent had 4 ccc, and many other dangerous shots and I was 5 ccc's

In the second case dominated the opponent won 4-1. The only goal for Everton is a shot from 30 yards I had 6 ccc's opponent 0
Everton gave me 6 shots on goal.
 
kenio said:
Gump

does not agree with you played a double game with Everton: the same composition, the same motivational interviewing etc.

Differences in the touchline:
One of: Hassle Opponents and Push Higher Up, Retain Possession, ball in the box

Second: Retain Possession, ball in the box

In the first case won 4:3 3 but the opponent had 4 ccc, and many other dangerous shots and I was 5 ccc's

In the second case dominated the opponent won 4-1. The only goal for Everton is a shot from 30 yards I had 6 ccc's opponent 0
Everton gave me 6 shots on goal.
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not bad but shouts shud depent much from the opponent U play vs. I find them all working vs any team with my Barca team, but with some teams U dont need em all to get the right score. Its up to U, but those 4 are the ones from which U shud pick what to choose. U can always do sum experiments tho.
 
Well I tested with those 2 shouts, Retain poss & Work ball into box and won Real 2 - 0 (4-1 on aggregate, Spanish Cup Qtr). Worked good and I think that vs the harder teams, U gotta put Hassle Opponents & Push Higher Up off. :)

Good job with bringing this info to me Kenio.

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to v2 or v1 U made these tweaks?

And I think I know what ya did, the same I did with Blackburn once.
And U got to the Penalties, not hard to ge tlots of passes with a possession based tactic..

U put sum mentalities to defensive, tempo slowest and Time Wasting often, thats for sure and then probably restricted the AMC's and ST's Run With ball to rarely.

Thats what U get with that kind of tactic. Ive got over 100 Passes with basic v2 and basic v1.
 
to v1 i made the tweaks..but is a very weak tactic ..i got possesion but i dont score..i made it to a 4-4-2 tactic with 2 wingers on attack..
 
Well U can get over 100 Passes, but not often, but its moar offensive than v1..
Just remember the right shouts, either Retain Poss & Work Ball into Box (for harder teams) or Retain poss, Work Ball into Box, Hassle Opponents & Push Higher Up (For weaker teams)
 
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