Great idea, I'll try!
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Great idea, I'll try!
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take the challenge of creating a 2.4.4 that scores 14 goals every now and then 
Just wondering did you ever try and create this tactic, would be interesting to use in Football Manager. The set up could be a Goalkeeper, Sweeper, 2 Centre Backs, 2 Defensive Midfielders, a Central Midfielder, 2 Attacking Wingers, 2 attacking midfield centres.
I did try.. What happened was you'd make a lot of chances outside the box and hold a lot of possession, but then have no one in the box to give it to.
Ah I see, yeah it's really difficult to make! Have you got any other unusual tactics lined up?
I've been writing my dissertation for my degree for the last while, so been busy. But I will start making tactics and playing FM again in about 2 or 3 weeks time.
Been thinking a lot about the future of tactics. Think 3-4-3's and variations of that will become prominent soon, they are in italy. And Wigan in the EPL play like that.
quick question not in topic with anything else?how do you balance FM and Uni and life in general,just started off with Uni.Cant seem to get a balance,failing in my courses.And I was really good at studies till now,well it was just the year end exam before which I would stop life and FM and just study,can't do that in Uni,advice would be helpful.Sorry for the whole out of topic question.
I'm using a 3-6-1 (3-2-1-3-1) pretty successfully. The striker plays with a support duty, and probably isn't essential for the attack (he's rarely the scorer, but does get assists), but I reckon the problem would come during transitions, as he typically drifts into space on the wing to give an early outlet from interceptions/tackles, holding on the wing until the team push into space for the attack, then releasing to the central players. If I could come up with a way to replicate this kind of off-the-ball mobility then I reckon I might be able to get a 3-7-0 working.
Wait until you've got your degree, got your career going, and had kids. They'll keep you stuck at home every evening with nothing better to do than play FM while they sleep. Seriously though, it's kind of easy with a job and kids as they leave nothing to choice - it's not like I really choose between going to work and playing FM, or choose between looking after my kids and playing FM. It's just obvious to me that my work and my kids aren't an option for me to screw up, so my FM time comes after I've dealt with that.
Now you could decide that your studies aren't an option for you to screw up, and get those done before you play FM. You could get used to 9-6 hours (it'll happen soon enough, believe me) by allocating that time to your uni work. A solid 40 hours a week should see you do well enough. Give yourself a couple of hours for exercise, dinner, friends, music, whatever, then you can sit down at 8:30 and play FM for a solid 3 hours a night if thats what you want, weekends too.
If the above example makes sense, you'll see that it's all about time management. It's pretty likely that your Uni will have the resources to help with that (and be pretty understanding that it can be a struggle - you're certainly not the first student to have difficulty with it). Check with your student support dept and see what they can do to help - this kind of stuff is easier to start with a little backup, but once you've started it'll soon become habitual.
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Would anyone be interested if I uploaded the tactic from my Milan story? 1 Defender but still seems to be really good (Two losses so far by around marach first season)
It's just I like the tactic and it makes for interesting matches, I just dont have time to do a full season or 2 too see its potential. Anyone want to test it? (it would be for TOP TOP teams only I imagine...)
It's just I like the tactic and it makes for interesting matches, I just dont have time to do a full season or 2 too see its potential. Anyone want to test it? (it would be for TOP TOP teams only I imagine...)
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Would anyone be interested if I uploaded the tactic from my Milan story? 1 Defender but still seems to be really good (Two losses so far by around marach first season)
It's just I like the tactic and it makes for interesting matches, I just dont have time to do a full season or 2 too see its potential. Anyone want to test it? (it would be for TOP TOP teams only I imagine...)
I would like to test it....
My Beta tactic...
So, I've always loved making tactics on FM and making bizarre ones at that, rarely they work, but very occasionally you make a gem, and I think I've just shat a diamond. It needs longer testing but after half a season it's looking promising.
The main inspiration was to build a tactic based on the best positions/roles of my best 11 players, here is my Frankenstein:View attachment 245066
Here is my penultimate result:
View attachment 245067
And this was my last result, notice Phil Jones, I made no alterations after that, just left the tactic to it, with the score at that point being 0-2. Amazingly the amount of time that the midfield held the ball and the way the team defended as a unit with the anchor and the lone right defensive winger making a back 4 they scored once.
View attachment 245068
It is working a charm having that extra man in midfield, it should leave me exposed on the right but with Howedes set to hug touchline he does brilliantly, it amazes me this works considering my failed efforts with a 3 man defense previously.
Obviously this tactic relies heavily on the lone right winger, but I have tested this with S. Vrsalijko (defensive minded) and E. Hazard (Attacking minded) and it still works, Victor (regen) scored once and assisted twice vs. QPR.
hope you like.
So, I've always loved making tactics on FM and making bizarre ones at that, rarely they work, but very occasionally you make a gem, and I think I've just shat a diamond. It needs longer testing but after half a season it's looking promising.
The main inspiration was to build a tactic based on the best positions/roles of my best 11 players, here is my Frankenstein:View attachment 245066
Here is my penultimate result:
View attachment 245067
And this was my last result, notice Phil Jones, I made no alterations after that, just left the tactic to it, with the score at that point being 0-2. Amazingly the amount of time that the midfield held the ball and the way the team defended as a unit with the anchor and the lone right defensive winger making a back 4 they scored once.
View attachment 245068
It is working a charm having that extra man in midfield, it should leave me exposed on the right but with Howedes set to hug touchline he does brilliantly, it amazes me this works considering my failed efforts with a 3 man defense previously.
Obviously this tactic relies heavily on the lone right winger, but I have tested this with S. Vrsalijko (defensive minded) and E. Hazard (Attacking minded) and it still works, Victor (regen) scored once and assisted twice vs. QPR.
hope you like.
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I tried to be innovative with a tactic i released..... some people just looked at it and said 'that not innovative', but i dont think they read the full description.
Also no one ever actually gave me any real feedback for it, good or bad
Heres the link anyway if anyones interested....http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...ning/94667-idea-%96-very-uncommon-tactic.html
Also no one ever actually gave me any real feedback for it, good or bad
Heres the link anyway if anyones interested....http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/foot...ning/94667-idea-%96-very-uncommon-tactic.html
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Oh, I am very very interested for I am trying to build a catenaccio tactic myself but without success yet.
Please post it and I will test it when finding the time after the EURO ^^)
I'll post it here in a few hours so you can test a bit (and anyone else) and eventually will make its own thread.
View attachment 255979 (Picture of the formation used by 'Il Grande Inter- The Great Inter)
[video=youtube;Wiemy-q2prQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Wiemy-q2prQ[/video]
(Video of Inter beating Benfica in the 1965 European cup final, reason for playing being slow is a water logged pitch)
Catenaccio predicated itself on always having a spare man in defense. It accomplished this by using man-marking; each Inter player knew who he was meant to be keeping tabs on in his half of the field. The spare man was the sweeper.
View attachment 255985
Important roles or unusal roles in the system:
Libero (sweeper): Plays behind the two central defenders, sweeping up any balls or players who get through the defensive wall.
View attachment 255997
Left Fullback: Under Herrera Inter's left full back Fachetti was very attacking, and added a positive outlet that other Italian sides who practiced Catenaccio did not.
View attachment 255998
Regista (Deep Lying Play-Maker): The main playmaker of the side.View attachment 255999Tornante (Here the Wing Back on the right hand Side): Expected to cover the whole of the right side, in attack and defence.
View attachment 256000
Results:
View attachment 256001
Grande Inter.tac
[video=youtube;Wiemy-q2prQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Wiemy-q2prQ[/video]
(Video of Inter beating Benfica in the 1965 European cup final, reason for playing being slow is a water logged pitch)
Catenaccio predicated itself on always having a spare man in defense. It accomplished this by using man-marking; each Inter player knew who he was meant to be keeping tabs on in his half of the field. The spare man was the sweeper.
View attachment 255985
Important roles or unusal roles in the system:
Libero (sweeper): Plays behind the two central defenders, sweeping up any balls or players who get through the defensive wall.
View attachment 255997
Left Fullback: Under Herrera Inter's left full back Fachetti was very attacking, and added a positive outlet that other Italian sides who practiced Catenaccio did not.
View attachment 255998
Regista (Deep Lying Play-Maker): The main playmaker of the side.View attachment 255999Tornante (Here the Wing Back on the right hand Side): Expected to cover the whole of the right side, in attack and defence.
View attachment 256000
Results:
View attachment 256001
Grande Inter.tac
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I have tried for months the 4-6-0 and it just does not work in FM. You will end up scorring very rarely. They key is to have good goal scorring wingers/inside forwards, however if you would like to recreat Roma you should somehow make The Totti role score... which is again impossible.
The best I have done is to score 15 with Totti and 17 with Suggurdson (who is a Totti like as far as it goes for long shots and set pieces). Basically recreating Roma is the hardest part, you might be able to make a 4-6-0 system and get to 1st place with a fairly strong team, but then the results will not be impressive