Jonathan Wilson: Premier League title far from a formality for early leader Chelsea

[CJACKO11]

Our youth acadamy is great at the moment and this lad has gone from the youth team stright to the First team, totaly skipped the reserves. From what i have seen so far i have no douts about the lad at all. And i dout im not the only one that thinks Berba isen't Utd class, even my cousin who is and always has been a Utd fan is still on the fence about the lad.

---------- Post added at 08:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:45 PM ----------


I wouldn't say were acadamy is great at the moment as hardley any of them have broken into your team and that player mceachren (sp). How can people be raving on about how good his is when he's made a few substitute apperances

Its not just McEachran who has broken through you got Van Aanholt, Bruma and Borini all have made first team appearences.

And you lost 4-3... Real game changer that.

If you watched the full 90 minutes you would have seen it and even Newcastle fans said he bossed the game when he came on.

I didn't say because we had most of the ball we should have won, I said we bossed the game and you didn't have that many chances of note (only 2 really stick out in my haed). You're a typical Chelsea fan, claiming it's your tactic to only play on the counter, when most of the time your just forced into playing that tactic. What kind of Champions play defensive and look for the counter at home? I'm sure the game did not go as Ancellotti planned but he was probably happy with the 3 points.

You seemed to have conveniently glossed over my definition of the phrase "that good". I said by "that good" I meant good enough for you to be brimming with confidence that you will go on to win the league from such an early stage. I have to say that your analysis of your team is more or less correct, you have a good side, but not that good.

The last paragraph is ridiculous, it's shockingly obvious that if Chelsea lose Drogba, they're nearly a completely different side.

No we play the tactic that gives us the best chance of beating the team we are playing at that time. AND WHERE DID I SAY WE WOULD WIN THE LEAGUE EARLY!!!!!

Also your last point on missing Drogba is also massivly false. African Nations last season.... When Drogba is out we have the players to change our system and Anelka scores majority of our goals.

---------- Post added at 09:54 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:47 AM ----------

he has 6 in 8 league games, same striker rate as drogba. the fact is he and scholes have been the creative heartbeat of the side, we have stayed in touch largely because of those two, if he is key to us, how can he not be united quality?

"United quality"is an abstract term which i assume you are assuming means good enough toplay well for united.... which he has been doing

And Berbatov has 7 goals in 11 appearences in all comps. I don't think he does enough for the side thats my opinion and i know people feel the same way also.

 

[sunilvk7]

I'm well aware your first-choice XI wasn't playing that game either.

Doesn't change the point I was making. Your post about it being their strongest team was wrong, and I've proven it so. End.

Whatever floats your boat.

---------- Post added at 09:31 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:28 AM ----------

And Berbatov has 7 goals in 11 appearences in all comps. I don't think he does enough for the side thats my opinion and i know people feel the same way also.

How do you know people feel the same way as you do? Like i said you got no idea about Berba and how he is playing this season.

 

[philly]

Its not just McEachran who has broken through you got Van Aanholt, Bruma and Borini all have made first team appearences.

And how many apperances have they actually had?
One or two is hardly breaking into the frist team.

 

[CJACKO11]

And how many apperances have they actually had?
One or two is hardly breaking into the frist team.

McEachran has made 7 appearences. Look Ancelotti has faith in these young lads and thats why they are squad players. I never said they were already first team guarrentees because they are back-up players, they have taken the places of Belletti, Ballack, Deco and even Joe Cole.

---------- Post added at 10:55 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:49 AM ----------

Whatever floats your boat.

---------- Post added at 09:31 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:28 AM ----------



How do you know people feel the same way as you do? Like i said you got no idea about Berba and how he is playing this season.

Well even a Utd fan on here said he dosen't think he does enough and like i said i also know someone who thinks the same. I watch every game whether its Chelsea, Utd or River Plate, i totaly understand why you would back him even if you thought he was playing poor but this is just my opinion and i know im not on my own.

 

[philly]

McEachran has made 7 appearences. Look Ancelotti has faith in these young lads and thats why they are squad players. I never said they were already first team guarrentees because they are back-up players, they have taken the places of Belletti, Ballack, Deco and even Joe Cole.

I was more talking about the other 3 you named.....

 

[sunilvk7]

Well even a Utd fan on here said he dosen't think he does enough and like i said i also know someone who thinks the same. I watch every game whether its Chelsea, Utd or River Plate, i totaly understand why you would back him even if you thought he was playing poor but this is just my opinion and i know im not on my own.

he is palying excellently. So one person said, you posted everyone thinks the same. But i think Me, Madsheep, Scott and Many United supporters didnt agree with you. So how is everyone agreeing with you.

 

[CJACKO11]

he is palying excellently. So one person said, you posted everyone thinks the same. But i think Me, Madsheep, Scott and Many United supporters didnt agree with you. So how is everyone agreeing with you.

Where did i say everyone agrees with me??

---------- Post added at 11:12 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:08 AM ----------

I was more talking about the other 3 you named.....

Van Aanholt has made 3 appearences this season which isen't bad considering we have Cole. Bruma has made 2 appearences plus has been out with an injury. Borini made 8 appearences last season and has only just come back from a injury. Look i never said they were first team starters but they are our back-up players and we are slowly giving them first team expirience.

 

[Mike.]

Where did i say everyone agrees with me??

---------- Post added at 11:12 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:08 AM ----------



Van Aanholt has made 3 appearences this season which isen't bad considering we have Cole. Bruma has made 2 appearences plus has been out with an injury. Borini made 8 appearences last season and has only just come back from a injury. Look i never said they were first team starters but they are our back-up players and we are slowly giving them first team expirience.

yes you are entitled to your opinion, but when the evidence points to the contrary, your opinion becomes nonsense. his all round play and goals have been key to united, therefore your opinon that he isnt doing enough is nonsense. he has been one of our standout players, therefore your opinon that he is not good enough for united is nonsense, pure and simple.

Fuelledbypassion, i Think the next 4 or 5 will make or break the like of west ham and wigan, they are confidence sides, a good run would boost them, a bad run could really see them fall apart

 

[dasty]

In accordance to CJACKO11,
Berbatov = Not Man Utd class
McEachran = Proving his class and game changer for Chelsea
Chelsea > Man Utd
Therefore McEachran >>>>> Berbatov

Wow, I'm at a loss of words.

 

[CJACKO11]

In accordance to CJACKO11,
Berbatov = Not Man Utd class
McEachran = Proving his class and game changer for Chelsea
Chelsea > Man Utd
Therefore McEachran >>>>> Berbatov

Wow, I'm at a loss of words.

Yer because your logic works and i said McEachran is a better footballer than Berbatov did i???

 

[dasty]

You never directly said that McEachran is better, but those are things that you have said. You kept on insisting that Berbatov is not Man Utd quality even though everyone had been disagreeing with you and then went on and says that McEachran could change the flow of every game he played in. And I don't have to really point out which post of yours specified that Chelsea is better than Man Utd since you've been so confident in your Chelsea's capability to run away with the title.

"My belief it that Berbatov isen't Utd class nothing wrong with that, also every game he has featured in McEachran has changed the flow of the game, this lad is special." << What you've said.

Maybe I've misunderstood what you've said, but to me someone that could change the flow of every game he played in means someone that is so influential whenever he steps onto the field that he can change the outcome of the game by his own brilliance. And if Berbatov is not Utd class then it basically means that Berbatov won't be able to change the outcome of a game by himself and therefore inferior to McEachran. If that's not what you mean then I apologize.

 

[sunilvk7]

Where did i say everyone agrees with me??



QUOTE]

don't think he does enough for the side thats my opinion and i know people feel the same way also.

 

[Scott]

Lads just forget about his views, Next he will be saying Nani is not good enough for united. His statements are just his awful attempt at trying to troll, If he wants lesson, I charge a reasonable rate you know.

 

[fuelledbypassion]

Well, considering he clearly meant in regards to footballing years, i.e. August > May, then a year is the 'best part of' (which means majority of) 2 years (read: 2 seasons).

Don't footballers usually have about 4 - 6 weeks off a year? He can still train during pre-season can't he? I think Essien is back to his best physically, and performance wise he's not far off either

 

[CJACKO11]

Where did i say everyone agrees with me??



QUOTE]

i said i know people who agree with me not everyone there is a massive difference.

---------- Post added at 09:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:11 PM ----------

Lads just forget about his views, Next he will be saying Nani is not good enough for united. His statements are just his awful attempt at trying to troll, If he wants lesson, I charge a reasonable rate you know.

Why because i have a different view to people im so called trolling??? Man up.

 

[Scott]

i said i know people who agree with me not everyone there is a massive difference.

---------- Post added at 09:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:11 PM ----------



Why because i have a different view to people im so called trolling??? Man up.

Man Up? Srsly what the **** does that mean? I need to man up, because your either a moron or a troll.

As i said, you may need lesson.

 

[sunilvk7]

i said i know people who agree with me not everyone there is a massive difference.

---------- Post added at 09:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:11 PM ----------



Why because i have a different view to people im so called trolling??? Man up.

Man up for what? For having ridiculous opinion.? Player who is clearly carrying our attack is not enough, by that logic no attacker is good enough for United. Tell me what exactly is United quality? Dont tell me Cantona, Hughes, RVNs, Laws. They are very rare kind of players who just inspires everyone. If we get those kind of players every now and then, then there is no point in calling them special players.

 

[CJACKO11]

Man up for what? For having ridiculous opinion.? Player who is clearly carrying our attack is not enough, by that logic no attacker is good enough for United. Tell me what exactly is United quality? Dont tell me Cantona, Hughes, RVNs, Laws. They are very rare kind of players who just inspires everyone. If we get those kind of players every now and then, then there is no point in calling them special players.

Just my opinion don't forget but for me he dosen't get enough goals and you never see him helping out at the back. For the money you paid for him i just don't think it was worth it.

 

[Scott]

Just my opinion don't forget but for me he dosen't get enough goals and you never see him helping out at the back. For the money you paid for him i just don't think it was worth it.

Have you actually watched united this season, or going by Match of the day comments from 12 months ago. He has helped at the back this season, Against Stoke last week, i counted only 3 set peices he was back defending, out of god knows how many. He does defend, He scored 7 goals this year, which is better then 1 every other game. Which is a good record for any standard. We all say 20 is the mark for a striker to aim for. well he is on course for just above 20 league goals this season. Srsly mate, this is a battle you cannot win.

If i was you, i would just give up.

 

[CJACKO11]

Have you actually watched united this season, or going by Match of the day comments from 12 months ago. He has helped at the back this season, Against Stoke last week, i counted only 3 set peices he was back defending, out of god knows how many. He does defend, He scored 7 goals this year, which is better then 1 every other game. Which is a good record for any standard. We all say 20 is the mark for a striker to aim for. well he is on course for just above 20 league goals this season. Srsly mate, this is a battle you cannot win.

If i was you, i would just give up.

Like i said i know im not the only person that thinks this. You have your opinion fair enough and i have mine.