Laldy Counter and Control Tactics

"I recommend starting off with the Counter High or Control High tactic as a default. Watch the game, and if the opposition's defence is sitting deep then switch to the Counter High or Control High tactic as suits."

Hey buddy, One of them must be deep, right? If the opposition is sitting deep should we use Counter deep or Control deep or is it the other way around?
 
Hector89 said:
"I recommend starting off with the Counter High or Control High tactic as a default. Watch the game, and if the opposition's defence is sitting deep then switch to the Counter High or Control High tactic as suits."

Hey buddy, One of them must be deep, right? If the opposition is sitting deep should we use Counter deep or Control deep or is it the other way around?
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if you are the underdog you use counter versions and deep or high depending on their defensive line (although i'd recommend using the d-line play depending on the scouting report - if they have more assists from the wings push up if they have more assists through the middle play deeper)

use control versions if you come up against equal or weaker teams
 
Thanks for these, a lot to learn from. My current team is probably too attack minded to fit into the formations though.
 
Audioboxer said:
Thanks for these, a lot to learn from. My current team is probably too attack minded to fit into the formations though.
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You'd be surprised. The counter tactics in particular are very attack minded going forward.
 
Looks nice! But how do you see how deep their line is under a game?
 
frankenzzz said:
Looks nice! But how do you see how deep their line is under a game?
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You watch the game either in 2D or 3D. It will become apparent real quick. Some AI sides change mid game. Hence why watching the games is so important.
 
can we see how deep their line is without watch full match ? im using key highlights only so i cant rly understund .
 
xDjiNN21 said:
can we see how deep their line is without watch full match ? im using key highlights only so i cant rly understund .
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If your style of gameplay is to watch it in that way then your best bet is to choose a tactic and hope it works out. Realistically these tactics aren't really suited to your style of play. Not that there is anything wrong with how you play the game, just that these tactics are meant to be used by a more discerning player.
 
can you give some tips on how to observe the d-line? i mean im a veteran FM player, but the ME is so ''fidgety'' it's difficult to observe any regular patterns when it comes to the d-line, it seems all teams push up to the halfway line and go back immediately to their penalty area when i pass through the striker/winger line on the transition. i watch the match on comprehensive too
 
pollackattack said:
can you give some tips on how to observe the d-line? i mean im a veteran FM player, but the ME is so ''fidgety'' it's difficult to observe any regular patterns when it comes to the d-line, it seems all teams push up to the halfway line and go back immediately to their penalty area when i pass through the striker/winger line on the transition. i watch the match on comprehensive too
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It's all visual. A good way is to observe the striker. If he has no space and is practically man marked then you need to use one of the 'high' tactics to get him into areas he can operate in. If the defence is sitting off him way too much, then you can see how the 'deep' tactic works.

You should be able to tell in 2D or 3D if the striker is or isn't getting space to operate in.
 
Chrissy Dude said:
It's all visual. A good way is to observe the striker. If he has no space and is practically man marked then you need to use one of the 'high' tactics to get him into areas he can operate in. If the defence is sitting off him way too much, then you can see how the 'deep' tactic works.

You should be able to tell in 2D or 3D if the striker is or isn't getting space to operate in.
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thanks. what about red card?
 
Just a tought. Maybe the ingame analyse tool, then average position will help. Gives you an idea if you wanna watch games with just key highlight.
 
Ah darn, I was afraid it would end being a completely different formation. Sadly I cannot use this. Was enjoying the old one for having 2 strikers and DM's. I guess I will wait for the next patch and hope for something to come up.
 
tieio said:
Ah darn, I was afraid it would end being a completely different formation. Sadly I cannot use this. Was enjoying the old one for having 2 strikers and DM's. I guess I will wait for the next patch and hope for something to come up.
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Read the two articles by Cleon. You'll be able to make your own tactics thereafter. Trust me, you'll thank me for it.
 
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