Do you think maybe changing the mentality to defensive or counter would solve the problem in hard away games when you're clearly the underdog?
Thanx for posting screenshots. I'm still working on this tactic to see if I can improve it somehow.
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Do you think maybe changing the mentality to defensive or counter would solve the problem in hard away games when you're clearly the underdog?
Thanx for posting screenshots. I'm still working on this tactic to see if I can improve it somehow.
Yes maybe make him a ball winning mid on defend. Lots of options...Havent had time to fool around with the two CMs...just try to not make them playmakers as it will kind of kill the idea of a Libero in my eyes.
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can u post raumdeuter's player instructions?
Yes the wingbacks are a monster in this tactic... especially when the libero plays them through... they beat their man and make a goal-scoring cross. Bellerin won world player of the year 5 times in my save, i thought this was extremely impressive for a right back, was getting 50+ assists in some saves. Also had Luis Henrique score 51 league goals in a season... I know when you have a good team its all possible, but playing with villareal, it is extremely hard to get rich, despite numerous champions league successes so i couldn't afford to change my team much.
Once again, i think this tactic is extremely solid and under-rated...
Thanx! Yes...the wingbacks are key. They need to be fast, good at crosses and dribbles...and thats about it. I mostly play fast wingers as wingbacks. Seems to work better then an overall defensive type of wingback. At least that's what saved my Mallorca team. Was struggling, but then i changed the wingbacks and now we're top of the table.
just in case you are struggling in the defense or in general with results: I'tried this tactic with athletic bilbao and was far from happy with the defense. I've added defensive positioning training for last 3 games of the season and we have won all of them with a score of 7-0!
I even played Iniaki Williams, a really fast striker/inside forward, as right WB. But he has 5 at marking and 7 at tacking, but does not matter (H)
we did manage to finish 3rd thanks to this 3 great results with athletic which is a huge success, I am looking forward to try a season with defensive positioning as training!
THIS tactic is really good work, if you have the right players. I cant say how important the right wing back is
I even played Iniaki Williams, a really fast striker/inside forward, as right WB. But he has 5 at marking and 7 at tacking, but does not matter (H)
we did manage to finish 3rd thanks to this 3 great results with athletic which is a huge success, I am looking forward to try a season with defensive positioning as training!
THIS tactic is really good work, if you have the right players. I cant say how important the right wing back is
I ended up changing the WTM to an IF-S, kicking the second striker to AMR as a RMD and then the lone striker as a False 9. Then put one of the CMs on defend and it's working a treat.
Also, if you have a fast Libero with decent marking and you're playing something like a 4141, have him man mark the striker. It can essentially eliminate them from the game.
Also, if you have a fast Libero with decent marking and you're playing something like a 4141, have him man mark the striker. It can essentially eliminate them from the game.
Interesting. Will give it a go with IF and RD. What are the PIs ?
Can you post a screenshot of your 4-1-4-1 tac ? How do you play the Libero?
I don't play a 4141, I meant if you're playing against a lone striker formation, have the Libero man mark their striker. For the PI, I just left whatever was on the WTM-A and for the RMD I do more risky passes and shoot less.
Ah. Makes sense now.
Thought you had created some hybrid 4141 tactic with a libero. Tried out the inside forward, rmd combo and MC(def). Worked out fine as well.
I've updated the original post with the False9 Version. It scores the highest amount of points in my tests. Feel Free to try it out yourself. Any improvements are welcome.
Here's the screenshot of the tactic. Never mind i'm only 4th in the league - was trying different weird stuff out That didnt work out so well. Anyway the doubleFalse9 version just overachieves even more than the Wide Target and The Raundeuter ones.
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Here's the screenshot of the tactic. Never mind i'm only 4th in the league - was trying different weird stuff out
That didnt work out so well. Anyway the doubleFalse9 version just overachieves even more than the Wide Target and The Raundeuter ones.IView attachment 129899
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http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/shar...ard-kick-match-engine-6-2-0-6-14-matches.html
All you have done is change the Defensive mid to a Libero and then claimed half the credit. No where near being a mixed tactic pal
All you have done is change the Defensive mid to a Libero and then claimed half the credit. No where near being a mixed tactic pal
?? You do realise its not even same formation? This is a wide target man / Libero tactic. Even the central defenders are different from what i can tell.
Looked more into it. The CMs are different as well.
When it comes to tactics we only have so and so many different settings, and trust me some settings just always work, because of the ME being favourable to crossing.
I tend to use offside trap, which that other one doenst have either. Have you even bother tried the tactics?
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Your False 9 version is virtually the same tactic. You use the same match training and opposition instructions also
You do realise that almost every tactic use those match training and opp instructions right? Go look at my other tactics
But with this tactic I initially left it out but another user wrote the tactic improves with def positioning, so i edited the original post. Where you can find three different tactics. I either use no opp instructions or weak foot on every player on the flank.
My initial False9 tactic had a targetman but he just ruins the flow though he gets good ratings. The poacher can be out of a game but still bag in goals, so its a matter of preferences. Tried the advanced forward in a test as well, but he doesnt score as many goals as the poacher.
Its alot of trial and error with tactics...small things can make a huge difference. For instance, in the False9 tactic the left false9 has roam from position while the other one doesnt. Its how you want the flow...he comes deeper while the other false9 stays forward. The right CM is on cover for the very same reason and doesnt have risky passes.. You have to look into details, there is a point to every little PI.
And everyone here knows that if you want to have a possesionbased tactic, then you have to have shoot less for key players, otherwise your tactic will fail due to overload of long shots.
In the same way...the CBs are on cover to sit a bit deeper for when the libero moves forward into pressing or goes forward in possesion.
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Might give it a go. Got an 18 year old defender already natural in sweeper position (and 2 other regens natural) but his problem is that hes 5 foot 7. He's 4.5* potential (this is in a squad where I have world class players current rating at 2*!).
Using him as a DC ball playing at the moment but might train him to be more attacking seeing how poor his jumping for headers is going to be.
Using him as a DC ball playing at the moment but might train him to be more attacking seeing how poor his jumping for headers is going to be.
Literally every tactic uses the same OI & Training, its just the way it is and what works best. They're different tactics